Probably should have asked to borrow more, right? Really planning to go play an Omaha game with only one BI in her pocket?

Its still mathmatical, but what I was implying is that it is deeper than most online players play where they buy in certain stack sizes & exploit an oppents range based on his stack size etc. Theres much more flexibility in being creative & developing strategies that create larger pots where the real tells come into play. That is why my live game will be unorthodox compared to some online players. A lot of my strategy involves getting the pot large enough to be able to read players.

Thats why talking about if someone played a hand correctly or not in a live game maybe irrelevant to their strategy. I play hands completely different in a live game & some of the things I do or not going to be orthodox. Sometimes I may limp a bad hand upfront planning to watch the back end of the table, If I think they are raising a multiway hand like KQS etc to build a pot, I may repop them with 23s to get them out or to get it HU just where I can watch them, If I think they missed the flop I will continue to bet.

no substance huh? have you seeen all the posts where people quote the ridiculous illogical things you say? We basically disprove you and you can never even come up with a response.

btw we really need to keep this ALL TALK nickname going.

seriously though, just provide ANY reasonable evidence defending your conclusions. or just post unreasonable evidence defending them. this thread was way better when you were doing that.



can someone help me with a list of conclusions Gabe has made based on absolutely nothing:

top 10 LIVE are better than top 10 ONLINE (definitions needed, which EDD will never agree to unless they satisfy this thesis, regardless of how unreasonable)

he is 80% in a match (given the same parameters as his match with samoleus) in a LIVE setting against ANY PRIMARILY ONLINE player in the world.

claudia is the best female player in the world

gabe has the best final table % of any player in the world (not sure if this is exactly what he claimed)

the best players (per capita lmao) in the world are from Mississippi

casinos use infrared lasers to cheat

online poker is rigged against his account(s) specifically (not sure how many he claimed)

he had the most frequent player points on FTP during it's inception



and, for fun

he has busted Phil Ivey the only two times he has played with him, although Phil was clearly gambling because it was early on in the tournament



there are so many more, but i'm done for now. please, let's elaborate on this list and get this thread back on track.

No, she probably would have won more if she ran better, just as Gabe would have won all those tournaments he final tabled if he didn't run so bad.

sounds optimal...

He was willing to escrow, even bringing up dolan as a possability. But now he's seen his out, and knows that no one online will accept this challenge without one.


does this make any sense? What would he have to lose by escrowing, other than recanting when he is finally bust and claims he thought the match was for play chips and not real money. . .?

Gabe,

You don't have to answer this but since I'm one of the few here not ganging up on you, I would appreciate the response. My suspicion is that you aren't comfortable playing for a huge amount of money. Samo has gone on and on about how he's willing to lower his normal uber buyins to a mere $40K to play you (basically a brag about how loaded he is, LOL), but that is still a hell of a lot of money! For instance, I am a semiprofessional basketball player but I wouldn't play anyone on this forum one-on-one for $40K unless I knew I was a lock, because losing that would be devastating. It is a matter of risk assessment.

If the point is simply to prove the skill of live vs. online (something I happen to agree with), why not play someone for more reasonable standards? You mentioned a $10K freezeout with your GF, so why not that? Play very low blinds extremely deep and there doesn't have to be a lot of money on the table. I'm sure you can find a taker, and it sounds like you already have one. Samo surely wouldn't fly out for such piddling stakes (LOL) but I wouldn't play him anyway as he seems to be mentally unstable.

You would have to escrow the money and I don't see why you'd have a problem, especially if it were with one of your friends. It sounds like you had another taker... make it happen!

I would lay 5-1 that this never happened. Just like the 3 royal flushes Gabe "All Talk" Costner said he hit in THIS thread, yet never showed HH's, Gabe "All Talk" Costner is HUGE on resting on his admittedly somewhat impressive tournament laurels and making sweeping unverifiable claims. For someone whose GF buys in 800 BB's deep, I'm kinda surprised you only bought in for 1500 at a DEEP 5-10 button straddle game at Rio with tons of fish and action, then proceeded to play horribly. Obv she is better than you, though.

I can't imagine there's NO ONE that plays in Gabe "All Talk" Costner's casino on 2+2 to corroborate or refute these statements beyond casual acquaintances, (all of whom are bashing his lunacy).

you should check out the strat forums gabe, honestly would like to see ur thoughts on hands, would be fun and probably educational, not a joke at all btw

This would actually be fascinating.

Gabe for strat forum mod!

First of all, I just want to show everyone how stupid your opinions really are. I did mention that JOHN DOLAN AKA (NOVERMBER NINER) lent her the other 5k at the table. If you want to lay someone 5 to 1. Then your quite the moron as I can have him or anyone else at the game verify, Dealer , floormen, whoever.

