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05-21-2020 , 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by grunderson
Thread logic:
Angle shooting is ok at the poker table anywhere because Bart Hanson used bad Twitter practice.

Anytime angle shooting is brought up we should instead focus on Bart's twitter habits.
This.

It’s just such a great opportunity to attack his character.
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05-21-2020 , 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Rmbxr9
How does one build a business this way?
A good % of the people who follow you back will continue following you, although most of them will unfollow back after seeing what you did. As far as I know, Twitter has since banned the use of this tactic.

Regardless, I don't think it's nearly as scummy as actually angle shooting people out of their money

Unfollowing someone on twitter is 100% free.
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05-21-2020 , 12:08 PM
Basically the guy did nothing wrong. Did he act morally reprehensible? Kinda.

For starters, he dind't break any rules, unless stated otherwise by some special house rules or whatever. But normally, it goes like this (considering there are no house rules and it is a cash game): Once it comes to showdown, the player who is first can either a) show his hand and then wait for the other guy to show or muck or b) muck his hand and then the other guy gets the pot.

Verbal declarations don't mean s hit. I mean, I can literally tell that I have two UNO cards in my hand, good for me if the other guy trusts me and mucks, right? Therefore, you always wait. You simply never muck your cards out of turn, it's just a very, very stupid thing to do. If the player who is first to show, refuses to either muck or show, it's on the dealer to tell him that wihtout any action, in the next xx seconds, his hand will be dead. If the dealer doesn't do so, call floor.

So, again, did hero something wrong? Did he something against the rules? No.
Was it a bitchy, scummy, POS kinda move? Of course it was. But poker simply attracts that kind of people a lot, and you better watch out.

€: I see the term angle shooting thrown around quite a bit here. So is it an angle? Well, kinda, yes. But most types of angle shooting are against the rules anyways (at least in most casinos), talking about forward motion etc. So we prolly need to distinguish between angles that are against the rules and angles that aren't. But that's another topic.
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05-21-2020 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat_Vicious
Basically the guy did nothing wrong. Did he act morally reprehensible? Kinda.

For starters, he dind't break any rules, unless stated otherwise by some special house rules or whatever. But normally, it goes like this (considering there are no house rules and it is a cash game): Once it comes to showdown, the player who is first can either a) show his hand and then wait for the other guy to show or muck or b) muck his hand and then the other guy gets the pot.

Verbal declarations don't mean s hit. I mean, I can literally tell that I have two UNO cards in my hand, good for me if the other guy trusts me and mucks, right? Therefore, you always wait. You simply never muck your cards out of turn, it's just a very, very stupid thing to do. If the player who is first to show, refuses to either muck or show, it's on the dealer to tell him that wihtout any action, in the next xx seconds, his hand will be dead. If the dealer doesn't do so, call floor.

So, again, did hero something wrong? Did he something against the rules? No.
Was it a bitchy, scummy, POS kinda move? Of course it was. But poker simply attracts that kind of people a lot, and you better watch out.

€: I see the term angle shooting thrown around quite a bit here. So is it an angle? Well, kinda, yes. But most types of angle shooting are against the rules anyways (at least in most casinos), talking about forward motion etc. So we prolly need to distinguish between angles that are against the rules and angles that aren't. But that's another topic.
Would be a cool post if it wasn't for the simple fact that deliberately mis-declaring your hand is actually against the rules of pretty much every card room there is.

And if you want to make some "urr there were no house-rules" caveat, then Robert's rules of poker ALSO states that you can't deliberately misdeclare your hand. So to sum up: Deliberately misdeclaring your hand at showdown is against the rules of basically every card room there is, and against the *over-arching rules of poker where no exact precedent exists* as well.
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05-21-2020 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Joe Davola
Bart Hanson tried to build his business by following people on Twitter and then unfollowing them after they followed him. Maybe OP is misinformed about who the lowlife is.
That's pretty lame, but its not exactly low life behavior.
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05-22-2020 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by WhYRaIsEsOmUcH
That's pretty lame, but its not exactly low life behavior.
It's a tactic that almost all influencers use on social media.
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05-22-2020 , 11:26 PM
1. Caller is scumbag.
2. Always wait for villain to show/muck hand when you call a river bet. (To punish them for bluffing as much as to avoid getting screwed.) And never muck your hand until dealer pushes chips toward you.
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05-22-2020 , 11:34 PM
And while we're on the topic of scummy behaviour:

I once played a live tournament hand where a guy went all-in, I went all-in behind him with the nuts, then after it was folded around back to him I immediately tabled my hand and the dealer dealt out the remaining streets. We were heads up. He didn't show his hand, but when he saw that I had him crushed, he tried to get my hand disqualified for revealing my cards too early (lol). The dealer informed him that I was all-in and therefore my hand couldn't be dead. But nice try.
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05-22-2020 , 11:41 PM
Sickest angle shooting I've personally witnessed was a low stakes live game where a guy pretended to mistakenly go all in. He protested it as "just a joke" as one would if they were joking, even going so far as to call the floorman over, making a huge scene.

