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08-28-2011 , 02:13 AM
Stopped reading at page ten.. ..Im sorry
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08-28-2011 , 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
Personally, I'm still waiting to find out why he has a problem escrowing when a) it's a relatively common practice and b) a high stakes player offered to escrow and was vouched for in this very thread.
Because if he escrowed he'd have to play an 'online donk' and get crushed.
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08-28-2011 , 02:54 AM
These challenges always end without actually happening, too bad.
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08-28-2011 , 05:59 AM
lol. op online pro's are light years ahead of live pro's when it comes to strategy.

cannot argue.
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08-28-2011 , 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Pretty much left this thread alone, but wanted to clear one thing up. At no point did this douche Daliman ever offer to play as I would have paid the dealer, floorman, & permanent chip runner for Daliman. I did offer to put up my girlfriend against him & this will happen for sure if he agrees next time we are in Vegas. Not sure why he continues to lie. I play with much better players everyday.
Yet again, Gabe "All Talk" Costner is too stupid for words. At what point in time did I ever say I offered to play you? Therefore, When did I lie. I have said more than once even though you seem to fail in all things relating to poker, you may actually be a decent player. But yes, bring your girl out, give me 2-1, I'll play her. FWIW, you played 90 minutes with me, where I bided my time at a crazy table and won ~2k while you were there, so if you think I suck, let's see what odds YOU'LL give me.

Also FWIW, there is little chance you are better than me. I have documented proof of winning a LOT online, and you are documented to suck online, so obv only people you can beat are total fish. Also, I have beaten a very good HU player before in one of these challenges where we both escrowed and neither of us pussed out like you repeatedly do, and have probably played 10x as many HU hands as you, (and won, too!) Nice tourney results tho. Don't spend that $$$ too quickly.

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08-28-2011 , 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by iCrush Souls
so daliman insults you throughout this thread pretty thoroughly over and over (reasonably so) and you want to play him?

and samoleus makes one post that you find insulting and you immediately call off the match.

what is wrong with you?
gabe can u please respond to this?.......i would love to hear what u have to say
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08-28-2011 , 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RobFarha
gabe who?
The name is Costner. Gabe ALL TALK Costner.
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08-28-2011 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Daliman
Summary: Gabe "All Talk" Costner is likely an ok player that has had significant live tourney success, but is quite delusional on most every subject regarding poker or his GF, including the fact that he think he is better than every player he has ever played with, (which includes Ivey). When given the chance to back this up, he wusses out, which he did live also, (when sitting with me). I and a few others have repeatedly pwned him in numerous ways, yet he is still oblivious and solipsistic. Also, his GF is the best female player in the world according to him, because he taught her to play.

That pretty much covers it.
I might not be understanding the point here but it does seem to imply that Gabe backed down to you while playing live.
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08-28-2011 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
You do know he'll ignore this as well as every other question that points out his many, many logical contradictions, right? Personally, I'm still waiting to find out why he has a problem escrowing when a) it's a relatively common practice and b) a high stakes player offered to escrow and was vouched for in this very thread.
don't forget, the high stakes player who offered to escrow for free and was vouched for in this thread was RECOMMENDED BY GABE



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Originally Posted by iCrush Souls
so daliman insults you throughout this thread pretty thoroughly over and over (reasonably so) and you want to play him?

and samoleus makes one post that you find insulting and you immediately call off the match.

what is wrong with you?

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Originally Posted by crazylarry1
gabe can u please respond to this?.......i would love to hear what u have to say

if anyone has a question that would make him look bad if he answers it, or points out a logical fallacy or blatant contradiction in his posts, Gabe says they're narrow-minded, stupid, illogical, immature, and part of the mob mentality. this is the reasoning he has used to avoid responding to posts/questions like these

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08-28-2011 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by daliman
When given the chance to back this up, he wusses out, which he did live also, (when sitting with me).
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Originally Posted by caseycjc
I might not be understanding the point here but it does seem to imply that Gabe backed down to you while playing live.
daliman, i'm assuming this was misunderstood, but you'd have to agree with casey. and the only thing other thing i can see it as is that someone else challenged Gabe while you were sitting at the same table, and Gabe Costnered out.
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08-28-2011 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Daliman
Last week, I was playing 5-10 at Rio, and Gabe sat to my left,( I didn't know who he was at the time). Within 15 minutes he was already raise/4betting/cbet/ shoving turn bottom pair, inflating the living crap out of pots constantly with little regard for hand values or ranges, and losing ~5k in the span of 2 hours, and he and I got into the "Online vs live" discussion and I obv pwned him. He even pulled out the "I have a higher cashing % than anyone in poker" line, as well as most of the lines we have seen in this thread. He said he would play any online player HUNL or PLO for 50k, and I told him I have at least 10 different friends I can call that could be there within the hour. Then he said, ok, how about for 250k, told him I have #'s for that too, and that I have a couple numbers if he wanted to play for multiple millions, should he try to one-up again. Strangely enough, he demurred from there.
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Originally Posted by ucantcme63
daliman, i'm assuming this was misunderstood, but you'd have to agree with casey. and the only thing other thing i can see it as is that someone else challenged Gabe while you were sitting at the same table, and Gabe Costnered out.
This had been previously established way at the beginning of the thread that All Talk said he'd play any online player, Daliman said he could have people there within the hour and All Talk backed down.
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08-28-2011 , 11:40 AM
OK, so daliman didn't challenge him, he was just going to bring in the troops, gotcha.
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08-28-2011 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by daliman
He said he would play any online player HUNL or PLO for 50k, and I told him I have at least 10 different friends I can call that could be there within the hour. Then he said, ok, how about for 250k, told him I have #'s for that too, and that I have a couple numbers if he wanted to play for multiple millions, should he try to one-up again. Strangely enough, he demurred from there.
that's pretty good. now i realize why you established that nickname so early on in the thread.
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08-28-2011 , 01:58 PM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...76&postcount=1

