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08-24-2011 , 11:04 AM
An announcement of an announcement? He'll tell us when he's ready!
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08-24-2011 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Quartersack
If anyone in this thread should know how those games play I wouldve expected it to be you. You know that the game usually plays with a straddle. You also know that most nights the 2/5 game is the biggest game in the room. You also know the idiots that come thru those doors. Does someone win 5k everynight? Probably not. Is it uncommon for someone to win 5k in the game? Not at all and thats all I was saying.

7 figures? Mad props? Nowhere in either of my post did I say I routinely win 5k. Hell, nowhere in my post did I even mention that I play in the damn game. Nice reading comprehension skills.

I was just trying to contribute to the thread by shedding some light on how deep the games play since it appeared to me some people were unaware. I havent played in all that many places but the times I have (venetian/bellagio in particular) there was no comparision in the 2/5 games. This you know as well. If calling me a ****** makes you feel better about yourself then carry on but I dont appreciate it.

I agree with about 2% of what Gabe has said in this thread. And that 2% is how childish you people act. If you disagree thats fine. How about letting me know what you disagree with and we can have a discussion about it like 2 adults? Is that to much to ask for around here? Nice life skills.
Correct, I lived in Biloxi and was a regular at the Beau for some time, so yes, I do know how the games play there, and you've greatly exaggerated how good the games are. I know you never said you played in the games, but if 5k a session is a common win in a 2/5 game, I would imagine it being pretty easy to get staked in such a game if you have any poker ability whatsoever.

Of course there are nights when some random pit player sits down with deep money in a 2/5 or 5/10 game, but in general the games don't play that much bigger than games anywhere else. Live poker games play very deep, have straddles and are extremely soft at basically any major casino on a weekend, this is not something specific to the Beau.

The point I was making was that if the games were ANYWHERE near as good as you suggested, there would clearly be a number of 2/5 and 5/10 grinders flocking to Biloxi.


And wow, I still can't get over the 5/10/300 thing. I mean that is truly remarkable stuff. I wouldn't be shocked if the guy was making it 300 only like a few times an orbit either. There's a guy I play with sometimes that will make various blind raises/allins preflop, anywhere from 1k to 5k when playing 10/25, so do you suggest this game be referred to as 10/25/1000/5000/Allin?
Just trying to make sure I'm using the right terminology in the future.

And SGT, sorry for the remark in my last post, won't happen again, but can you really blame me?
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08-24-2011 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by LT22
An announcement of an announcement? He'll tell us when he's ready!
If and when the time does come, we may have to read his lips.
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08-25-2011 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Well, neither of us play an orthodox strategy because we are watching tells, so a math determination of whether or not a certain hand was played correctly would never work. We flat certain hands in position that others wouldnt. Shes been killing these online kids in the cash games, we can all improve, but shes as good as anyone I play with for sure. A couple of years ago she was playing 50 100 200 PLO with ben roberts, david williams, devilfish & several other top PLO players & winning everyday. Shes much more experienced than you think
This guy's a freakin' riot. More Gabe! More!!
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08-25-2011 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
We flat certain hands in position that others wouldnt.
LivePlayersTM
Flatting junk IP because my opponent scratched her nose since 1883, yeehaww.
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08-25-2011 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Well, neither of us play an orthodox strategy because we are watching tells, so a math determination of whether or not a certain hand was played correctly would never work. We flat certain hands in position that others wouldnt. Shes been killing these online kids in the cash games, we can all improve, but shes as good as anyone I play with for sure. A couple of years ago she was playing 50 100 200 PLO with ben roberts, david williams, devilfish & several other top PLO players & winning everyday. Shes much more experienced than you think
Let me guess; shortly after a big tourney score for you, with you at the table at the same time? And yet now she plays 2-5? Gee, even more holes in the story emerge. Yes, I'm sure she's JUST as good as THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD YOU PLAY WITH EVERYDAY.

Probably the one case ever that Gabe "All Talk" Costner read a player as super-strong when they are actually quite weak.
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08-25-2011 , 09:11 AM
can anyone say obsessed
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08-25-2011 , 09:25 AM
I can, but I won't.
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08-25-2011 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by caseycjc
can anyone say obsessed
Its unbelievable really, even worse its a grown man with children and not just some kid with nothing better to do...
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08-25-2011 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Polov
Its unbelievable really, even worse its a grown man with children and not just some kid with nothing better to do...
Yes, I have probably spent upwards of 3 hours over the last month being obsessed with this thread. Clearly, spending all that time I have NOTHING better to do, even though most people watch more TV than that every day.