I guess you will also refute the claim that I said she won over 9k in a 2 5nl with a partial straddle last night. I can verify that too. Do you want to lay 5 to 1.

Also as far as the measly 3200 I lost in the game with you. I busted out of the main event 5 minutes I sit in & was just playing until Claudia (who finished 85th by the way) went on break. The reason I didn't buy any deeper was because I only brought 3500 on me because I was playing the main that day. And I guess you can also refute that I lost an all in preflop with JJ against AJ in a 1500 pot,, Hit a flush over flush with q8s on a 6710 all diamond board against Kx s. And made a 4 bet with k6 off against 78s 3 bet with 50% stacks rin pre & he still called & outflopped me.

Your stupid opinions rot this forum

40k is not a problem, Thats why I mentioned that amount. I would'nt turn down anyone for that amount including Phil Ivey, I dont' think that would satisfy a live & online debate though. 100k is getting a little steep for what I would want to play considering we are looking at houses & wanting to have kids soon. I also keep a decent amount of money in the markets that I use to trade that I would not remove.

But obviously bankroll is an important factor, but no 40k wouldn't be a problem for me to play anyone.

"1000bbs deep, I decide to limp 94o upfront to help get reads on the people behind me. Few more limps, button raises it up to 10bbs. He can have anything. SB decides to 3bet to 30bbs, and it folds to me. I decide to 4bet to 80bbs for information, so I can see if button cracks his knuckles or not. If he cracks his knuckles, he has AK. Button does NOT crack his knuckles but instead 5bets to 170bbs. SB quickly calls, and I flat, planning on trying to get more information on the flop. We are really deep and plus I can soul read so I am going to try to hit and stack either of them.

"Flop is great for me, 732 rainbow, all rags. Which is great because I play rags here sometimes and the flop totally smacks my rag range of 73, 72, and 32o. Checks to me and I decide to put button to the ultimate test, and I donk out for 1.5x pot leaving my about 70 big blinds behind. Button shoves all in, and I got the information I wanted. The way he moved his chips in really told me that he had a strong hand. All the dumbass internet kids at this point would probably call with 9high because they felt pot committed, which is one of many reasons why live players will always be better than online players. I folded with 70bbs behind and lived to fight another day, knowing that I made the correct fold of which no online player could possibly do."

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By the way SGT - I wasn't making a gay joke, for the record. I was making a juvenile joke about Gabe being an Ass Man, as opposed to a Breast Man. But I can see why you might delete that anyway. Delete this one too if you want - doesn't matter much to me. I figured with the tone of this thread one more silly joke wouldn't hurt.

Wasn't funny. You're trying much too hard.

I have checked them out before & I probably couldn't add much to them that some of the other good players hadnt mentioned before. All of what they say is normally good advice in an online game. I realize that the game theory & strategy in those threads are good. I even real a couple with ,, One I was reading a thread about him possibly folding AA on a 910j boards after raising botton & getting reraised preflop from a tilting player in BB. He chose to flat. The question was after the BB lead into him would it be correct to shove all in, flat & look at turn or fold. In the beginning most said shove. Some said flat, which I disagree completely with that. But anyway by the end one poster had said fold & samo started to agree with him some. Maybe only he & one other thought that. It actually made sense in that spot because Samo was prob ahead of the betters leading range, but he was probably behind his calling range if he shoved the flop & got called & would be only slightly ahead of the hands he was ahead since he would call with hands like qj , q10, maybe 88 etc which had plenty of equity in the pot.

However playing live, I would look at the guy. So I can talk strategy, but what I do in live games wouldn't be completely relevant to what would be optimal in online,

Understand

oh man Polov and Gabe, are they ever meant for each other

Gabe: makes hilarious claims that are crapped on/mocked by everyone......In response, Gabe is only interested in whining about how ppl are antisocial and ganging up on him

Polov: makes dumb hilarious statements defending Gabe and subsequently gets owned by everyone but especially Samo....In response, Polov is only interested in fighting, that's all he's good for I guess, as his brain don'tttt workkkk

honestly It wasn't meant to be that funny.

BTW for those that dont understand this, What Samo was trying to say is that the implied equity in the pot might be greater than the current equity in the pot which he was most likely ahead of if he shoved, however because the amount shoved would be greater than the pot size, If he was called then the amount of the pot outside of the flop bet would be negative equity.

I think you mean you'd look at the guy and take a guess at what he has. You'd be right once in awhile but would be totally wrong a lot of the time. When you were right, you'd think "wow, I'm great at getting tells".

While this is definitely an accomplishment, it is not the type of accomplishment that you think it is. Mentioning it every time you talk about Claudia makes you look silly.