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08-17-2011 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Polov
*Random gibberish snipped*
Please stop posting. You have no idea what you're talking about and you're making yourself look stupid.
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08-17-2011 , 06:24 PM
LOL @ these rigtard videos
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08-17-2011 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Polov
EDIT: Oh yeah and the whole disorder thing that welke mentions above me, yet another nice example of really weird antisocial people trying to figure out situations with no knowledge about people whatsoever, its things like this and calling Haseeb a 'sociopath' (HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA) that further shows how awkward you nerds are with dealing with others.
I don't really care that much about Samo or EDDtown one way or the other, or if this match goes down at all, but this is amazing. The self ownage by Polov in this thread is impressive.
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08-17-2011 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Polov
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Quick derail for some time while I read your posts, I think in the Girah thread, I was tilting like an ass, i couldnt believe there was such a guy who thought that his opinions were important, starting posts with "I disagree there, here I agree" as if anyone gives two ****s. But then I saw that you're a woman and it all made insta sense So you're cool in mah book
Nice backhanded sexist remark there.

What else would I post but my opinion. Isn't that you are doing? Stating that you disagree with some of the other posters?

Go crawl back under whatever rock you popped out of.
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08-17-2011 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FreeShot
Please stop posting. You have no idea what you're talking about and you're making yourself look stupid.
Ok my friend, I will stop posting, but then you must do something for me first: stop posting and leave your house for a bit, then I will **** off forever, knowing I at least helped one loser make his first step

SGT: thanks it was classy wouldn't you say? But no seriously no offence was meant, just playing around, and you were in the military as well, obviously none of the things ive said applies to you, you can put most of the idiots posting in this thread in your pocket (hope that isn't too lost in translation)

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08-17-2011 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Polov
Ok my friend, I will stop posting...
Thank you.
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08-17-2011 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ucantcme63
officially the 3rd time Gabe has come back after declaring he will never post ITT again.
Quite. We've already established that All Talk's word has no value, I just like the way he insists on demonstrating that fact at every possible opportunity.
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08-17-2011 , 06:43 PM
this cracked me up cause i read a joke article on what poker players would be if poker ceased to exist for them....

the hansen pic is pretty $

http://news.***************.com/onli...rom-grace.html

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lollll

couple other good chops in there
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08-17-2011 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FreeShot
Thank you.
You seemed to miss a bit of my post my friend, please reread it if you can
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08-17-2011 , 06:54 PM
Well, I thought that it would be a complete impossibility for anyone to trump EDDtown in terms of stupidity, but Polov just might shade it. He actually subscribes to the opinion that I was being a wuss by insisting on an escrow instead of just hopping on a plane and flying to Biloxi to try and play Gabe. And furthermore, that if Gabe didn't play me, I would have won "even grander". And if anyone wouldn't want to do that, then they must be antisocial for not wanting to fly to Missouri and play poker in the casino.

To that, I can just say WOW. I think that there is a high likelihood that this buffoon is in fact Gabe having created another account. It would conveniently let him back in the thread after he has sworn (is it three or four times now?) that he was done posting in the thread.

A few points (don't even know why I am bothering - I'd be shocked if Polov has any reading comprehension ability whatsoever).

- I am a single father raising a five year old son by myself. I have plenty of friends, I have traveled to over 55 countries (including just having come back from a trip to China), and I have plenty of other projects (both for profit and purely as hobbies) outside of poker that I am working on. I have no need or desire to fly to Missouri and play poker as a means of being social.

- Prior to this thread, I did not even know Gabe, much less have any reason to "want to put him in his place." When a person who clearly lacks any modicum of intelligence says that he will play any online player any time in a live setting, I saw that as an easy way to make some money. My acceptance of his challenge was neither ego-driven, nor done in an attempt to humiliate him. I am a professional poker player, and it was clear to me from his obvious lack of intellect that Gabe is likely to be a very poor player. As such, I wanted to take an opportunity to make some money. Nothing more, nothing less.

