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After reading this thread, I'd say this is a mortal lock. Anyways, reading this thread brought back memories of the you vs. EC10 thread. That was back when I first started lurking/posting, good times.

Known Gabe for years, it just keeps getting better.

in before samoleus offeres to pay Gabe an hourly to play him. 0 % chance Gabe will accept the challenge or his girlfriend will accept Dalimans.

Well Fish since you chimed in, Can you at least confirm that in the hand where Claudia was head up Pius Heinz & 5 bet him preflop with K5 off & he 6 bet her back that I said he didn't have it & wished she would have 7 bet shoved all in for 2.5 mil. I said this because I was watching the moment he talked himself into coming back over. It was body language. Then he showed her a 9. This might prove my point that there are more variables to this game than what you can learn through math & online. My only point to the thread. Some have taken this the wrong way as & saying I have talked down online players, I have never taken anything away from online players as I know there are many angles discovered on these forums, but someone that has learned both sides & studied this part of the game will always have an edge.

Yeah, you are just misunderstood, Gabe. Nothing in this thread has anything to do with your ridiculous claims, circular logic, and refusal to accept a very reasonable (and lucrative, with your massive edge) offer.

I once played a hand against a live pro, and put him on AK. I was right.

Ivey, Dwan, Antonius and Cates are the four biggest online winners to the best of my knowledge.... I'll take all four against four other 'live' players...

First off, SGT. Please quit following me around. Are the sites paying you to make 30 + useless post a day, if not then I'll be the 1st to let you know that you are contributing nothing here & bring the overall IQ of the forum down just by being present.


Secondly, Ivey is a live player that plays online. Durr is also an accomplished live player & utilizes a live table presence & is aware that there are other variables. Thats why he stares down opponents. Im sure Durrr has been coached in this if he didnt learn on his on. Cates also is aware of this since he blinks 500 times in a hand in an attempt to disguise tells. Again only proving my point. Having said that I do believe Cates gives a lot of info away & could easily be exploited.


I also believe of the 4 , Ivey & Durr may be the only 2 that are good at reading others tells.


And the fact that they are the biggest winners doesn't mean they are the most consistent or best but rather that they play the highest stakes.

just passin' through, don't want to get sucked up in this ******ed thread

Gabe, how do you have the balls to even post in this thread when A. you said you weren't posting here anymore and B. you refuse to even acknowledge Samoleus accepting your challenge and laying out extremely convenient/generous terms?

Do you even have a basic grasp of language? The biggest winners at the highest stakes would be anyone's definition of the best.

Cliffs:

durrrr is hybrid

JUST READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH. GOLD. GOLD GOLD. GOLD. GONNA READ THE REST OF THE FOUR PAGES NOW FROM HERE. GOLD GOLD. GOLD JERRY. GOLD

lol, i doubt he did that on purpose. take a look down at your keyboard

EDD, you need to quote/respond to samoleus's challenge or stop posting in this thread

While I will back this up and say you and I both thought she should've gone with it there based on the stacks and how he was looking, although in all fairness you have to admit it would be hard to get a really good physical read from the 15 feet or so away we were behind the rail when the hand happened.

In short I would say you should play Samoleus or everything you're standing up for in this thread will lose nearly all credibility.

its 2011, some new account makes a "live vs online" pros thread, and some of the highest caliber talent on 2p2 weighs in.

Uncanny.

Fish, pious was in the 1 seat & we were next to the rail, so only a few feet away, plenty to watch the things I watch.

I've briefly probably mentioned to you over the years a couple of the things I watch & I'm sure some of our the group we used to play with know some as well. I think I remember telling you about a hand where I called Jarard at IP Biloxi for 5k on river in a 5 5 10 omaha game with an 8 on a 258kk board, I had 6789 & called him only because I thought he played the hand like had a draw , then on river he looked stone cold. I remember telling you why I called.


As far as the challenge, I never made a challenge to him so not sure what everyone is talking about when they said I backed out. You remember 3 years ago when I went bust daytrading, lost every dollar. So even though I've done well the past couple of years, it doesn't mean I'm rolled to play extremely high stakes which I'm assuming he wants to play if worth his time to travel. So as a poker player that plays for a living, why should I risk a big chunk of my roll in a spot against a very good player when there are other spots.

Me not playing him doesn't disprove anything I've said & if I lose credibility to a bunch of posters at 2 +2 that don't know me, then oh well. The biggest mistake I've made is actually creating this thread & informing otherwise sheephead posters that there is more to the game.

You aren't risking anything. He's been almost solely an online player, and as such, he probably has massive tells that you will be able to read very easily. This is basically free money due to your massive live edge.

And if money is tight surely you can get some of the other best live players to back you given how easy of a match up this is for you. Just tell them you are playing an internet player I am sure they will line up to get in on the action.

Wait, Gabe called with a bluffcatcher when opponent played his hand like a draw?

Holy ****, this is monumental, groundbreaking stuff that could revolutionize the poker world. Thanks for sharing your amazing secret.

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You don't need logic when you have tells.

Yeah, she should have 7 bet shoved and been called by 99. What was that you were saying in this thread about online players 3 and 4 betting too much, and creating pots that are too large and can be picked off by players like you? So click-it-back 5 betting K5off vs a UTG raiser from the SB is fine though, except for the fact that she should have 7 bet it....

Really, this is groundbreaking stuff. Helluva read by her. Her opponents didn't adjust to it AT ALL, obv.

Daliman, Your so far behind in this conversation its amazing. We are several steps ahead of your thinking process, This was an amazing hand that claudia played.


She had the heart to 5 bet again from blind with k5 after being 4 bet because she went with her live read. She wouldn't have done this in an online game, she was pretty sure he didn't have it.


And I doubt very seriously he had 99 or he prob flats the 3 bet in position. Pretty sure he had complete trash & was using UTG & his image of showing down huge hands over the past hour to his advantage. He may have even picked up something on Claudia, not sure. But I saw when he almost mucked after she 5 bet, then I could see as he talked himself into the raise.

By the way, did i say that she's a much much better player than you.

Again, helluva read that he almost mucked, but then 6bet, yet she still blew it. Quite amazing that she decides to do it vs his UTG open also, when he is almost never going to fold, (LOL_3BET_SIZING) But yes, we know how you think she's better than me from playing with me for 2 hours, even though I have been supporting a family by playing for over 7 years now and have over 500k hands of 10-20NL and 100k hands on 25-50 NL played at over 3BB/100. As I stated numerous times before, let me know when you are coming back, we can play, and you can put up your 2-1 on her vs me. Then I'll take 3-1 vs you after.

BTW, I am now going to take the liberty of bequeathing a nickname upon you.

Gabe "All Talk" Costner. Let's see if we can get that one to stick, 2+2!