Much like the court jester in mediaeval times, the normal laws are relaxed for the clown, so he may continue to caper and talk gibberish for our amusement.

Do you really want him to be banned?

No way!

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How come he's not calling for your head too? (banhammer)

I don't know that he's ever (or ever will) explained this, and I know this question has crossed my mind a couple of times.

I just quit asking questions, because every time I do he only answers what he wants to answer. I'm still waiting on a logical response for why a professional, who surely hears worse things at the table on a daily basis, was unable to shrug off Samo's "insults" and take such a +EV spot as someone willing to come fly to play him as a huge underdog.

Would this make it 4 times that he's threatened to stop responding in this thread and will eventually respond anyways?

SGT. I most certainly do not hear things worse than what SAMO said on a daily basis, If I did I'd never step foot in a casino & I imagine I'd get 86d when I did since I would have already been in a fight. There's no amount of money worth having to sit in front of a weirdo dork that's insulted me numerous times without being able to kick his teeth in. It's the same way with the sponsorship money I turned down. There is NO amount of money worth losing my integrity.

no. although many people have commented on the hypocritical nature of what you are describing, Gabe has not explained anything about why he plays in casinos that he believes are cheating him.




pretty much this




perfect example of EDD avoiding the question about infrared lasers and why he still chooses to go to casinos. instead he gives us a subtle version of an excuse that really doesn't even answer SGT RJ's question, and of course sprinkles it generously with some comical irrationality.

As far as the laser thing, This is being tossed around by a bunch of posters not actually understanding what they're talking about so I will just address this right quick, but I'm not going to post anymore about it in this thread or answer anymore questions since I tend to get banned everytime I do.


Basically casino technology companies have patented an idea to have the playing card games inside the casino be facilitated with an RNG rather than using normal playing cards that are handshuffled or shuffled by machine. The cards would be distributed in either manner but the actual shuffle means nothing since the cards are actually programmed & optically viewable as other cards, In other words switchable from one to another.

As crazy as some of you think this is, the technology has been available to do this for years using the exact same cards as the casinos use now. Cellulose Acetate. You could not tell the difference with the naked eye as the cards are layered from the molecular level, molecular films. Cellulose esters can be structered & layered in such a way to resemble liquid crystal or bichromal molecules & using a certain wavelength of electromagnetic, or light of a certain pattern. Different indicia or card values can be shown on the cards. Theres actually more than one way this can be done, but some wouldn't resemble the playing cards being used.


Here is part of one of the patents I'm referring too:


wherein said carrier members carry a light sensitive material and wherein said indicia are displayed by subjecting the light sensitive material to a light source.

53. Apparatus according to claim 52 wherein said light sensitive material comprises a photochromatic coating and wherein said indicia are displayed when exposed to a light pattern corresponding to said indicia.

54. Apparatus according to claim 52 wherein said light sensitive material responds to a particular light polarization to display particular card indicia.

55. Apparatus according to claim 52 wherein said light sensitive material is sensitive to light of a particular frequency or frequencies.

56. Apparatus according to claim 52 wherein said image only appears for a certain period of time such that when re-exposed to a different light pattern, a new image showing a new indicia is displayed on the carrier members.

57. Apparatus according to claim 52 wherein said image is removed by exposing the light sensitive material to light.



Here is part of another patent: This one is pretty long & decribes the actual RNG & how it is used to determine card flow by itentifying each card with RFID etc.



the playing card media may take the form of existing playing cards, from which the playing card value markings will be erased, prior to being reformed or otherwise generated. In some embodiments, the playing card media may take the form of a fiber based media, for example card stock, vellum, or polymer based media. In some embodiments, the playing card media takes the form of an active media, for example a form of electronic or "e-paper", smart paper, and/or ink code, which allows the formation and erasure of markings via electrical, magnetic, or electromagnetic radiation.

[0137] Smart paper is a product developed by Xerox Palo Alto Research Center, of Palo Alto, Calif. The smart paper consists of a flexible polymer containing millions of small balls and electronic circuitry. Each ball has a portion of a first color and a portion of a second color, each portion having an opposite charge from the other portion. Applying a charge causes the balls to rotate within the polymer structure, to display either the first or the second color. Charges can be selectively applied to form different ones or groups of the balls to from the respective markings 154-160 on the playing cards 108. The markings 154-160 remain visible until another charge is applied. Alternatively, the playing card handling system 120c can be adapted to employ color-changing inks such as thermochromatic inks (e.g., liquid crystal, leucodyes) which change color in response to temperature fluctuations, and photochromatic inks that respond to variations in UV light.

I don't doubt that this tech exists, I just don't understand why the casinos would go to something like that, it seems like a really expensive way to replace reg playing cards.

The cards would still be dealt, thus wear and tear, I don't get the upside.

Casey, As I said, There is much more to this that I'm not going to talk about here, but I agree the whole Idea is just bizarre. None the less, Casino Tech companies have patented & pursued this idea. The proof is the patents themselves. I have talked to the Head of Gaming control board in Nevada about this & he admits to having been involved in the patent because he was VP of Bally Tech at the time

The upside is the potential to cheat, obviously.

