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08-04-2011 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Deurdy
Lol, of course he played it fine, and his hand even won. So how is it rigged against him?
I'm basically pointing out that he is extremely selective in his thin foil hat views that the software is rigged against him.
If it was rigged against him, how do these hands win, or why is he being dealt AA vs KK? Or is that something the software is even taking into consideration when rigging it against him?
lol since when is limping 52s otb HU fine.

ur not gustav gabe
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08-04-2011 , 10:13 AM
Actually I was joking, I think c/c in that spot is awful. I mean this is 1/2, villain isn't folding anything, you're losing an insane amount of value.
Just because you end up value owning yourself sometimes doesn't mean c/shoving isn't +EV. That's the kind of flawed reasoning live players live and lose money by.
"Oh I might end up VO'ing myself once in a while....check!.....call!"

But yeah, obviously he's just a case of paranoid/schyzophrenia fueled by an extremely selective memory.

At first I was really giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I can now see that he's truly not very smart and probably clinically insane.
And what's that story about making more at 1/2 live than with his financial advising company? Nothing of what he says makes any sense.

Anyway....he'll probably end up finding a way out of this HU match but if he doesn't it's going to be one of the most epic instances of psychological destruction we've ever seen.
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08-04-2011 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
I wish the screen name to remain anonymous, but I was either 1st or tied with Paul wolfe for several months after full tilt opened in 2004 for the most full tilt frequent points. I was on a 28 day winning streak one night when I was playing in short handed 25/50NL . Got set of 8s beat by one pair, matasow had KQ & hit running full, A little later I flopped mid set 7s against crapstain set 8s. This started a downturn In which I ended up losing 15 straight days.

So turned a 28 day winning streak into a 15 day losing streak. Have you ever flipped a coin over 20 times on one side, then flipped 15 to the other. Anyway I knew online poker wanst on the square way before this, but for some reason had a decent account at FT for a while. Over the past 7 years I've been able to win approx 5% of my sessions & they all come in the 1st day after depositing if I hadn't played my account in a few weeks if that tells you anything.
Why keep it anonymous? There is a good chance none of us play on FTP again and I'd guess from your thoughts regarding online 100% chance you won't play again. I am just very curious because I played in those games but it wasn't like it was today in that you knew everyone behind the screen names and I like to link names to faces for nostalgia's sake. You can PM me if you want I'll keep it private.
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08-04-2011 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBuckets
looooool

level?
No, this is something much more delightful than a level. It's a level from someone who doesn't even realize he's a level.
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08-04-2011 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by samoleus
Can we please go back to finalizing the match?
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Originally Posted by samoleus
Can we try to keep the thread about the match so that there is every chance that it actually happens?

EDD, your thoughts? It seems that the parameters of the match have been set aside from finding a place to play.

Have you been looking for a venue or is this match off?
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08-04-2011 , 11:28 AM
Ok, I finally read the first 100 posts of this thread (I don't even know why) after seeing it here for a few weeks.

Why is this thread 9 pages?

This guy's level was made pretty evident over his first ten posts here.

I guess he's kind of funny, saying that live 1/2 is unbeatable because of the rake is pretty rich after saying how his Jedi powers led him to hold the chip lead in the main event one time for a couple minutes, also referring to a "fastpaced fun & gun offense" was moderately amusing.

Is this really worth reading? I'm pretty sure I got the gist of his gimmick from reading the first page.... he's one of those men who stared at goats right?
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08-04-2011 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Deurdy
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I'm basically pointing out that he is extremely selective in his thin foil hat views...
I don't know if this was intentional but either way I believe this phrase perfectly describes the type of level that OP is conducting here

thin foil hat indeed
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08-04-2011 , 11:41 AM
Maybe you should've read more than just #100 posts, before you come to your level conclusions.
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08-04-2011 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Deurdy
Maybe you should've read more than just #100 posts, before you come to your level conclusions.
i've been thinking more and more that this is a very well executed level. it seems more and more likely that gabe has no intentions of finding a venue/dealers for this match.


as well as the fact that he mentions an 80% win rate, that he can beat the best online/live hybrids in the world, and lol play claudia at +130 when logistics for this match aren't even fully set!
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08-04-2011 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ucantcme63
i've been thinking more and more that this is a very well executed level. it seems more and more likely that gabe has no intentions of finding a venue/dealers for this match.


as well as the fact that he mentions an 80% win rate, that he can beat the best online/live hybrids in the world, and lol play claudia at +130 when logistics for this match aren't even fully set!
I don't see how this is a level, seeing Daliman's earlier input, next to his thread from already 5 years ago. It's much sooner attention whoring than a level imho.
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08-04-2011 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Deurdy
I don't see how this is a level, seeing Daliman's earlier input, next to his thread from already 5 years ago. It's much sooner attention whoring than a level imho.
so in the meantime can we start setting a betting line on whether or not this match will happen?

i'm taking wagers at

-600 NO
+450 YES


jk, but that's prob what the line should be
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08-04-2011 , 02:00 PM
I agree with Samoleus and we should focus on the HU match. Gabe is obviously a skilled player and a big winner, far be it for any of us to doubt him. We should take his charges seriously.

Also, Gabe, let us know if you'll take action on you vs. Samoleus and/or Samoleus vs. Claudia. With sites down to U.S. players, we obviously can't transfer monies on poker sites so let's set up something else.
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08-04-2011 , 06:50 PM
You guys are like a bunch of little kids & clueless ones at that. As far as I know we will be playing, not sure what the talk is about. Samoleus has my number & I assume when we decide on a place he will let me know when he wants to come down.


