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Man writes letter to Main Event table, begging them to fold on his BB Man writes letter to Main Event table, begging them to fold on his BB

07-11-2023 , 11:32 AM
lol at mad people
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07-11-2023 , 11:33 AM
Uhh if the money is so vital to him then he shouldn't be gambling 10k in the first place. Please I beg you!
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07-11-2023 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by editundo
Uhh if the money is so vital to him then he shouldn't be gambling 10k in the first place. Please I beg you!

Obv and a hearty lol to people itt saying there’s mass…outrage. There’s like 16 posts and every is meh…probably shouldn’t be allowed but whatevs.

Imagine if the recipients of the letter are….recs….hmmm……..
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07-11-2023 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ReliableSource
The letter went into detail about how he could really use the money to pay for an American university and also towards a honeymoon with his wife.

Hey, I know where he could've got $10,000...

A $10,000 buy in tournament has got to be the worst place to have a "hey help me out I really need the money" story.

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Originally Posted by isnortbooze
and even Poker News seems to be celebrating this, like it's the feel good story of the year.
I'm sure it's not a feel good story to the guy who busted in this guy's stead
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07-11-2023 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ReliableSource
Obv and a hearty lol to people itt saying there’s mass…outrage. There’s like 16 posts and every is meh…probably shouldn’t be allowed but whatevs.

Imagine if the recipients of the letter are….recs….hmmm……..
Speak for yourself, I am absolutely fuming and seething with anger.
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07-11-2023 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorBeef
I'm sure it's not a feel good story to the guy who busted in this guy's stead
He had every opportunity to write a letter just like Gao. If he didn't, that's on him.
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07-11-2023 , 01:17 PM
whatevz imo, if he needs it this bad then take it
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07-11-2023 , 01:47 PM
Writing letters is the new GTO
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07-11-2023 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by editundo
Uhh if the money is so vital to him then he shouldn't be gambling 10k in the first place. Please I beg you!

Short odds bet that he satellited in.
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07-11-2023 , 02:13 PM
Representative of China? He’s a spyyyy
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07-11-2023 , 02:19 PM
It's stupid, but from what I understood the player UTG actually straddled when the short stack was in BB to prevent this from happening.

Probably he just doubled up from getting a random hand in pre, and from then went on to min-cash.

The more egregious situation was, as someone mentioned above, the guy who was all-in on BB/ante for less than 30k (10k-15k-15), and the small blind just folded despite already having 10k out there.
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07-11-2023 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by scottyno
There was a different guy who was all in for less than 1 BB who got a walk. That case seems way more likely to have been actual collusion
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Originally Posted by BigWhale
The more egregious situation was, as someone mentioned above, the guy who was all-in on BB/ante for less than 30k (10k-15k-15), and the small blind just folded despite already having 10k out there.
Haha is this confirmed? I'm hoping this was just an honest mistake but jeeez, that's hard to get wrong. It's not like online, where you might click the auto-fold button before you realize the SB has the Sitting Out sign on.

I know I already told this story in a different thread, but one of my co-workers ran into a similar act on the bubble in a tourney a few years back. A successful pro (in fact, someone in the GPI top 10 at the time) was in the BB with about 6x. Action folded to the button. Button raised, SB folded, BB jammed, button folded.

My friend told me about this a few weeks later. At the time, he wasn't sure what to do, as it was quite possible that the button lost track of stack sizes, or was an outright noob who didn't understand the concept of pot commitment. It was well after the hand that he got suspicious, because the two players seemed to know each other – they conversed away from the table, etc.

(Oddly, the BB in this story cashed in the Main this year, finishing in the low 700s.)

The thing is, as we talked it, I didn't know what I would have done, either. Talk to the floor? Speak up at the time, something like "Whoa guys, that was shady AF...?" As he said, in the moment, he didn't pay it much mind. People just do stupid stuff at the table. It wasn't until later that he began to look crook-eyed at the situation.

