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08-16-2011 , 12:34 AM
LOL...
EDDtown,

you are suchhhhhhhhh a huge btch... you won't play now because he was mean to you?! LOLOLOL. gtfo and never come back you delusional, nutless, attention whore
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08-16-2011 , 12:38 AM
Gabe has never intended to play this match from the start, its crystal clear. Even those closest to him must be embarrassed for him...
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08-16-2011 , 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
The obvious issue here is that Samo wants to get the money in escrow before he flies down to play. The only thing I've seen you say about escrow is that once Samo gets there the two of you can escrow the money with Dolan in his box or whatever. IMO, it is perfectly reasonable for Samo to want to have the money escrowed before taking the time and expense to travel.

A second issue is that Samo wants you to provide references for Dolan so that he would feel safe sending him $40,000.


Perhaps the two of you had some miscommunications over the above two issues .... I don't know whether or not you did. But that is the clear issue and this could all be settled very easily. All you have to do is provide some references for Dolan and then arrange to have the money escrowed before Samo flies down. Conversely, Samo can get one of his high stake friends/acquaintances to escrow the money and the two of you would arrange to have that done before he flies out.


There has been some flying off the handle on your part IMO. To be fair Samo has started adding some minor insults to his posts to you as it appears he has gotten increasingly annoyed at what he perceives to be intentional delaying on your part.


I think that if everybody just calmed down and made a good faith effort to solve the two very clearly stated issues above that there is a chance this match could still happen.
Thanks for this post Lego. This is exactly correct - to a tee. After being patient and respectful for such a long time, I finally lost my patience. I still very much want the match to happen, and as you pointed out, the escrow issue is the only thing that is holding it up as far as I am concerned.

Now I really am going to bed. I'll check back here periodically but not frequently. Someone please let me know if he agrees to play.
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08-16-2011 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
The obvious issue here is that Samo wants to get the money in escrow before he flies down to play. The only thing I've seen you say about escrow is that once Samo gets there the two of you can escrow the money with Dolan in his box or whatever. IMO, it is perfectly reasonable for Samo to want to have the money escrowed before taking the time and expense to travel.

A second issue is that Samo wants you to provide references for Dolan so that he would feel safe sending him $40,000.


Perhaps the two of you had some miscommunications over the above two issues .... I don't know whether or not you did. But that is the clear issue and this could all be settled very easily. All you have to do is provide some references for Dolan and then arrange to have the money escrowed before Samo flies down. Conversely, Samo can get one of his high stake friends/acquaintances to escrow the money and the two of you would arrange to have that done before he flies out.


There has been some flying off the handle on your part IMO. To be fair Samo has started adding some minor insults to his posts to you as it appears he has gotten increasingly annoyed at what he perceives to be intentional delaying on your part.


I think that if everybody just calmed down and made a good faith effort to solve the two very clearly stated issues above that there is a chance this match could still happen.

Ill tell you what I will do & only for the purposes of this thread & showing that I am 100% sincere about what I said. I will play someone else that is strictly an online player, but it won't be Samo. I don't care if its Jungleman or whoever as long as they are strictly online. I'm sure he won't care anything about it as its probably small stakes for him. But just for purposes of testing the online/live Matchup.
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08-16-2011 , 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Ya whatever,, You guys are looking through a one pieced lens for sure. Your biased & have no integrity what so ever.
I don't know either of you. I have my opinions on the matter, but so do you, so if I'm biased, then so are you. And what did I say to show that I have no integrity what so ever?
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08-16-2011 , 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Ill tell you what I will do & only for the purposes of this thread & showing that I am 100% sincere about what I said. I will play someone else that is strictly an online player, but it won't be Samo. I don't care if its Jungleman or whoever as long as they are strictly online. I'm sure he won't care anything about it as its probably small stakes for him. But just for purposes of testing the online/live Matchup.
Wouldn't it be easier to just play the guy who has already agreed to fly to your home town and play you?
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08-16-2011 , 12:47 AM
My thing is I would run to the casino tonight & play, I just don't want to talk about it & nit pick escrowing & such. I have a life outside of poker as well & the last thing I want to do is be inconvenienced by having to worry about the details.
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08-16-2011 , 12:47 AM
I can easily vouch for John Dolan

Game on?
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08-16-2011 , 12:48 AM
Why'd anyone take EDDtown seriously, the guy is clearly delusional.
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08-16-2011 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Ill tell you what I will do & only for the purposes of this thread & showing that I am 100% sincere about what I said. I will play someone else that is strictly an online player, but it won't be Samo. I don't care if its Jungleman or whoever as long as they are strictly online. I'm sure he won't care anything about it as its probably small stakes for him. But just for purposes of testing the online/live Matchup.
A man really shouldn't be this pathetically sensitive, samos post was mild. You are nuts.
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08-16-2011 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Samo, It was obvious that you didn't want to play. There's no other reason to insult me like that unless you were trying to piss me off so bad that I wouldn't play.
Let's see....