Gabe, are you playing these?
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08-28-2011 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by caseycjc
the stock market is too volatile!
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08-28-2011 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by caseycjc
I might not be understanding the point here but it does seem to imply that Gabe backed down to you while playing live.
I can see how the could be construed that way, but it actually is in reference to something I mentioned in my first post:


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Originally Posted by Daliman
I was thinking the EXACT same thing, other than the "Started in 2008" part. Last week, I was playing 5-10 at Rio, and Gabe sat to my left,( I didn't know who he was at the time). Within 15 minutes he was already raise/4betting/cbet/ shoving turn bottom pair, inflating the living crap out of pots constantly with little regard for hand values or ranges, and losing ~5k in the span of 2 hours, and he and I got into the "Online vs live" discussion and I obv pwned him. He even pulled out the "I have a higher cashing % than anyone in poker" line, as well as most of the lines we have seen in this thread. He said he would play any online player HUNL or PLO for 50k, and I told him I have at least 10 different friends I can call that could be there within the hour. Then he said, ok, how about for 250k, told him I have #'s for that too, and that I have a couple numbers if he wanted to play for multiple millions, should he try to one-up again. Strangely enough, he demurred from there. Then he got into the whole "cards than can change value" theory, even showing me online info on a patent. Seems like the standard guy who is decent at poker, but doesn't understand that you don't always win, and when you lose it's not always rigged. Probably cashed big in a few events, then thought he played for a living, without understanding what being a professional poker player is all about. Seemed to not understand metagame at all either (while he was playing super aggro, a guy with like $850 on the table 5-bet him AI with AJo and cracked his JJ, and GC couldn't understand why he did it.) Was funny also how he was talking to me like I was some kid who doesn't know anything about the history of poker, or even online poker, as I'm almost 7 years older than him and likely have forgotten more about the history of poker than he'll ever know(I have like 350 books on poker, gambling and Vegas). After he busted, he left muttering how no one on the face of the earth runs worse than him, and the entire table had a good chuckle.

Like I said, seems a decent enough guy, but definitely a conspiracy theorist that is kidding himself, and likely ONLY himself).
See bolded above.

EDIT: Damn, Jedi doin' work. nh sir.
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08-28-2011 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by caseycjc

I may play in the bigger ones, I've been playing the 5/10/25 PLO. Already up close to what I could have won from SAMO so working out pretty well.


Most of the Daliman post is utter BS. We had a live online debate at the table & of course there were a couple of online players there so they naturally disagreed, pretty much without listening to my explanations as to why. I did say that I thought I could beat any strictly online player in a live setting. He mentioned that he knew some players that would probably take me up on it which was no news to me as I could find several myself. At least until they ask around some & find out that I actually know what I'm doing, then they tend to back off.

There was never any mention about a 250k figure, that's completely made up in his mind, when he was talking about some players that would play, he casually mentioned it & never mentioned anyone specific. I really didn't care because people say that **** all the time, Like I said I was in the game for 45 min or so because I just busted the main & waiting on Claudia to go on break. I had 3100 in my pocket when I sat, so the whole thing about playing 250k in an hour was just made up by Daliman just as most of the other **** he says.

He now also says he wants 2/1 to play Claudia, Does that means he backs out if I don't give him 2/1. I say that's being a Wuss if he doesn't play a girl for even money after running his mouth about it.
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08-28-2011 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
that's being a Wuss if he doesn't play a girl for even money after running his mouth about it
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08-28-2011 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
I may play in the bigger ones, I've been playing the 5/10/25 PLO. Already up close to what I could have won from SAMO so working out pretty well.
Good luck. Still don't know why you won't play Samo, even after YOU had a person who would escrow.

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Most of the Daliman post is utter BS. We had a live online debate at the table & of course there were a couple of online players there so they naturally disagreed, pretty much without listening to my explanations as to why. I did say that I thought I could beat any strictly online player in a live setting. He mentioned that he knew some players that would probably take me up on it which was no news to me as I could find several myself. At least until they ask around some & find out that I actually know what I'm doing, then they tend to back off.