Anyway, when it comes to the letter writer, count me among those who considers it a nothingburger. If nothing else, it's a dumb move by this Chinese student – if the table HAD fulfilled his request, he would be one of the few people who literally showed his work.

Jeff Platt went to interview the player, and it was revealed then that no, they didn't get him a walk, someone raised. So in my mind, no harm because no foul. Besides, for all we know, one of the players got this little note and went "sorry, man, love the effort but you know we're not allowed to do that." Further still, another player certainly saw the note and thought, "Nice, dead money in the BB!"

Last edited by Wilbury Twist; 07-11-2023 at 03:38 PM.
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07-11-2023 , 03:36 PM
Wasn't the SB a larger stack so would have been beneficial for him to keep the shorty in??
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07-11-2023 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BigWhale
It's stupid, but from what I understood the player UTG actually straddled when the short stack was in BB to prevent this from happening.

Probably he just doubled up from getting a random hand in pre, and from then went on to min-cash.

The more egregious situation was, as someone mentioned above, the guy who was all-in on BB/ante for less than 30k (10k-15k-15), and the small blind just folded despite already having 10k out there.
this actually could be strategic. if for example the sb is the chip leader at the table the longer the bubble lasts the better for him. he can just keep robbing chips until it burst.
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07-11-2023 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
this actually could be strategic. if for example the sb is the chip leader at the table the longer the bubble lasts the better for him. he can just keep robbing chips until it burst.
I was thinking about this while watching the hand-for-hand play yesterday. At that point, such a player probably does not really get to see many hands anyway so it becomes a trade-off between bursting the bubble and going back to a normal speed vs. picking up 2.5 BBs uncontested every 10 minutes or so. And I'm not sure which i would prefer.
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07-11-2023 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
I was thinking about this while watching the hand-for-hand play yesterday. At that point, such a player probably does not really get to see many hands anyway so it becomes a trade-off between bursting the bubble and going back to a normal speed vs. picking up 2.5 BBs uncontested every 10 minutes or so. And I'm not sure which i would prefer.
Picking up 2.5 BBs every hand.
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07-11-2023 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by OmahaDonk
Picking up 2.5 BBs every hand.
Yeah, I get that... but on the bubble, the number of hands you see slows down to a snail's pace.

Obviously, before H4H, it's one of the great situations to find yourself in: constantly raising and taking pots as people wait out the money bubble. Most people here have probably experienced that at least once in their lives.
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07-12-2023 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PlasticElephant
twoplustwo outrage is unrivalled, it's a rec not some cold blooded cheater, and it's one of the best poker stories I've read for ages, I would give him a walk myself
Well who knows. Two Gaos finished in the money, and one of them is actually a mid stakes crusher

https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/pla...?a=r&n=1110511
https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/pla...p?a=r&n=879125

As for the honeymoon stuff - the $10,000 which he decided to put into a donkament would have gone a long way if that had ever been his intention

The whole letter is just childish. He's basically begging to get shoved on.

Last edited by wilhelmraspe; 07-12-2023 at 10:43 AM.
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07-12-2023 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
I was thinking about this while watching the hand-for-hand play yesterday. At that point, such a player probably does not really get to see many hands anyway so it becomes a trade-off between bursting the bubble and going back to a normal speed vs. picking up 2.5 BBs uncontested every 10 minutes or so. And I'm not sure which i would prefer.
The latter, for obvious reasons. All else being equal, the speed of play makes no difference at all.

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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
Yeah, I get that... but on the bubble, the number of hands you see slows down to a snail's pace.

Obviously, before H4H, it's one of the great situations to find yourself in: constantly raising and taking pots as people wait out the money bubble. Most people here have probably experienced that at least once in their lives.
Nothing changes because play switches to H4H. (Other than players perhaps being more mindful of the bubble, which further increases your leverage as a big stack.)
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