Live play vs. Online & why the Top ten players in the world will always be live players
08-17-2011
, 05:04 AM
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To be honest, I am actually a believer in the power of live reads, and I think there are certain rare players (Stu Ungar I believe was one) who can bring people-reading to a whole level that most of us can't imagine. It's possible that Gabe is one of those people.
Have you ever heard about the Truth Wizards experiment, but there are certain rare people who are way above average in being able to read whether people are lying or telling the truth. The experiment found them to be about 0.25% of the population, based on the 20,000 people they tested. That's 1 in 400 people. Most of those people will not get into poker seriously, so the chances of one of these natural readers is pretty slim, so it shouldn't be expected that we hear from many of them in the poker world. Most of us have to try really hard against our natural inability to read people. So I'm just putting it out there that it is entirely possible that Gabe is a very, very good reader of people, because I don't think most people can relate to what is possible at the higher end of this skill spectrum.
This might also explain his losses online, because while his reads might be exceptional, his fundamental play is lacking, just because he has not had the need to improve it in live games because his reads on people accomplish a lot for him. You would still think he might consider this an option, though, and not that online poker is rigged.
At the same time, he has not defended his ideas well at all, and the only way he could defend his ideas if he were to tell us some specific reads he had on people in specific situations. He has expressed reluctance to do that, because they are closely guarded trade secrets. But he should understand that without any specific arguments from him as to how he reads people, this whole argument is quite meaningless. He should understand people's frustration that he is making astonishing claims but does not give us even anecdotal reasons to believe those claims.
My personal theory; Gabe was perhaps putting together a book on poker tells and wanted to create some advance hype on Twoplustwo, but unfortunately it got off on the wrong foot. And Gabe might not be good at responding to people online, and it kept degenerating. Gabe, if you're reading this, you can salvage this thread (and maybe your TwoplusTwo reputation, whatever that's worth to you) if you tell us some actual hands where tells came into play. I, for one, am very curious.
I'm a believer that tells are very much under-rated, mostly because most people don't see the possibilities and factors that are presenting themselves. But I also don't think it adds that much to my win rate; maybe 15-30%, depending on the type of game, but that's not insubstantial.
So please give us some examples, Gabe; it's probably not top secret knowledge if you say many top poker players already know them. And those people who don't believe there's much use in reads won't get much out of it anyway.
Have you ever heard about the Truth Wizards experiment, but there are certain rare people who are way above average in being able to read whether people are lying or telling the truth. The experiment found them to be about 0.25% of the population, based on the 20,000 people they tested. That's 1 in 400 people. Most of those people will not get into poker seriously, so the chances of one of these natural readers is pretty slim, so it shouldn't be expected that we hear from many of them in the poker world. Most of us have to try really hard against our natural inability to read people. So I'm just putting it out there that it is entirely possible that Gabe is a very, very good reader of people, because I don't think most people can relate to what is possible at the higher end of this skill spectrum.
This might also explain his losses online, because while his reads might be exceptional, his fundamental play is lacking, just because he has not had the need to improve it in live games because his reads on people accomplish a lot for him. You would still think he might consider this an option, though, and not that online poker is rigged.
At the same time, he has not defended his ideas well at all, and the only way he could defend his ideas if he were to tell us some specific reads he had on people in specific situations. He has expressed reluctance to do that, because they are closely guarded trade secrets. But he should understand that without any specific arguments from him as to how he reads people, this whole argument is quite meaningless. He should understand people's frustration that he is making astonishing claims but does not give us even anecdotal reasons to believe those claims.
My personal theory; Gabe was perhaps putting together a book on poker tells and wanted to create some advance hype on Twoplustwo, but unfortunately it got off on the wrong foot. And Gabe might not be good at responding to people online, and it kept degenerating. Gabe, if you're reading this, you can salvage this thread (and maybe your TwoplusTwo reputation, whatever that's worth to you) if you tell us some actual hands where tells came into play. I, for one, am very curious.
I'm a believer that tells are very much under-rated, mostly because most people don't see the possibilities and factors that are presenting themselves. But I also don't think it adds that much to my win rate; maybe 15-30%, depending on the type of game, but that's not insubstantial.