Who said he would play any online player, only to back down and call it a "figure of speech" when challenged?

Who said he would email with details within a day or so then drag his feet for over a week?

Who said that he has an 80% chance of winning, but then started backing down when the stock market showed some volatility with some unrelated excuse?

Who continues to NOT provide any details of where escrow might be held for this match despite proddings for over a week now?

Not samoleus.
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08-16-2011 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
My thing is I would run to the casino tonight & play, I just don't want to talk about it & nit pick escrowing & such. I have a life outside of poker as well & the last thing I want to do is be inconvenienced by having to worry about the details.
Why are you going to place that is out to cheat you?
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08-16-2011 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
Wouldn't it be easier to just play the guy who has already agreed to fly to your home town and play you?
No, Samo screwed up.

I have obviously made some statements on this thread that a lot of people don't believe. I'm sorry , but I believe all I've done is state what I believe to be true. Regardless of whether or not you think that a live player can't be a huge favorite over a top online player or whether you think online poker is actually real, It's beside the fact that I've never disrepected anyone here until they started insulting me & questioning my character.


My money is always where my mouth is & as I stated I will play someone else if they want to play, but I would never sit at the same table as Samo after disrepecting me.
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08-16-2011 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
My thing is I would run to the casino tonight & play, I just don't want to talk about it & nit pick escrowing & such. I have a life outside of poker as well & the last thing I want to do is be inconvenienced by having to worry about the details.
Well look at it from the other guy's point of view:

He has to take a bunch of time out of his life and spend a bunch of money on a flight and hotel accommodations. He wants to have security that after he spends all this time and money the match will definitely happen. It makes a lot of sense to want the money escrowed first. If the positions were reversed you should be asking for the same thing.


And it really isn't that hard to give or wire the money to the escrow a few weeks before you would have given the escrow the money anyway. Wouldn't you agree?


Personally if I were Samo I would have gone further and explicitly included in the agreement the amount of your escrowed money that I would get to take if I showed up and you wouldn't play.



I really think if you both go about this level headed and in good faith it should be relatively easy to work out.
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08-16-2011 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
No, Samo screwed up.

I have obviously made some statements on this thread that a lot of people don't believe. I'm sorry , but I believe all I've done is state what I believe to be true. Regardless of whether or not you think that a live player can't be a huge favorite over a top online player or whether you think online poker is actually real, It's beside the fact that I've never disrepected anyone here until they started insulting me & questioning my character.


My money is always where my mouth is & as I stated I will play someone else if they want to play, but I would never sit at the same table as Samo after disrepecting me.

If that is the way you are going to go then I guess I'm about done posting here but:


I hope that you realize that pretty much 100% of people will interpret this as you manufacturing an excuse in order to get out of playing him. That will be how you are thought of.

And that is how it looks to me too. Reading through it doesn't appear as if Samo said anything that bad and it appears that you vastly overreacted.


So if that is how you want to end this then I just wanted to make sure you realized that, that is how it will affect how you are perceived.



I implore all to just calm down. This should be easy to work out. It is two simple issues to solve and then all is set.
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08-16-2011 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
Well look at it from the other guy's point of view:

He has to take a bunch of time out of his life and spend a bunch of money on a flight and hotel accommodations. He wants to have security that after he spends all this time and money the match will definitely happen. It makes a lot of sense to want the money escrowed first. If the positions were reversed you should be asking for the same thing.


And it really isn't that hard to give or wire the money to the escrow a few weeks before you would have given the escrow the money anyway. Wouldn't you agree?


Personally if I were Samo I would have gone further and explicitly included in the agreement the amount of your escrowed money that I would get to take if I showed up and you wouldn't play.



I really think if you both go about this level headed and in good faith it should be relatively easy to work out.

Lego , It's not even about that anymore. The guy flat out called me pretty much everything you could think of to insult someone. Its one thing for one of these punk kids that don't know me or I don't know them to joke around & hide behind a computer, but another to actually be someone that people know & do it.
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08-16-2011 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Lego , It's not even about that anymore. The guy flat out called me pretty much everything you could think of to insult someone. Its one thing for one of these punk kids that don't know me or I don't know them to joke around & hide behind a computer, but another to actually be someone that people know & do it.
Well if this is how you are going to approach this then I guess I have nothing else to say other than what I said two posts above this one. Link:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1168
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08-16-2011 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
No, Samo screwed up.

