In before epic bf/gf downswing (you know, regression to the mean).

so take ya boy up on his challenge! he said he'd come to wherever you want to play!


With approbation,

ucantcme63

Oh yeah that's right. In addition to being the worlds best poker player you are awesome at day trading, how could I forget. I guess the day trading was online as opposed to live, is that it?

You said you were done with this thread, I'm amused to see that it isn't so.

Carry on.

Costner gonna Costner, imo

Cordially yours:

A Noble baudib

Lmao.

What stage of poker will these 50 online vs 50 live players play at? And is durrr considered an online player or live player? Are there hybrid players? Are sunglasses allowed? Will there be candy?

You're proposed experiment is so general an unrefined.

I agree with some of your points but you need heaps of clarification, more arguements, examples, comparisons, etc.

honest question, are you serious?

presumably to prove your point (as well as the fact that you can extract more money out of any game than any other player if the cards break even)?

come on man with the spelling mistakes. also, you have not backed up your OP at all. you avoid responding to any reasonable criticisms or objections to your claims, and if you do respond it is with more hilarious blanket statements or unverifiable claims.

can you please explain? honestly, will you please explain? this statement implies that you would NOT play any live poker player any time in any setting (in fact not close considering he will be more than accommodating) as well as that you do NOT back up what you say.

i would really appreciate a response to this or any of the other numerous similar posts in this thread.


Graciously,

ucantcme63

The only thing I said about daytrading was that it is extremely tough, much tougher than poker, It also takes a ton of discipline & with up to 12 x leverage, an 8% move against you can wipe you out. I never said that I was the most disciplined person in the world, but I have learned some lessons, Just like Mike in Rounders & most any other poker player thats played for a living will tell you there are many pitfalls, most fall to sports & pitgames. Mine so happen to be daytrading. The bad thing Is I was right & had I not been sold out 2 hours before close, my position would have made over a million. The amount of leverage I took out was the worst decision I've ever made & still regret it to this day, Me & claudia actually split over it for a few months. It was a learning experience.

This is freaking hilarious. DUCY?

OP, having played online and live both extensively, albeit as rec player/supplementing my income and not as a pro or whatever, I do agree with the some of what you say but I think it comes down to whether or not you believe online poker & live poker are similar enough to be comparable if that makes sense? In other words, apples vs. oranges, or apples to apples? its pretty obvious that online results don't necessarily translate into live and vice versa, so I think you need to look at that and see if there are enough differences between the two to compare two players in the top of each catagory.

From the tone of your post you are saying that live players are "better" and I guess we can assume you feel live poker is truely poker, while online is not "real poker" etc but again, I don't see how you compare a live griding ledgend vs. a online grinder. They are proficient at two different things.

Not sure why people can't just accept that live and online are just vastly different and just because you are weak at one, or great at one, or whatever it should correlate or that anyone is superior etc

Another player from Mississippi that I forgot to mention yesterday is Mathew Culberson AKA "Cub". Hes a great example of this. 3 years ago when I had the most final tables, he finished 2nd along with david pham. Hes a great player & always a cash winner in 5 10 & 10 20NL games. Hes beyond broke now, not from poker, but sports & craps, buying 10k watches etc. Working an oil rig in North Dakota, One day we will see him on the felt again.

Just because hes working an oil rig, doesn't mean he couldn't beat 99% of the players on this forum

Pardo ,

I'm not even saying live players are better than online. I will admit most live players are average to bad & many of the good ones have an online background. I will admit that the average online player is better than the average live player that is not a hybrid. That's why online players can win live is because they only have to beat average competition to win.

People are misunderstanding what I'm saying.

What I did say that many don't understand Is that when we get past the average live player into the very top echelons, (world class elite players). There is a huge gap in skill level, much higher than your top online players, because these players also know online skills & math theory, but also have mastered (or at least enough to get a big edge) body language. I can beat pretty much anyone if the cards run average if they are unaware of what I'm doing. That's why the top 10 players will always be live players.

Op your funny, who cares about who is the best online or live. To be a complete player you have to master both.

You have no idea how the top live players in the world think or play. You don't even understand the (very basic) concept of sample size.

Wow just read the whole thread. EDD a few things:

-samoleus was most likely being so 'open minded' just to convince you to play him. considering his normal stakes and the stakes he's offering to play im guessing he thinks he has a HUGE edge against you live
-what do you mean it's not worth your time to play him? he can fly to your city and play you for any stakes you want

Do yourself a favour and realise that nobody is buying your reasons for backing out. Everyone can see that you got called out and now you are pussing out. Pathetic

edit: normall wouldn't post that because of ruining samo's action, but it's clear as day that EDD will never play anyway

Fulzgold, I got a pretty good idea how you think, Not much goes on up there huh buddy?


I've played with most of them, including a short handed PLO game with Durrr a few years ago at Rio.

And like I said, I've played as many live hands as anyone over the past 10 years which includes the modern era of NL holdem since before then casinos only spread Limit.

SoLost, what is it with you guys, I believe you actually have to agree to something before you can back out of it. I never said I wouldn't play him, however I'm not the one making the offer.


If I ask you to go jump off a fn bridge, could I say you backed out & are a pussy.


Some of you guys are so immature

[x] epic thread delivers epic unintentional leveling

5 star thread, would read again.

None of this means you are any good. In fact the more you post, the more it becomes pretty clear you're just another delusional live player riding variance and thinking it means something significant. Great players are extremely intelligent. Call me Sherlock Holmes but I'm not sure you're a qualifier, judging by your logic ITT.

Good luck buddy, you'll need it. (esp if you ever put your money where you're mouth is)

This thread could actually be used a good experiment in human nature. The stockmarket pretty much always fade the majority of people, 1% of the traders make money off the 99% that try. The crowd always believes each is right & always ends up getting schooled by the minority. This thread is a good example of how that works. 1 Person provides logical reasoning & results behind analyses, Yet the crowd gets emotional & uses illogical reasoning to conclude their opinions.

The majority of idiots is usually wrong vs. a small group of intelligent people. Many of you here posting opinions should do more thinking & less talking

so much fail

EDD,

If you'd play anyone at anytime, surely you'd play an online player flying to your doorstep for any amount of money you want. If what you're saying in this thread is true, samoleus has probably given you one of the most profitable propositions you've had in poker in a long time.

I live 1000 yards from a casino, I played there last night, Why would playing him be one of my more profitable situations?

Are you serious? Think of the highest stakes you're willing to play. Does that game run constantly in your casino? Samoleus will play you for those stakes for as long as you want, all day every day.

I mean dude, you literally said you'd play any online player any time, and then one challenged you in a scenario where you don't have to travel any distance to play him but yet now you'd rather play in your local casino....