The player he went all in against, understandably, thought the angle shooter was being genuine and called him light. Guy turns over the nuts. Bleh
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05-23-2020 , 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat_Vicious
Basically the guy did nothing wrong. Did he act morally reprehensible? Kinda.

For starters, he dind't break any rules, unless stated otherwise by some special house rules or whatever. But normally, it goes like this (considering there are no house rules and it is a cash game): Once it comes to showdown, the player who is first can either a) show his hand and then wait for the other guy to show or muck or b) muck his hand and then the other guy gets the pot.

Verbal declarations don't mean s hit. I mean, I can literally tell that I have two UNO cards in my hand, good for me if the other guy trusts me and mucks, right? Therefore, you always wait. You simply never muck your cards out of turn, it's just a very, very stupid thing to do. If the player who is first to show, refuses to either muck or show, it's on the dealer to tell him that wihtout any action, in the next xx seconds, his hand will be dead. If the dealer doesn't do so, call floor.

So, again, did hero something wrong? Did he something against the rules? No.
Was it a bitchy, scummy, POS kinda move? Of course it was. But poker simply attracts that kind of people a lot, and you better watch out.

€: I see the term angle shooting thrown around quite a bit here. So is it an angle? Well, kinda, yes. But most types of angle shooting are against the rules anyways (at least in most casinos), talking about forward motion etc. So we prolly need to distinguish between angles that are against the rules and angles that aren't. But that's another topic.
Deliberately misdeclaring your hand at showdown -is- against the rules in most places, though it’s enforcement is typically up to the discretion if the floor since it is often difficult to discern intent.

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deliberately miscalling a hand with the intent of causing another player to discard a winning hand is unethical and may result in forfeiture of the pot.
https://www.cardplayer.com/rules-of-poker
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05-23-2020 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Joe Davola
Bart Hanson tried to build his business by following people on Twitter and then unfollowing them after they followed him. Maybe OP is misinformed about who the lowlife is.
How is the unfollow an advantage for Bart?
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05-23-2020 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by inmyrav
How is the unfollow an advantage for Bart?
I wouldn't call Bart a low life for follow-unfollowing, it's whatever since people can simply unfollow back lol.

But in essence if one follows 20,000 people and gets 15,000 follow backs as a result, and then mass unfollows, it appears as though they are quite popular since their "follower" count is many times greater than their "following" count. People tend to gravitate towards these accounts more so than people who have 20K followers and also follow 20K.
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05-23-2020 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
I wouldn't call Bart a low life for follow-unfollowing, it's whatever since people can simply unfollow back lol.

But in essence if one follows 20,000 people and gets 15,000 follow backs as a result, and then mass unfollows, it appears as though they are quite popular since their "follower" count is many times greater than their "following" count. People tend to gravitate towards these accounts more so than people who have 20K followers and also follow 20K.
This just seems like good marketing strategy then, like titling your content for SEO. No one is forcing you to follow him, and unless he is your personal friend, I can’t see how you can take offense over whether he follows you or not.
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05-23-2020 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ejames209
Sickest angle shooting I've personally witnessed was a low stakes live game where a guy pretended to mistakenly go all in. He protested it as "just a joke" as one would if they were joking, even going so far as to call the floorman over, making a huge scene.

The player he went all in against, understandably, thought the angle shooter was being genuine and called him light. Guy turns over the nuts. Bleh

Reminds me of this beauty from LATB:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxRilqAflkc&t=331s
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05-25-2020 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Joe Davola
Bart Hanson tried to build his business by following people on Twitter and then unfollowing them after they followed him. Maybe OP is misinformed about who the lowlife is.
am I the only one who laughed out loud after reading this post?
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05-25-2020 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
This just seems like good marketing strategy then, like titling your content for SEO. No one is forcing you to follow him, and unless he is your personal friend, I can’t see how you can take offense over whether he follows you or not.
It's a standard tactic used in a successful marketing campaign.
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05-25-2020 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
This just seems like good marketing strategy then, like titling your content for SEO. No one is forcing you to follow him, and unless he is your personal friend, I can’t see how you can take offense over whether he follows you or not.
It is poor Twitter etiquette, and I can see how someone would find it off-putting. But the suggestion that it makes him the lowlife rather than the caller was pretty ridiculous.
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05-25-2020 , 09:19 PM
Most successful "influencers" do not use the follow/unfollow technique, it's definitely not standard. They simply produce content that people want to see and get followers as a natural consequence. follow/unfollow is considered dorky and an inefficient way to gain a real following of people actually interested in your content.
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05-25-2020 , 09:31 PM
So confused. So this thread is about how to get people to follow you on twitter?
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06-02-2020 , 07:33 PM
the super rare 4 barrel bluff has squeeked through
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06-03-2020 , 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ginocan
So confused. So this thread is about how to get people to follow you on twitter?
Well, it was until you made everyone feel bad and killed the conversation.
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