I have obviously made some statements on this thread that a lot of people don't believe. I'm sorry , but I believe all I've done is state what I believe to be true. Regardless of whether or not you think that a live player can't be a huge favorite over a top online player or whether you think online poker is actually real, It's beside the fact that I've never disrepected anyone here until they started insulting me & questioning my character.


My money is always where my mouth is & as I stated I will play someone else if they want to play, but I would never sit at the same table as Samo after disrepecting me.
your character needs to be questioned b/c you clearly refuse to put your money where your mouth is
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08-16-2011 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
My thing is I would run to the casino tonight & play, I just don't want to talk about it & nit pick escrowing & such. I have a life outside of poker as well & the last thing I want to do is be inconvenienced by having to worry about the details.
Ya, wanting escrow to be arranged before flying to your town is nitpicking, good one dude. You have time to post all day long about your ******ed online poker is rigged views, but can't be bothered to comment on escrow despite being asked to do so multiple times. It is obvious to EVERYONE that you never intended to play this match. Yes, everyone.

You're pathetic beyond belief.
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08-16-2011 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by loveinvain
Ya, wanting escrow to be arranged before flying to your town is nitpicking, good one dude. You have time to post all day long about your ******ed online poker is rigged views, but can't be bothered to comment on escrow despite being asked to do so multiple times. It is obvious to EVERYONE that you never intended to play this match. Yes, everyone.

You're pathetic beyond belief.
I swear , you guys are all fckn nuts. I mean seriously. Not only was I going to play, I was even going to let Claudia play him for some. Listen, I play poker everyday & I've played for a lot bigger than what me & samo were going to play for.

Unreal. I even offered to play Jungleman or someone of the same caliber.
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08-16-2011 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
No, Samo screwed up.

I have obviously made some statements on this thread that a lot of people don't believe. I'm sorry , but I believe all I've done is state what I believe to be true. Regardless of whether or not you think that a live player can't be a huge favorite over a top online player or whether you think online poker is actually real, It's beside the fact that I've never disrepected anyone here until they started insulting me & questioning my character.


My money is always where my mouth is & as I stated I will play someone else if they want to play, but I would never sit at the same table as Samo after disrepecting me.
Let me get this straight this is what your are claiming:

-you are a massive favorite vs Samoleus

-he pissed you off and disrespected you

-you have expended a great deal of time and energy setting up this match in order to prove your claims and show you are right

so when you add up all 3 you think the best coarse of action at this point is to refuse the match?

One of 3 conclusions can be drawn from your reaction:

1) you are a huge bitch

2) you don't truly believe you are a favorite

3) you can't afford the match

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08-16-2011 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
I swear , you guys are all fckn nuts. I mean seriously. Not only was I going to play, I was even going to let Claudia play him for some. Listen, I play poker everyday & I've played for a lot bigger than what me & samo were going to play for.

Unreal. I even offered to play Jungleman or someone of the same caliber.
Just like you "offered" to play Samo. Might as well "offer" to play Phil Ivey, King Kong and the Loch Ness Monster.
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08-16-2011 , 02:02 AM
Hey guys I have this fight club in my Mom's basement with my brother and his friends from high school. Anyway we are the best fighters in the world and I'm the best of all of them, I can even beat up Timmy Jones and he's the biggest kid in school AND has ****** strength because he's a Mongoloid. So I will take on anyone in the MMA world and win and prove I am the best! Ha ha even my girlfriend can beat anyone from the MMA! Bcos MMA sucks.

But you have to come to my crappy little basement in this hillbilly town in Tenneesee and if you want me to put up flight money I will use cheap delaying tactics until you become frustrated and then I will get huffy and refuse to fight you but offer to take anyone else instead Brock, Overeem, Fedor it doesn't matter I can beat anyone.

I am the toughest guy in the world and you pathetic losers aren't even prepared to admit it God you're pathetic!
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08-16-2011 , 02:10 AM
I bet the Loch Ness monster is only tough in his loch, he'd lose to Gabe on land.
Samoleus is like Nessie.
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08-16-2011 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
SAMO, CAN YOU READ THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY KEYBOARD. *** OFF

Nobody is going to talk to me like that & come sit a table in front of me without getting their teeth knocked in the back their throat.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Gabe "All Talk" Costner.

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I've requested Mason to close the thread due to all of the obvious insults. I've got more integrity than to continue to post on a thread which a bunch of disrespectful kids.
LOL, no, you don't. You're beyond a joke, a charlatan, a blowhard, and a fake bully. Also, I'm 7 years older than you, Gabe "All Talk" Costner. But you may get your wish in being banned for making overt threats that you can tell your buddies was you getting booted from 2+2 because we can't handle the truth, when the truth is you're a tourney donk at best that ran hot and has delusions of grandeur.

Can't wait to see you in my cash game again, I really can use the $$$. Bring the girl too, we can play that HU4ROLLZ.

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