- Gabe has repeatedly backtracked, retracted statements, made contradictory claims, refused to respond to me, brushed off the escrow issue and acted in a manner where I thought it was very likely (as did just about everyone in this thread) that he was trying to find a way out of the match. Therefore, it is perfectly reasonable for me to insist on having the parametrics of the match defined and the money escrowed before I find someone to watch my son and disrupt my life to fly to Missouri. I would think that this would be obvious, but it is clear that Polov's intellect rivals that of Gabe, so I thought I would explain further.

- Regarding your moronic points about the challenges not applying under certain conditions, no one was suggesting that Gabe play me in any altered state. Unlike your boorishly irrelevant comparisons about screwing a blonde girl after drinking or eating a steak after eating 50 cheeseburgers, I took Gabe up on his challenge directly with no additional stipulations to alter his mental or physical state. In fact, I more or less allowed him to determine the rules and logistics of the match. Can you understand the difference? (I doubt it)

- I am unclear about whether or not you were actually threatening me with physical violence. If you are, then I happily invite you to fly to Boston. You might get a better understanding of whether or not you should be frightened of "someone that looks like me." And if I don't actually show up, you will have won on a grander scale anyway. Besides, it's called TRAVELING! If you don't come, then you are obviously antisocial.

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08-17-2011 , 07:03 PM
LOL, this thread just keeps on delivering!
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08-17-2011 , 07:05 PM
What is so funny about this is that EDD said he felt he had a huge edge over samoleus, while samoleus did everything he could to accommodate EDD and make a game. Then over the some minor quibble, EDD uses that as an excuse to back out.
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08-17-2011 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by samoleus

- I am unclear about whether or not you were actually threatening me with physical violence. If you are, then I happily invite you to fly to Boston. You might get a better understanding of whether or not you should be frightened of "someone that looks like me." And if I don't actually show up, you will have won on a grander scale anyway. Besides, it's called TRAVELING! If you don't come, then you are obviously antisocial.

Wow this is a sign from god, I am at frankfurt airport right now and tomorrow morning I am flying to Boston, as I mentioned earlier that I am flying to america tomorrow. I cant believe you are in Boston and I am flying there tomorrow its either coincidence or as i said a sign from god. Lets hammer out the logistics of this 'match' then, I dont know Boston but I know people who do so we can meet wherever you want, I'll even trust you enough not to outnumber me. I am very serious btw and it would be amazing to give your son a lesson at such an early age, that daddy isnt always right My plane is tomorrow at 13:30 german time so that means probably somewhere in the afternoon ill be arriving so you can plan it out. Once again just tell me a place, and I can take a picture of my ticket when i check in tomorrow just so u know I aint ****ting you. Wow still cant believe what a clear sign from god this is
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08-17-2011 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Polov
Wow this is a sign from god, I am at frankfurt airport right now and tomorrow morning I am flying to Boston, as I mentioned earlier that I am flying to america tomorrow. I cant believe you are in Boston and I am flying there tomorrow its either coincidence or as i said a sign from god. Lets hammer out the logistics of this 'match' then, I dont know Boston but I know people who do so we can meet wherever you want, I'll even trust you enough not to outnumber me. I am very serious btw and it would be amazing to give your son a lesson at such an early age, that daddy isnt always right My plane is tomorrow at 13:30 german time so that means probably somewhere in the afternoon ill be arriving so you can plan it out. Once again just tell me a place, and I can take a picture of my ticket when i check in tomorrow just so u know I aint ****ting you. Wow still cant believe what a clear sign from god this is
I'll actually be in New Jersey tomorrow (just check my blog on Bluefire - including date and time - if you think I am making that up), but I am in Boston 11 out of every 14 days. Why don't you just show up when you feel like it? After all, it's called traveling, right?
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08-17-2011 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by samoleus
I'll actually be in New Jersey tomorrow (just check my blog on Bluefire - including date and time - if you think I am making that up), but I am in Boston 11 out of every 14 days. Why don't you just show up when you feel like it? After all, it's called traveling, right?
Dont worry Ill be there until Monday, thats the 22nd, will you be back by then?
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08-17-2011 , 07:20 PM
haha, Gabe is so delusional that he has convinced himself that this half-wit tard Polov is the only voice of reason and logic in this thread.
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08-17-2011 , 07:21 PM
Man, I wish I could go to Boston tonight.
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08-17-2011 , 07:26 PM
Btw sammy if you back out of this after these 94 pages of talking ****, I really dont know what to tell you.... Same situation, you invited me to Boston, I accepted... 22nd is the last possible day.