So please give us some examples, Gabe; it's probably not top secret knowledge if you say many top poker players already know them. And those people who don't believe there's much use in reads won't get much out of it anyway.
Without being aware of that study, I have also thought along those lines, that possibly he is an amazing hand reader. I considered this possible in part because I think my wife may be one of those 1 in 400 though she doesn't play poker (when we have some time I may teach her
) At this point there's no way to know about Gabe though but it's possible.The problem isn't that he has not defended his ideas well, it's that he has said so many ******ed things in this thread that it's not possible to take him seriously. He may or may not be a truth wizard, but he is delusional, of this there can be no doubt.
08-17-2011
, 10:09 AM
08-17-2011
, 12:55 PM
08-17-2011
, 01:18 PM
08-17-2011
, 01:47 PM
08-17-2011
, 02:50 PM
There is one thing to consider though. The problems in this thread stem from EDD backing out of his 'open challenge' of "I would play an online player any time in any setting". Now OP has been ridiculed for many things, most of what he deserves but I can see one very specific dynamic here: the internet forum socially awkward ******s nitpicking and breaking apart the statements of a random guy.
Let me elaborate;
I start a new thread about blonde girls with the following OP:
"Man I love blonde girls the most they are the dirtiest and they're willing to do anything blah blah blah....... I would **** a blonde girl anytime in any setting..."
Or perhaps a thread about steaks:
"Man i love steaks they are the juiciest meals available especially ones from Argentina blah blah blah........ i would eat a steak anytime in any setting"
Cars?:
"Man i love the new BMW 7 series they are the perfect combination of luxury and power blah blah blah...... i would drive a 7 series anytime in any setting"
My only question is after reading such a hypothetical thread would your first response be to accept my 'open challenge' and bet me that i cant **** a blonde girl after 5 bottles of vodka, or that i cant eat a steak after eating 50 cheeseburgers, or that i cant drive a 7 series and beat the record in Nurgburgring etc etc etc.
Now I know EDD has said some absurd things (80% favourite, online is rigged....) and he does deserve some **** for some of the things he says (my other post in this thread is actually asking for a fist fight with him
) but I can safely say as an objective observer of this thread, the scale of which Gabe appears 'delusional' is directly proportionate to the scale that the rest of the posters appear as pathetic nitpicking socially awkward nerds.
And btw I googled a picture of samoleus and if I was Gabe I wouldnt want to have anything to do with that guy either hahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahah. I mean think about it, some guy (looking like that to top it all off) constantly whining and whining 'whats the timeframe, whats the logistics, tell me the logistics, the logistics, im polite, when should i come, im very polite, what about escrow, what about this, what about that please respond respond respond please respond ive been nothing but polite" etc etc etc repeat to infinity. My reaction, as any normal person who doesnt give a flying **** who is who on some stupid forum, would be to say listen, if YOU want to play ME then ****ing come, if not then **** off and stop bothering me and talking ****. And if some guy looking like samoleus ever mouthed off to me, the guy would just be finished, simple as that.
This thread is just a nice piece of evidence of how much people can lose communication skills and common sense in the virtual world.
BTW, i would kick the **** out of any of you in any setting anytime, I really hope this is taken as an open challenge by you ******s as well
*waiting for request for logistics of the fight*
Let me elaborate;
I start a new thread about blonde girls with the following OP:
"Man I love blonde girls the most they are the dirtiest and they're willing to do anything blah blah blah....... I would **** a blonde girl anytime in any setting..."
Or perhaps a thread about steaks:
"Man i love steaks they are the juiciest meals available especially ones from Argentina blah blah blah........ i would eat a steak anytime in any setting"
Cars?:
"Man i love the new BMW 7 series they are the perfect combination of luxury and power blah blah blah...... i would drive a 7 series anytime in any setting"
My only question is after reading such a hypothetical thread would your first response be to accept my 'open challenge' and bet me that i cant **** a blonde girl after 5 bottles of vodka, or that i cant eat a steak after eating 50 cheeseburgers, or that i cant drive a 7 series and beat the record in Nurgburgring etc etc etc.
