I LOLed.

Joseph, Were probably very similar in math abilities, I scored the highest in my school on test used to formulate a math team wich I refused so lets not go circles on this, It almost sounds like the ridiculous argument of whether or not poker is a skill game.


I don't think either of us would be playing if we didn't think we had a good edge, that maybe different on the craps table.

Samoleus, If you are really intent on playing then let me know when you want to come down & come up with some type of structure & if it looks fair then we will go with it. My only request is that this will not be done inside a casino.

Also where will you be coming from? I will send you a private message with contact

EDDtown: "I know just what to do, Ill put in absurd shady sounding rule that he will never accept and then still seem like the bigger man when he declines!"

you can't be a real person

Not the spelling team?

Why does this not surprise me? Seems like a persistent theme with you;

1. Accomplish something impressive.
2. Someone tries to reward/sponsor you.
3. You decline.
4. ????
5. Profit(?).

Obv you are pure as driven snow, and can't have your sterling reputation sullied by things such as sponsorships, math competitions, or facts.

To be fair, he has always held this position, given the fact that casinos use shuffling machines to change the values of the cards(rather than just arrange them in the order they want, which would be MUCH easier but much less awesome), or just have the dealers cheat with false shuffles, etc.

Completely reasonable, in Gabe "All Talk" Costner's version of reality.

it's almost like he gets a high off of the things he "thinks" he's capable of. enough to the point where he's delusional enough to say " very similar math abilities (against a math major) just because i scored the highest in my school (probably high school) on some test" = "i scored eight 3point shots vs lebron james while he only scored seven in a quick shootout. i therefore have the same abilities to compete against the best."

Gabe Costner, you need some serious help dude.

I often wonder just what satisfaction people get from being obnoxious and rude. My guess is that it's a combination of jealousy (I seriously doubt the majority of the posters ITT have won anything close to what Gabe' won in one tournament) and contempt for someone that's sucessful yet can be fallible in some of their thinking.

I'm happy to see Gabe took Somoleus up on the challenge, not that it makes any difference to me who wins but at least it might shut up a bunch of lil girls that don't have anything better to do than troll threads.

It's not surprising at all that Samoleus is one of the few people in the thread that's conducted themselves like a decent guy but of course he is obviously confident in his skills so he has no reason to act like he's 12.

I wish you both good luck and look forward to hearing the details.

Thanks , At least there are a few here that can see what's going on. It's pretty obvious. Part of it is jeaulosy, part of it is them getting their feathers ruffled because of my opening statement to start the thread & some of them are the same shills that have been coming here for years trying to discredit me because I said that online poker can be & has been cheated which I obviously believe thus turning down over 60k in sponsership money.



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so ed ur saying the best 10 players in the world are all live players.... but they have learned all the skills that an online player has as well as all the physical tells and the like that they learned as a live player...... so how are the best 10 players in the world not just "hybrids", as you call them.... or as the rest of us call them.... just awesome all around players, with great all around skills, not just math or live reads.. but the whole lot....

ur argument is not "the best live players are better than the best online players", ur argument is "the best poker players are better than the best online only players" which just makes sense....

funny thread, id love it more if u meant all the hilarity that has ensued, sadly it seems the chances of that are nil.

I won't argue with this. The most intelligent players that have the most experience & have incorporated game theory as well as physical variables into their games are going to be the best. However it is possible to learn game theory playing strictly live but it's pretty tough to learn physical tells online. Ivey , Durrr etc are hybrid players.

One thing I will say is that not all live players are created equal, Once you figure out how to interpret certain things it will carry the game to a new level



Not sure what you meant with the last paragraph

To be fair to Gabe, Samoleus did, in one of his original challenge posts, say that he would play outside of a casino with hired dealers.

I think Gabe has some serious issues and will be a dog in this match but if it comes off it will be really interesting.

Also, @DFish, what's the story about this New Orleans game and tech that you have seen? Do you give Gabe's laser show theory any credence at all?

This thread is gold. Judging by some of the replies itt, is the op a known live reg or something? Its absurd to think that someone so delusional on so many levels can even be a breakeven player

you all just need to get a room, have a crazed man orgy and get over each others ego.

For the love of god - -everyone quit posting

OP is Gabe Costner. He's done pretty well in some tourneys and claims to be God's gift to poker at cash.

That's what makes it so much fun. He's probably a good enough player that he can't really be totally dismissed but at the same time, about 50% of what he says is so, I don't know a more polite way to say it, delusional.

He seems sincere and is reportedly nice enough, he just has some really out there ideas. I really hope he plays Samoleus.

LULLLLLLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Extreme case of illusory superiority ITT. I guess they never talked about coefficient of variation in your intro stats class.

And please post the stats for us.

cliffs from OP: Live players can beat online players at live play.

(of course any online player who plays live now, like Tom Dwan gets counted as a live player, cuz they are good at live poker)

OP's statement is mixed. Some comments are accurate and some are not.

There was a game in New Orleans where it was discovered they were using cards with some sort of markings on the back that were only visible when wearing these special contact lenses, so effectively the guys in on it could see what every card was from the backs. This however has ABSOLUTELY no bearing on his theory that casinos have lasers changing the cards to cold deck him. I was merely saying I do acknowledge that some people do cheat, and some technology does exist, but Gabe seems to think this means it is more likely the casinos are cheating/have cheated him out of money, which is not the case.

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After reading (parts of) this thread, I'm pretty sure the variance referred to is the reason you luckboxed $1m in the first place

thread is like watching two 6 year olds in their own backyard throwing insults back and forth over the 3 foot fence seperating their yards...

This is completely false, and I couldn't disagree more vehemently. There are at LEAST five 6 year olds in this thread. For my part, I am 40, but for purposes of this thread, I am 5.

sir, I apologize