I feel this took too far much planning and setup, homework to be from a "tilt" situation. I also question the target, concert goers are strange targets for a person disgruntled at a casino, game or their downtrodden life in general. Im baffled from what ive seen so far. Manchurian candidate or wtf?

Apparently his girlfriend had told people in their retirement community that he was a professional gambler.

this wasn't a manic episode unless this guy has heaps of brains, stamina and luck. Even a super crazy person would burn out or re consider things somewhere in the set up process here, it went on for at least 4 days. 4 days is warp speed to get that kinda weaponry if he didnt have it already and he had it in the casino or at least the room paid4 for 3 days.

those guys drive off the top of parking structures, jump out of windows (thats why they dont open in vegas for the most part) or kill themselves quietly in their room. They don't do this kinda thing or anything close, there has to be something else involved other than gambling.

Too late. All the nuts have tons of guns and millions of rounds of ammo.

ITA, it's not just a tilt situation. I just meant to say the reported high-stakes gambling losses are one sign of somebody experiencing a manic episode. I'm sure many more signs will come out. The brothers are acting shocked, but this is typical following these kinds of tragedies IME. It will come out that he was behaving erratically in the weeks or months leading up to this. Gambling would only be a small part of that larger picture, and certainly not a cause but rather a symptom. I hope the general public doesn't begin to negatively associate the two disparate subjects.

It's interesting he had been in the room since the 28th, and chose to wait until the last day of the festival (and last performance) to commit the act, which likely would have the fewest people in attendance even though there were still 22k there. You would think he would act quickly to avoid the chance of being discovered. Perhaps he was conflicted about following through and the final performance hastened a now-or-never decision.

Bilzerian's video is ridiculous. What on earth would be the purpose of going elsewhere, getting a gun, and coming back? In his defense, he was just in a spot where people next to him were shot and he may be running his mouth randomly.

I think the distinction isn't between "assault weapons" and rifles, but rather between "machine guns" and everything else.

Machine guns fire repeatedly when you hold the trigger down. Assault weapons can be one-shot-per-trigger-pull but must have other characteristics, i.e. a flash suppressor or folding stock etc. etc. -- the definition of an assault weapon is fairly technical.

It sounds from the bilzerian video as though the shooter had a machine gun, but hell if I know. It should not be controversial to prevent private ownership of machine guns.

Sort of. Manic episodes--by definition--must last at least a week, and they're often characterized by intense focus, obsessive planning, and risk-taking. The 'burning out' phase can come much later, usually in the form of a depressive episode.

I suppose I shouldn't be speculating at the guy's mental health with so little information. I'll take a step back from that for now. I guess I just always jump to the same conclusion because we truly do have a mental health crisis imo

Like I said, haven't posted here in years, but I thought of the community for obv reasons, and I wish everyone here well.

Can we officially rule out a " Bad loss in Vegas " or " went broke in Vegas ". If this dude had 10 rifles and cameras and other ****, he would have sold all of that for 4 figures before trying to kill a bunch of people.

You haven't , but u prolly will now

@ pocket zeros - i was unaware of that and yes very noteworthy. Again motive is hard to find here. But on that note what would motivate any sane person to do such a thing.

@ howard - was definitely an automatic weapon (machine gun) and more than one thats not in question at this point.

Here we go again.

Are you willing to kill people to take away their gun rights? I guarantee the tens of millions that disagree with you are not going to just relinquish their 2nd amendment right without a fight.

A+ post

The guy had what sounded like a machine gun or a modified assault rifle. Machine guns are not easy to come by in the USA and they are not cheap. The government has regulated them so much that they might as well be illegal.

As medicated as people are in this country, as stressed as people are in this country, as unfulfilled as people are in this country, as unhealthy as people are in this country ... incidents like this don't surprise me. Just look how much the average person flips out when they're cut off in traffic. And if 1 out of 100 people are psycho paths in this country, and there are 320 million people... that's 3.2 million possibly unstable people running around.

now shooter described as "$100 a hand poker player"

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las...rnd/index.html

It makes it highly unlikely I would think. Suspect would either sell the guns or use the guns to rob in order to feed his addiction right?

Im not a gun person and aren't allowed to be around em for a couple years according to a couple different govt agencies. Im fairly certain i could get about whatever I wanted tho and I only get in more trouble after the fact, as in im not actually prevented from buying anything. Those type of guns aren't that hard to get or have modified lets be real.

I'm not a risk to anything or anybody but others who are in the same file as I am with the govt are, i shouldn't be allowed to buy a gun but im fairly sure i could order one from walmart or bass pro shops or go to a gun show, and then pay to have it modified. Theoretically speaking. I've never owned a gun other than the single shot 20 gauge my stepfather got me for christmas when i was 16 and i sold it decades ago.

You can't ascribe rational thought to someone who is capable of committing mass-homicide.

so he played 1-2 or 2-5 lol? or 50-100? if that was the case surely somebody here would have some live hhs with him no?

Another article it said he played video poker. It makes more sense that that's what they're talking about but information is still coming out.

Article says VIDEO poker

New machine guns are mostly illegal. Ones manufactured before that was true (I think in 1986) are illegal but highly regulated and I suspect are mostly owned by gun ranges.

I've fired full automatics at a gun range.

I can't remember a machine-gun shooting since Northridge in the early nineties. I think sandy hook and others were not machine guns.

Evil man, tremendously sad and sick event.

or maybe they mean that stupid table game that kinda mimics nlhe, or pai gao for all we know. Or video poker, i saw the above post come in after i finished typin this one