But given that you believe this is true, Gabe, why do you play in any casino, as you claim to do? You claim to play every night, and you also have discussed playing in Vegas. If you think the casinos are capable of cheating you, why do you play in them? Are there certain ones you trust or have investigated?

And I seriously doubt you've never heard worse at a poker table than what Samo said, which was pretty mellow all things considered. I doubt I have even a twentieth of the live experience you do, and yet I've heard much, much worse than what Samo said (especially given that his statements were grounded in fact and exasperation rather than malice). I usually hear the equivalent or worse almost every time I play; all it takes is one irritated person claiming another player is a donk or a luckbox to hear an insult.

This could lead people to assume you are either lying about your standards being that high, lying about not hearing worse at a poker table, or lying about being a professional. Any of which are all well and good, but the fact that any other professional would be drooling at the chance to play someone they believe they have an 80% edge against leads most readers to believe that you actually had zero intention of playing Samo or anyone else in order to back up your claim that you could beat any online player, any time.

no disrespect or insult meant at all, but the question was about why you continue to play at said casinos if you believe you can, and implied you will, be easily cheated? being possibly cheated was the reason you gave that a casino would be an unacceptable venue for a HU match with a member of 2p2.

Gabe, like I said I'm not questioning that the tech exists, I just don't see the upside. I mean they're not going to go into something like this just for cheating purposes, so looking at it from a cost containment perspective it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Maybe I'm missing something as to how they intend to use the technology.

Edit: I'm operating from the stand point that no one is investing in this technology for the sole purpose of cheating and that using the technology for cheating isn't the original intent to spend a ton of $$ on something like this.

so you would feel like you have no integrity if you play someone that has insulted you HU?


quoting samo's post that gave Gabe his excuse to make backing out official in 3 parts

samo starts by stating that he is done waiting for 'All Talk' to agree to the terms of a match and is frustrated by the time it is taking to settle on standard issues. he names off a few things that 'All Talk' has said in this thread that he believes are completely absurd.

no insults in this paragraph either. although his tone towards 'All Talk' is obviously annoyed/frustrated, this paragraph basically consists of explaining why he is, most would say reasonably, annoyed/frustrated.


that's the entirety of the post that qualifies as the worst insult Gabe has ever received in the poker world, and the reason he could never sit at a table with samo unless he had the opportunity to fight him after. in fact, the bolded are the only parts in this ENTIRE THREAD where samo directly insults you. besides these words, not only has he refrained from insulting you or even calling your arguments ridiculous as everyone else in the thread has, but he has been excessively polite with every single post.


and if you haven't heard much, MUCH worse than

"I am sick and tired of wasting my time with this pathetic excuse of a man. Gabe, you have made a mockery of yourself. There is no avoiding the fact that you are a tin-hat wearing lunatic who will never be any more than comic relief: a laughingstock in the poker world "

at the poker tables MANY times in your experiences, it's hard to believe you play live as much as you claim. and i don't doubt at all that you play live as much as you claim, just that you have heard much worse insults whether or not they were directed at you. i mean there isn't even a hint of profanity in the post you claim is the worst insult that has even been hurled at you in the poker world. he obviously just let his frustration get the better of him, which a few pages later he readily admitted.

Bingo

BTW, For everyone else, Notice that I'm only responding to people with legitimate questions now.

lol that one word reply wasn't even in response to a question, and if casey had phrased his post, 'Am I missing something with regard to how they intend to use the technology,' your response would not have answered or explained anything he was inquiring about. it was a one word, ambiguous opinon.

but i have a legitimate question:

why do you play in casinos that you believe can use this technology to cheat you? you have stated directly they have the technology to cheat you and implied they are willing to cheat you by saying that the technology was a reason for the HU match not to be held in a casino. add to this that in the beginning of the thread you claimed that you did not like to play in casinos because of the possibility, if not certainty, of being cheated by the new technology.

how is that not a legitimate question?

one of those has to be a legitimate question

I agree with the OP. But I'm glad DDDtown said it. I would have been eaten alive had I said that!

There are plenty of people that agree, There just afraid to say it for fear of ridicule.

Ucantcme, It isn't even your questions anymore, You lost me about 1500 post ago when your motivations of insult became clear. So you can stop waisting your time. I will answer 0 questions you have.

Yea, I've noticed that ridicule seems to be the mantra here!

I used to let it get to me more trying to figure out what exactly was wrong with people, then I finally started to realize over the years that most of the intelligent rational minded posters that were providing logical debates, input or had legitimate questions to other posters left the forums because of having to deal with NVG tards. So what has happened is that this forum has gradually been taken over by ******s.

Obviously that doesn't summarize everyone, just 80%. Some of the lurkers that read & dont post much are not like that, but anytime you see someone with 15k post, You can pretty much assume they have nothing better to do but chime in on things that have no idea about.

The strategy forums or math & science etc will be different, but NVG where the majority of post are made is definately a group of tards as a whole

So you have proof OLP is rigged. Or is making criminal accusations against others without proof not apart of integrity. Like if i said you're a thief with no proof would that reflect on my integrity?

So much so that I told them what they could do with their sponsership offer

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Ya kind of missed the point.