I am somewhat obsessed with exposing lies and stupidity in my chosen profession though, so this thread is quite the fount for me in that sense. Alas, some, such as Polov, are beyond help.
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08-25-2011 , 04:06 PM
I guess Polov must be obsessed with the posters berating Gabe. Nothing better to do Polov?
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08-25-2011 , 06:35 PM
Polov is probably butthurt IRL and needs to boost his ego on here. pretty apparent.
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08-25-2011 , 10:26 PM
Gabe Costner Is The Real Deal


I know a lot of you guys are skeptical that Gabe is one of the top live players in the world. I certainly don’t blame you, I would be too if I was you!! I will now tell you what convinced me that not only is Gabe a great poker player, he is clearly one of the best

Now, before I begin my explanation some of you are prolly wondering who I am and why my opinion matters while others know my legacy. I’ve been know as “The Best mid-stakes reg of this decade” and others know me as “The Scum Hunter.” I don’t have much of an ego, so you will never catch me saying that I am the best mid-stakes reg, but my win-rate is astronomical at 400NL, that is all I’m saying. I can even post stats/graphs for the skeptics, but my WORD is my WORD.

When Black Friday hit I was sad like most, now I was forced to play live poker. Being an awkward, anti-social nerd it was hard dealing w/ the outside world, but I managed to get by. After all, many of the online players that were forced to play live knew who I was, and they knew not to *** w/ me. This turned out great for me, it was just me and a table full of fish, well besides one guy, the only guy that did not fear me for some reason. I just figured he didn’t know who I was or he thought he could profit w/ so many fish in the game. At the time, we were playing 5/10/300, and it only took this mystery guy, aka Gabe Costner, 4hrs to clean me out of my $20k.

Now, at this time I thought like a standard internet player, must be variance, right? I mean, what kinda idiot calls 3 streets w/ bottom pair readless ? It is just not a good mathematical strategy. My ego told me he was just some random fish, so the next day I filled up my duffel bag w/ money, this time $50k, and went back to the casino to get my money back. Lucky for me that “fish” is sitting, I insta-sit down, this time at higher stakes, 10/25. Much to my surprise, after just 4hrs of play Gabe cleaned me out again ! I left the casino speechless.

It was puzzling to me how he was crushing me. There are only a handful of ppl in the world that are able to crush me wen it comes to poker, and certainly not some live donk. Lil did I know!!!! I stayed up half the night just thinking bout it, and it didn’t hit me till the next day.

I was forced to play smaller stakses since I lost a decent chunk of change to Gabe ,and unfortunately the rest of my cash was stuck on FTP and Stars. When Kobe, a professional poker player from Poland, sat down it changed my life for the better. At first, I thought he was just one of those arrogant live donks, he was claiming to be one of the best poker players in the world, which Is obv LOL. Why would he be grindin $2/$5 if he was so good at poker, right? WRONG! Kobe repeatedly called out other players hands w/ consistent accuracy. Now, he just wasn’t calling out if the guy was weak or strong or even villain’s range, he called out the players’ exact hand. It finally got to a point where I had to beg this guy for coaching, but he insisted that he did not coach. I would not give up. I beged and begged until we finally settle on $20k for one hr of coaching. I know what some of you are thinking, $20k for one hour of coaching is absurd. All I can say to that is, it was worth the money x100. Tbh, it was a steal.

Kobe really opened my eyes to live tells. He not only told me what to look for, but also how to gain more information w/ certain strategies. Now I don’t want to reveal all my secrets for obvious reasons, but one strat is to make a the pot bigger to gain more info. People give off more tells when their tournament life is on the line, but in small pots they will be more relaxed and not give off as much info. So occasionally I will limp UTG blind and watch the players closely, if one of them raises I will 3-bet to gain more info. I also learned the importance of playing hands blind vs. good tell readers. Guess what? If you don’t look at your cards you can’t give off any reliable tells. Tbh, most online players would be better off playing blind when playing vs. live sharks, you guys just don’t realize how much info you give away just by putting your chips into the pot!