Edit: Im going to sleep, hopefully before my flight tomorrow you will have replied, if you aren't returning by the 22nd then we can still figure something out as Ill be in Miami until the 6th of September so plenty of time

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08-17-2011 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Lately I've been reading a lot of articles about online players being better than live players. I wanted to shed some light on this issue as someone that knows many players in both categories.

The average online player is probably better than the average live player these days but the top players in the world will always be live players.

The reason for this is pretty simple, In live play tells come into play. Online poker is not a pure form of poker in the traditional sense, It comes down mostly to math. This is why the game has become much more aggressive in the past few years. Marginal EV situations are pushed to the limit where as in live play, a great player may choose to flat in situations where online it may be correct to reraise or fold. Flatting gives a live player a chance to watch the player post flop & gives him options on whether he thinks the other player connected or not. Online this information is not available.

The skill level to play live at the top levels is much higher. It doesn't matter how good your math strategy skills are if you can be flatted & have your soul read. Your not going to win. Having said that, there are probably less than 50 players that I've played with over 10 years that can do this. That's why the average online player is doing well against average live competition which includes a lot of recreational players.

If you took the top 50 live pros & played against top 50 online pros for a year, the online players end up broke at the end of the period. Having said that, when I say top 50 live players, I'm not talking about commercial tv pros. I'm talking the cream of the crop, elite, soul reading players. Many fly under the radar. These players will always remain head & shoulders above the rest because they've stummbled onto the biggest edge factor in poker bar none.
keep smoking your crack pipe. Online players own live players. For the most part they think deeper and beating live is possible for everyone imo. Beating online poker is a different ball game.
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08-17-2011 , 07:32 PM
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08-17-2011 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Daliman
From our interaction, you certainly had no basis to say that, other than the fact that I'm not some rugged he-man specimen. A bit nerdy, I'll take, but actually quite socially adept, which I can't say quite applies to you although at least your GF handles herself somewhat better socially. Her hand analysis starting at 4:05 is priceless, btw. Just as her limp mid position/3bet/5bet allin move with ATo is underrated and underused, so is the limp/call out of position, lead/3bet/5bet bluff wet flop line. She is truly blazing new trails in poker.
lol, more like specialEDD
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08-17-2011 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Polov
Btw sammy if you back out of this after these 94 pages of talking ****, I really dont know what to tell you.... Same situation, you invited me to Boston, I accepted... 22nd is the last possible day.

Edit: Im going to sleep, hopefully before my flight tomorrow you will have replied, if you aren't returning by the 22nd then we can still figure something out as Ill be in Miami until the 6th of September so plenty of time
LOL. This thread is the gift that keeps on giving.
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08-17-2011 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Polov
Btw sammy if you back out of this after these 94 pages of talking ****, I really dont know what to tell you.... Same situation, you invited me to Boston, I accepted... 22nd is the last possible day.

Edit: Im going to sleep, hopefully before my flight tomorrow you will have replied, if you aren't returning by the 22nd then we can still figure something out as Ill be in Miami until the 6th of September so plenty of time
You really are an idiot of Costneresque proportions.

I'm in Atlantic City until Sunday night or Monday morning/afternoon, depending on the games. Are you really threatening me with physical violence in a public forum? I just want to be very clear about that.
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08-17-2011 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Polov
Btw sammy if you back out of this after these 94 pages of talking ****, I really dont know what to tell you.... Same situation, you invited me to Boston, I accepted... 22nd is the last possible day.
Haha pretty bad when the troll get's leveled
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