There will be no webcams etc. so don't get your hopes up. Were not getting paid to give secrets away on TV. And no I will not be laying 3/1 on myself since there are so many clueless here that would give me 125+ which I won't be taking action on either since secretly I was just trying to run the line up on myself so that I could bet ALL IN on Samoleus. That's been my sinister plan all along.

But if any of you guys are so action hungary, I may just set up a permanent station for online players, And if your like 21, from Europe & wear a backpack, I might even leave milk & cookies for you, but don't forget to bring your money
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08-04-2011 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
But if any of you guys are so action hungary, I may just set up a permanent station for online players, And if your like 21, from Europe & wear a backpack, I might even leave milk & cookies for you, but don't forget to bring your money
I'm 25 and American but I'll show up with one of these stuffed full of cash if you'll play 100/200 NL with me.

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08-04-2011 , 07:48 PM
so cute!
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08-05-2011 , 01:28 AM
This really is the thread that keeps on giving. OP's unintentional comedy is gold. Even the spelling is hilarious.
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08-05-2011 , 01:55 AM
top live players >>> online players >>> most live players
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08-05-2011 , 03:30 AM
OMG plz accept ike one time.
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08-05-2011 , 06:09 AM
i play online 99%.
but from my shallow live experience at low level i must say:
the avg NL-online-grinder sucks donkeyballs when facing solid competition.
internet-players at live-tables were lolbad in general when i played (~20 nights NL500).

you just dont make a contibet in your first raised pot and they label you as ******.
from there on they spazz 3-bet and fold with like 20bb left in a 3-bet pot when u bet-raise the flop oop.
i gave them false tells so obv, i was hardly able to stop myself from smiling /laughing,
they hang thereselves happily like that.

just a tiny in a box / vacuum what i say, but it takes more to play real poker than math, 3-betting and stuff.

you need to have life-experience, and i dont mean live-poker,
i mean you have to know the way the world goes.

no wonder so many online-players cant argument rationaly even on an internet forum.
if you let a person face his weakness he will get mad, if he is an unconcious human being.

funny thing is, the way our world goes make it the new standard to be a nerd.
i already see people never looking up from their i-phones, pads, berrys and handys.

at the tables you can spot the suckers just by the time they watch(,) theyre technique tool(s).

they miss to get information about other players, instead they post twitter bs.
max of 2 sentences, writing tl;dr on here, take adderall for their ADHS,
and moan they are the top notch, its just ridic.

their focus is to not focus on any single thing, and thats how you get mentally ill.

anyway, online players dominate the most simple games like NL-MTTs, just due to their bigger amount of starters and bigger amont of hands they played. its math, you know it .

lets see how many players who started online only will play the biggest mixed-games live one day,
i bet not so much. you wont become an allround pokerplayer playing 24 tables NLHE.

id love to be in the usa these days, im sure the first 6-12 month after black friday are like stealing candy from a baby with all the 24 tablers who try live-poker now.

they will adjust and one day learn to not be read like a book, but it takes time,
and money ofc.
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08-05-2011 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Meech
top live players >>> online players >>> most live players
this is so much on spot. excellent.
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08-05-2011 , 07:24 AM
fwiw i put eddtown allin in a live tourney a couple years ago with kk, and he called with qq.

then he condescendingly said "i knew you had KK, i could see it in your eyes"

seemed contradictory.

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08-05-2011 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by HU4holes
i play online 99%.
but from my shallow live experience at low level i must say:
the avg NL-online-grinder sucks donkeyballs when facing solid competition.
internet-players at live-tables were lolbad in general when i played (~20 nights NL500).
blablabla generalisations cool starry bra.
The avg NL-live-grinder also sucks donkeyballs when facing solid competition.
DUCY none of your comments add value to the argument?
Thread is about top live players against top online players. Not about average players against whatever type of competition.
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08-05-2011 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
You guys are like a bunch of little kids & clueless ones at that. As far as I know we will be playing, not sure what the talk is about. Samoleus has my number & I assume when we decide on a place he will let me know when he wants to come down.


There will be no webcams etc. so don't get your hopes up. Were not getting paid to give secrets away on TV. And no I will not be laying 3/1 on myself since there are so many clueless here that would give me 125+ which I won't be taking action on either since secretly I was just trying to run the line up on myself so that I could bet ALL IN on Samoleus. That's been my sinister plan all along.

But if any of you guys are so action hungary, I may just set up a permanent station for online players, And if your like 21, from Europe & wear a backpack, I might even leave milk & cookies for you, but don't forget to bring your money
So how long do you figure it will be until you "decide on a place"?
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08-05-2011 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Deurdy
The avg NL-live-grinder also sucks donkeyballs when facing solid competition.
DUCY none of your comments add value to the argument?
Thread is about top live players against top online players. Not about average players against whatever type of competition.
yes, you are right. i just used thread to ramble and brag, sry.
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08-05-2011 , 11:28 AM
At first I thought it was a level then I thought EDD was just insane, whoever said this is just attention whoring is spot on.

Unless Im mistaken PTR says you were playing some 0.02/0.05 and just gambling by the looks of it at 1/2 HU under a year ago.

I sincerely hope this match happens but from your unwillingness to reveal your username and from PTR I d say there is next to no chance.

And again I think you should get help, is it not baffling to you that so many people offer solid evidence contrary to your wild baseless claims and you continue to argue against everyone? \The scariest bit was where u cited that guy as evidence, and he jumped in to say that actually he d been telling u u were mistaken, then u started on him???!?!?

I hope you get help, do yourself a favour stop replying to people arguing with you, set up the match with samoleous or just stop coming into this thread.

All that said it s kinda funny in a car crash way to watch this unfold.

Its unreal.

If it is a level and u deliberately put in parody not parity then wp.
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