When our coaching session finished, I thanked Kobe, and told him that now I have the skills to beat my nemesis, Gabe Costner. Kobe froze for a few seconds then asked me if I was really going to play w/ Gabe “The Honey badger” Costner? Some of you are prolly wondering how he earned the nickname the Honey badger, so I will tell you. Well first, if you don’t know much about Honey badgers I recommend googling it and watching some videos, and then you will see the similarities between Gabe and a Honey badger. Basically what you need to know is, looks can be deceiving. Gabe may look like a bytch that has no chance in a fight vs. the avg man, but this is completely false. If you insult Gabe at the poker tbls prepare to lose all of your teeth. If you don’t believe me come down to Biloxi and find out for yourself. Also, by looking at Gabe you would prolly assume he is some dumb hick from the south, but again you would be wrong, he can actually talk math theory w/ the best of them!!

Kobe warned me this guy would be very hard to beat, but I didn’t care, I was determined to beat this guy or go broke trying. The only problem was I was currently broke, I spent the last of my money on coaching. Now, being broke, I had only a couple options: 1. Wait for FTP to pay me back my money…. or 2. Enter the work force(sigh). I know what you guys are thinking, why not just get staked, after all you are one of the top online poker players, right? Yea, ppl would line up to stake me, but I would never accept a stake, unlike most of you online nerds. Why? Because I am not a MUNCHER!! You can call me all the bad names you want, arrogant Genius, big dick *******, etc, but you can never call me a MUNCHER!! I see these pathetic munchers at the casino all the time, they are usually fat ****s, munching at every opportunity they get. It’s easy to spot a muncher. He will usually be obese, he will wear a stained t-shirt, and he will usually have a snack on hand. And of course, he will know if you have a snack on you. These fat pathetic ****s will approach me all the time and ask me to stake them in an Omaha game. Of course, they have never played Omaha in their life, but they hear it’s a soft field…. LMAO! Yea, it’s a soft field because fat asses like you, ppl who don’t know the rules, are playin in it!! Srry for that rant, but munchers just really piss me off.

Anyway, I worked my ass off shipping boxes for UPS until I had a $5k BR. Once I saved up enough, I ran back to the casino(that’s what I do, exercise, unlike you fat fks) and sat down w/ Gabe again at 25/50. I only had one bullet to my name, so it was do or die. We battled head up for 8 straight hrs, and by night’s end I was a $10k winner. I was ecstatic, I finally beat the man that was said to be unbeatable. When Costner quit, he racked up his chips, put on his jean jacket, pulled out a pack of cigarettes from the top right pocket of his jean jacket, pulled out a cigarette and put it in his mouth, but did not light it. Then he took 2 steps away from the table and he paused, he then turned around and said to me ”You know kid, you got enough horse sense to make it far in this game.” He took another 3-steps, then turned around again and walked back to the table this time and pointed to two chicks standing about 40ft away and says “You see that chick over there.” I nod. “I’m gonna **** her in the ass, and that other chick, I’m gonna suck her nipples till dey bleed, but when I finish I’m gonna buy you a beer.” “ You hold tight, I’ll be back in a Lickety split.”

Gabe is a man of his WORD, he bought me that beer. And from there a friendship was born. In the future, when ppl ask me when did I realize I was going to be one of the best live players of all time I will refer to the words that Gave said to me. After all, it was on that day that I not only formed an unbreakable bond w/ one of the greatest live players of my time, but it was also on that day that I defeated this great man.

Is Gabe Costner the best poker player ever? I don’t know. Is he in the top 10? Of course he is in the top 10. Should we listen to Gabe when he talks about poker? Darn tootin'

Last edited by SGT RJ; 08-26-2011 at 10:25 AM.
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08-25-2011 , 10:55 PM
^have to commend you for the effort you took in writing. I probably shouldn't say more.

Last edited by KingOfAces; 08-25-2011 at 11:05 PM.
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08-26-2011 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Never Win
Gabe Costner Is The Real Deal


I know a lot of you guys are skeptical that Gabe is one of the top live players in the world. I certainly donít blame you, I would be too if I was you!! I will now tell you what convinced me that not only is Gabe a great poker player, he is clearly one of the best

Now, before I begin my explanation some of you are prolly wondering who I am and why my opinion matters while others know my legacy. Iíve been know as ďThe Best mid-stakes reg of this decadeĒ and others know me as ďThe Scum Hunter.Ē I donít have much of an ego, so you will never catch me saying that I am the best mid-stakes reg, but my win-rate is astronomical at 400NL, that is all Iím saying. I can even post stats/graphs for the skeptics, but my WORD is my WORD.