Now I know EDD has said some absurd things (80% favourite, online is rigged....) and he does deserve some **** for some of the things he says (my other post in this thread is actually asking for a fist fight with him
) but I can safely say as an objective observer of this thread, the scale of which Gabe appears 'delusional' is directly proportionate to the scale that the rest of the posters appear as pathetic nitpicking socially awkward nerds. And btw I googled a picture of samoleus and if I was Gabe I wouldnt want to have anything to do with that guy either hahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahah. I mean think about it, some guy (looking like that to top it all off) constantly whining and whining 'whats the timeframe, whats the logistics, tell me the logistics, the logistics, im polite, when should i come, im very polite, what about escrow, what about this, what about that please respond respond respond please respond ive been nothing but polite" etc etc etc repeat to infinity. My reaction, as any normal person who doesnt give a flying **** who is who on some stupid forum, would be to say listen, if YOU want to play ME then ****ing come, if not then **** off and stop bothering me and talking ****. And if some guy looking like samoleus ever mouthed off to me, the guy would just be finished, simple as that.
This thread is just a nice piece of evidence of how much people can lose communication skills and common sense in the virtual world.
BTW, i would kick the **** out of any of you in any setting anytime, I really hope this is taken as an open challenge by you ******s as well
*waiting for request for logistics of the fight*
08-17-2011
, 03:09 PM
Quote:
There is one thing to consider though. The problems in this thread stem from EDD backing out of his 'open challenge' of "I would play an online player any time in any setting". Now OP has been ridiculed for many things, most of what he deserves but I can see one very specific dynamic here: the internet forum socially awkward ******s nitpicking and breaking apart the statements of a random guy.
Let me elaborate;
I start a new thread about blonde girls with the following OP:
"Man I love blonde girls the most they are the dirtiest and they're willing to do anything blah blah blah....... I would **** a blonde girl anytime in any setting..."
Or perhaps a thread about steaks:
"Man i love steaks they are the juiciest meals available especially ones from Argentina blah blah blah........ i would eat a steak anytime in any setting"
Cars?:
"Man i love the new BMW 7 series they are the perfect combination of luxury and power blah blah blah...... i would drive a 7 series anytime in any setting"
My only question is after reading such a hypothetical thread would your first response be to accept my 'open challenge' and bet me that i cant **** a blonde girl after 5 bottles of vodka, or that i cant eat a steak after eating 50 cheeseburgers, or that i cant drive a 7 series and beat the record in Nurgburgring etc etc etc.
Now I know EDD has said some absurd things (80% favourite, online is rigged....) and he does deserve some **** for some of the things he says (my other post in this thread is actually asking for a fist fight with him ) but I can safely say as an objective observer of this thread, the scale of which Gabe appears 'delusional' is directly proportionate to the scale that the rest of the posters appear as pathetic nitpicking socially awkward nerds.
And btw I googled a picture of samoleus and if I was Gabe I wouldnt want to have anything to do with that guy either hahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahah. I mean think about it, some guy (looking like that to top it all off) constantly whining and whining 'whats the timeframe, whats the logistics, tell me the logistics, the logistics, im polite, when should i come, im very polite, what about escrow, what about this, what about that please respond respond respond please respond ive been nothing but polite" etc etc etc repeat to infinity. My reaction, as any normal person who doesnt give a flying **** who is who on some stupid forum, would be to say listen, if YOU want to play ME then ****ing come, if not then **** off and stop bothering me and talking ****. And if some guy looking like samoleus ever mouthed off to me, the guy would just be finished, simple as that.
This thread is just a nice piece of evidence of how much people can lose communication skills and common sense in the virtual world.
BTW, i would kick the **** out of any of you in any setting anytime, I really hope this is taken as an open challenge by you ******s as well
*waiting for request for logistics of the fight*
Let me elaborate;
I start a new thread about blonde girls with the following OP:
"Man I love blonde girls the most they are the dirtiest and they're willing to do anything blah blah blah....... I would **** a blonde girl anytime in any setting..."
Or perhaps a thread about steaks:
"Man i love steaks they are the juiciest meals available especially ones from Argentina blah blah blah........ i would eat a steak anytime in any setting"
Cars?:
"Man i love the new BMW 7 series they are the perfect combination of luxury and power blah blah blah...... i would drive a 7 series anytime in any setting"
My only question is after reading such a hypothetical thread would your first response be to accept my 'open challenge' and bet me that i cant **** a blonde girl after 5 bottles of vodka, or that i cant eat a steak after eating 50 cheeseburgers, or that i cant drive a 7 series and beat the record in Nurgburgring etc etc etc.