There was never any mention about a 250k figure, that's completely made up in his mind, when he was talking about some players that would play, he casually mentioned it & never mentioned anyone specific. I really didn't care because people say that **** all the time, Like I said I was in the game for 45 min or so because I just busted the main & waiting on Claudia to go on break. I had 3100 in my pocket when I sat, so the whole thing about playing 250k in an hour was just made up by Daliman just as most of the other **** he says.
He never said he mentioned anyone specific. The rest is hearsay.

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He now also says he wants 2/1 to play Claudia, Does that means he backs out if I don't give him 2/1. I say that's being a Wuss if he doesn't play a girl for even money after running his mouth about it.
No, you were the one that said Claudia was a big favorite over anyone. He just took you up on it. If you offered it, and he refused, then he'd be a big wuss about it. Much like you said that you could beat any online player, and when a challenger appeared, you backed out too.
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08-28-2011 , 06:18 PM
Yet another post from Gabe. You are being trashed around ITT because you are not making an honest attempt to prove what you claim.

Atleast 3 people have Quoted it till now I will Quote this post from iCrush Souls
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Originally Posted by iCrush Souls
so daliman insults you throughout this thread pretty thoroughly over and over (reasonably so) and you want to play him?

and samoleus makes one post that you find insulting and you immediately call off the match.

what is wrong with you?
I know you read this thread 10 times a day, If you want us to believe anything you have ever said,
a)answer the quoted post
b)accept the challenge to play live from anyone who challenges you(which is your den, And you have claimed that you will take on anyone in your den, even Ivey.)
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08-28-2011 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
until they ask around some & find out that I actually know what I'm doing, then they tend to back off.


Are these alleged backing off incidents as craven as your full-speed retreat from samo?
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08-28-2011 , 06:48 PM
Originally Posted by iCrush Souls
so daliman insults you throughout this thread pretty thoroughly over and over (reasonably so) and you want to play him?

and samoleus makes one post that you find insulting and you immediately call off the match.

what is wrong with you?



This is somewhat of an irrelevant question since we were talking about when I was in Vegas before the thread started, He didn't insult me until he was in front of a computer & myself a few thousand miles away.

It's also irrelevant since we were talking about having He & Claudia play instead of me, I don't think he would insult her since he doesn't know her, but I may be giving too much credit.

At the current time, I don't really care anything about playing him because I think it would be a waist of my time, If I was going to play someone to prove the merits of this thread, Id rather it be someone that can actually play & didn't admit to sucking at poker a year or so ago.
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08-28-2011 , 06:51 PM
you're poasts are always sow throwoughly construkted

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08-28-2011 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Originally Posted by iCrush Souls
so daliman insults you throughout this thread pretty thoroughly over and over (reasonably so) and you want to play him?

and samoleus makes one post that you find insulting and you immediately call off the match.

what is wrong with you?



This is somewhat of an irrelevant question since we were talking about when I was in Vegas before the thread started, He didn't insult me until he was in front of a computer & myself a few thousand miles away.

It's also irrelevant since we were talking about having He & Claudia play instead of me, I don't think he would insult her since he doesn't know her, but I may be giving too much credit.

At the current time, I don't really care anything about playing him because I think it would be a waist of my time, If I was going to play someone to prove the merits of this thread, Id rather it be someone that can actually play & didn't admit to sucking at poker a year or so ago.
Actually, you yourself stated that you would know play ANYONE (except Samo), so surely if Daliman was to take you up on it you would keep to your word and do so, yes?

So you'd rather play someone good rather than someone that sucks. Ye gods, you do have a high opinion of your own talents and abilities, don't you? Personally I'd rather play someone that sucks, but then I'm not a professional like yourself.

Would you please explain your reasons for not being willing to take up the other challenge that was accepted in this thread because of a single issue, your unwillingness to escrow? Why won't you escrow?

And please, no rubbish about "I should be trusted because I've been on TV and people know who I am". That argument is de factor absurd; Chino Rheem has been on TV before as well, and I wouldn't lend him a stick of gum, let alone fly to meet him to play poker without some assurance it would happen. Between two parties who don't really know each other, escrow provides an assurance to both that the match will take place and no one can fail to pay up if they lose. Seems like a pretty standard and beneficial arrangement to me.

And it's "waste", not "waist". Waste is refuse or trash, or to throw something away. Waist is that area of your body between your chest and your hips.
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08-28-2011 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Originally Posted by iCrush Souls
so daliman insults you throughout this thread pretty thoroughly over and over (reasonably so) and you want to play him?

and samoleus makes one post that you find insulting and you immediately call off the match.

what is wrong with you?



This is somewhat of an irrelevant question since we were talking about when I was in Vegas before the thread started, He didn't insult me until he was in front of a computer & myself a few thousand miles away.

It's also irrelevant since we were talking about having He & Claudia play instead of me, I don't think he would insult her since he doesn't know her, but I may be giving too much credit.

At the current time, I don't really care anything about playing him because I think it would be a waist of my time, If I was going to play someone to prove the merits of this thread, Id rather it be someone that can actually play & didn't admit to sucking at poker a year or so ago.
Many things to respond to, such little time, but when exactly did I admit to sucking at poker?

Just like most other crap you spout then leave hanging, I'm not expecting a factual response.
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