When Black Friday hit I was sad like most, now I was forced to play live poker. Being an awkward, anti-social nerd it was hard dealing w/ the outside world, but I managed to get by. After all, many of the online players that were forced to play live knew who I was, and they knew not to *** w/ me. This turned out great for me, it was just me and a table full of fish, well besides one guy, the only guy that did not fear me for some reason. I just figured he didnít know who I was or he thought he could profit w/ so many fish in the game. At the time, we were playing 5/10/300, and it only took this mystery guy, aka Gabe Costner, 4hrs to clean me out of my $20k.

Now, at this time I thought like a standard internet player, must be variance, right? I mean, what kinda idiot calls 3 streets w/ bottom pair readless ? It is just not a good mathematical strategy. My ego told me he was just some random fish, so the next day I filled up my duffel bag w/ money, this time $50k, and went back to the casino to get my money back. Lucky for me that ďfishĒ is sitting, I insta-sit down, this time at higher stakes, 10/25. Much to my surprise, after just 4hrs of play Gabe cleaned me out again ! I left the casino speechless.

It was puzzling to me how he was crushing me. There are only a handful of ppl in the world that are able to crush me wen it comes to poker, and certainly not some live donk. Lil did I know!!!! I stayed up half the night just thinking bout it, and it didnít hit me till the next day.

I was forced to play smaller stakses since I lost a decent chunk of change to Gabe ,and unfortunately the rest of my cash was stuck on FTP and Stars. When Kobe, a professional poker player from Poland, sat down it changed my life for the better. At first, I thought he was just one of those arrogant live donks, he was claiming to be one of the best poker players in the world, which Is obv LOL. Why would he be grindin $2/$5 if he was so good at poker, right? WRONG! Kobe repeatedly called out other players hands w/ consistent accuracy. Now, he just wasnít calling out if the guy was weak or strong or even villainís range, he called out the playersí exact hand. It finally got to a point where I had to beg this guy for coaching, but he insisted that he did not coach. I would not give up. I beged and begged until we finally settle on $20k for one hr of coaching. I know what some of you are thinking, $20k for one hour of coaching is absurd. All I can say to that is, it was worth the money x100. Tbh, it was a steal.

Kobe really opened my eyes to live tells. He not only told me what to look for, but also how to gain more information w/ certain strategies. Now I donít want to reveal all my secrets for obvious reasons, but one strat is to make a the pot bigger to gain more info. People give off more tells when their tournament life is on the line, but in small pots they will be more relaxed and not give off as much info. So occasionally I will limp UTG blind and watch the players closely, if one of them raises I will 3-bet to gain more info. I also learned the importance of playing hands blind vs. good tell readers. Guess what? If you donít look at your cards you canít give off any reliable tells. Tbh, most online players would be better off playing blind when playing vs. live sharks, you guys just donít realize how much info you give away just by putting your chips into the pot!

When our coaching session finished, I thanked Kobe, and told him that now I have the skills to beat my nemesis, Gabe Costner. Kobe froze for a few seconds then asked me if I was really going to play w/ Gabe ďThe Honey badgerĒ Costner? Some of you are prolly wondering how he earned the nickname the Honey badger, so I will tell you. Well first, if you donít know much about Honey badgers I recommend googling it and watching some videos, and then you will see the similarities between Gabe and a Honey badger. Basically what you need to know is, looks can be deceiving. Gabe may look like a bytch that has no chance in a fight vs. the avg man, but this is completely false. If you insult Gabe at the poker tbls prepare to lose all of your teeth. If you donít believe me come down to Biloxi and find out for yourself. Also, by looking at Gabe you would prolly assume he is some dumb hick from the south, but again you would be wrong, he can actually talk math theory w/ the best of them!!