Now I know EDD has said some absurd things (80% favourite, online is rigged....) and he does deserve some **** for some of the things he says (my other post in this thread is actually asking for a fist fight with him
) but I can safely say as an objective observer of this thread, the scale of which Gabe appears 'delusional' is directly proportionate to the scale that the rest of the posters appear as pathetic nitpicking socially awkward nerds. And btw I googled a picture of samoleus and if I was Gabe I wouldnt want to have anything to do with that guy either hahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahah. I mean think about it, some guy (looking like that to top it all off) constantly whining and whining 'whats the timeframe, whats the logistics, tell me the logistics, the logistics, im polite, when should i come, im very polite, what about escrow, what about this, what about that please respond respond respond please respond ive been nothing but polite" etc etc etc repeat to infinity. My reaction, as any normal person who doesnt give a flying **** who is who on some stupid forum, would be to say listen, if YOU want to play ME then ****ing come, if not then **** off and stop bothering me and talking ****. And if some guy looking like samoleus ever mouthed off to me, the guy would just be finished, simple as that.
This thread is just a nice piece of evidence of how much people can lose communication skills and common sense in the virtual world.
BTW, i would kick the **** out of any of you in any setting anytime, I really hope this is taken as an open challenge by you ******s as well
*waiting for request for logistics of the fight*
My only comment beside that is why exactly do you assume everyone posting in this thread is a socially awkward nerd? For my part, I am 40, married with 3 kids, and am generally awesome. Samo played professional soccer, and subiime 6 bets Ace-rag for a living. What makes YOU so cool?
08-17-2011
, 03:30 PM
Quote:
There is one thing to consider though. The problems in this thread stem from EDD backing out of his 'open challenge' of "I would play an online player any time in any setting". Now OP has been ridiculed for many things, most of what he deserves but I can see one very specific dynamic here: the internet forum socially awkward ******s nitpicking and breaking apart the statements of a random guy.
Let me elaborate;
I start a new thread about blonde girls with the following OP:
"Man I love blonde girls the most they are the dirtiest and they're willing to do anything blah blah blah....... I would **** a blonde girl anytime in any setting..."
Or perhaps a thread about steaks:
"Man i love steaks they are the juiciest meals available especially ones from Argentina blah blah blah........ i would eat a steak anytime in any setting"
Cars?:
"Man i love the new BMW 7 series they are the perfect combination of luxury and power blah blah blah...... i would drive a 7 series anytime in any setting"
My only question is after reading such a hypothetical thread would your first response be to accept my 'open challenge' and bet me that i cant **** a blonde girl after 5 bottles of vodka, or that i cant eat a steak after eating 50 cheeseburgers, or that i cant drive a 7 series and beat the record in Nurgburgring etc etc etc.
Now I know EDD has said some absurd things (80% favourite, online is rigged....) and he does deserve some **** for some of the things he says (my other post in this thread is actually asking for a fist fight with him ) but I can safely say as an objective observer of this thread, the scale of which Gabe appears 'delusional' is directly proportionate to the scale that the rest of the posters appear as pathetic nitpicking socially awkward nerds.
And btw I googled a picture of samoleus and if I was Gabe I wouldnt want to have anything to do with that guy either hahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahah. I mean think about it, some guy (looking like that to top it all off) constantly whining and whining 'whats the timeframe, whats the logistics, tell me the logistics, the logistics, im polite, when should i come, im very polite, what about escrow, what about this, what about that please respond respond respond please respond ive been nothing but polite" etc etc etc repeat to infinity. My reaction, as any normal person who doesnt give a flying **** who is who on some stupid forum, would be to say listen, if YOU want to play ME then ****ing come, if not then **** off and stop bothering me and talking ****. And if some guy looking like samoleus ever mouthed off to me, the guy would just be finished, simple as that.
This thread is just a nice piece of evidence of how much people can lose communication skills and common sense in the virtual world.