Kobe warned me this guy would be very hard to beat, but I didnít care, I was determined to beat this guy or go broke trying. The only problem was I was currently broke, I spent the last of my money on coaching. Now, being broke, I had only a couple options: 1. Wait for FTP to pay me back my moneyÖ. or 2. Enter the work force(sigh). I know what you guys are thinking, why not just get staked, after all you are one of the top online poker players, right? Yea, ppl would line up to stake me, but I would never accept a stake, unlike most of you online nerds. Why? Because I am not a MUNCHER!! You can call me all the bad names you want, arrogant Genius, big dick A-hole, etc, but you can never call me a MUNCHER!! I see these pathetic munchers at the casino all the time, they are usually fat fks, munching at every opportunity they get. Itís easy to spot a muncher. He will usually be obese, he will wear a stained t-shirt, and he will usually have a snack on hand. And of course, he will know if you have a snack on you. These fat pathetic fks will approach me all the time and ask me to stake them in an Omaha game. Of course, they have never played Omaha in their life, but they hear itís a soft fieldÖ. LMAO! Yea, itís a soft field because fat azzs like you, ppl who donít know the rules, are playin in it!! Srry for that rant, but munchers just really piss me off.

Anyway, I worked my azz off shipping boxes for UPS until I had a $5k BR. Once I saved up enough, I ran back to the casino(thatís what I do, exercise, unlike you fat fks) and sat down w/ Gabe again at 25/50. I only had one bullet to my name, so it was do or die. We battled head up for 8 straight hrs, and by nightís end I was a $10k winner. I was ecstatic, I finally beat the man that was said to be unbeatable. When Costner quit, he racked up his chips, put on his jean jacket, pulled out a pack of cigarettes from the top right pocket of his jean jacket, pulled out a cigarette and put it in his mouth, but did not light it. Then he took 2 steps away from the table and he paused, he then turned around and said to me ĒYou know kid, you got enough horse sense to make it far in this game.Ē He took another 3-steps, then turned around again and walked back to the table this time and pointed to two chicks standing about 40ft away and says ďYou see that chick over there.Ē I nod. ďIím gonna fk her in the azz, and that other chick, Iím gonna suck her nipples till dey bleed, but when I finish Iím gonna buy you a beer.Ē ď You hold tight, Iíll be back in a Lickety split.Ē

Gabe is a man of his WORD, he bought me that beer. And from there a friendship was born. In the future, when ppl ask me when did I realize I was going to be one of the best live players of all time I will refer to the words that Gave said to me. After all, it was on that day that I not only formed an unbreakable bond w/ one of the greatest live players of my time, but it was also on that day that I defeated this great man.

Is Gabe Costner the best poker player ever? I donít know. Is he in the top 10? Of course he is in the top 10. Should we listen to Gabe when he talks about poker? Darn tootin'
Did I really just read that???? WTF? Level? WTF? AHHHHHHHHhahahahahaha
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08-26-2011 , 12:57 AM
Stopped reading here:

"At the time, we were playing 5/10/300"

Actually I read the whole thing but should have stopped there. there was nothing funny or witty to be found.
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08-26-2011 , 01:14 AM
never win: your post is so standard.
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08-26-2011 , 01:53 AM
but seriously, the honey badger might be a good analogy. Clearly Gabe can play much much better than he sounds on here. He has weird, blatantly wrong opinions, can't formulate arguments or sound intelligent through his words. But he can def play I'm sure
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08-26-2011 , 02:23 AM
WTF does muncher mean?

I saw tons of awful bankroll management and just general terrible financial decision making in there and all I did was skim.

Work on that and you'll be better off.




I kinda think Gabe would even say the same thing about your little story.




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Oh, never mind .... I'm pretty sure you were leveling and made that whole thing up to be funny or something. It must have taken a bit of time anyway .... I'll give you that. But I didn't read it all.
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08-26-2011 , 02:24 AM
Lego, are you releveling?
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08-26-2011 , 02:26 AM
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Lego, are you releveling?

I was fooled for basically a split second. I edited.
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08-26-2011 , 02:28 AM
If someone levels and you re-level, is that like a 3bet? So 3-level?
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08-26-2011 , 02:41 AM
he triple-flat-leveled into trup QQ.
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08-26-2011 , 05:56 AM
I don't usually chime in but that was one of the greatest levels ever, wp'ed Never Win (your name tilts me to no end since the original NW owes me 10 dimes)
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