BTW, i would kick the **** out of any of you in any setting anytime, I really hope this is taken as an open challenge by you ******s as well
*waiting for request for logistics of the fight*
Let me elaborate;
I start a new thread about blonde girls with the following OP:
"Man I love blonde girls the most they are the dirtiest and they're willing to do anything blah blah blah....... I would **** a blonde girl anytime in any setting..."
Or perhaps a thread about steaks:
"Man i love steaks they are the juiciest meals available especially ones from Argentina blah blah blah........ i would eat a steak anytime in any setting"
Cars?:
"Man i love the new BMW 7 series they are the perfect combination of luxury and power blah blah blah...... i would drive a 7 series anytime in any setting"
My only question is after reading such a hypothetical thread would your first response be to accept my 'open challenge' and bet me that i cant **** a blonde girl after 5 bottles of vodka, or that i cant eat a steak after eating 50 cheeseburgers, or that i cant drive a 7 series and beat the record in Nurgburgring etc etc etc.
Now I know EDD has said some absurd things (80% favourite, online is rigged....) and he does deserve some **** for some of the things he says (my other post in this thread is actually asking for a fist fight with him
) but I can safely say as an objective observer of this thread, the scale of which Gabe appears 'delusional' is directly proportionate to the scale that the rest of the posters appear as pathetic nitpicking socially awkward nerds. And btw I googled a picture of samoleus and if I was Gabe I wouldnt want to have anything to do with that guy either hahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahah. I mean think about it, some guy (looking like that to top it all off) constantly whining and whining 'whats the timeframe, whats the logistics, tell me the logistics, the logistics, im polite, when should i come, im very polite, what about escrow, what about this, what about that please respond respond respond please respond ive been nothing but polite" etc etc etc repeat to infinity. My reaction, as any normal person who doesnt give a flying **** who is who on some stupid forum, would be to say listen, if YOU want to play ME then ****ing come, if not then **** off and stop bothering me and talking ****. And if some guy looking like samoleus ever mouthed off to me, the guy would just be finished, simple as that.
This thread is just a nice piece of evidence of how much people can lose communication skills and common sense in the virtual world.
BTW, i would kick the **** out of any of you in any setting anytime, I really hope this is taken as an open challenge by you ******s as well
*waiting for request for logistics of the fight*
Despite his absurd contentions, Gabe sounds like a decent person. Somewhat deluded, but a nice enough guy.
You on the other hand, sound like a total a..hole.
Also, just had a quick peek at your other posts. They're all pretty much the same. I'm guessing you're about 13 years old?
08-17-2011
, 03:31 PM
Quote:
Welcome to 2+2. You're going to do well around here.
My only comment beside that is why exactly do you assume everyone posting in this thread is a socially awkward nerd? For my part, I am 40, married with 3 kids, and am generally awesome. Samo played professional soccer, and subiime 6 bets Ace-rag for a living. What makes YOU so cool?
My only comment beside that is why exactly do you assume everyone posting in this thread is a socially awkward nerd? For my part, I am 40, married with 3 kids, and am generally awesome. Samo played professional soccer, and subiime 6 bets Ace-rag for a living. What makes YOU so cool?
But yeah samoleus came off very annoying with his badgering in the thread, if hes the tough guardian of online poker, hero to all these nerds, then just go and play him instead of repeating every detail about the match in this thread roughly 267 times along with my personal favorite 'ive been nothing but polite, nothing but polite' followed by 40 more nerds repeating how hes been nothing but polite haahhahahahaha just pathetic. Grow some balls samoleus you ****.
08-17-2011
, 03:49 PM
LT you are the embodiment of what I was trying to say. 'Are you seriously telling samo to grow some balls?!?!!??!?!?!?!!?!!?!?' makes you sound very sad, very pathetic, basically like some woman after her friend tells her her favourite actor is terrible or something similiar, you get the idea. But at least the celebrity obsessed woman in that example looks up to someone that is pretty normal to look up to in this day and age, whereas you are looking up to, defending, and in shock when someone insults some ****ing online poker player, making you a socially awkard nerd with no common sense.
Last edited by SGT RJ; 02-10-2012 at 07:49 PM.
08-17-2011
, 03:54 PM
Quote:
There is one thing to consider though. The problems in this thread stem from EDD backing out of his 'open challenge' of "I would play an online player any time in any setting". Now OP has been ridiculed for many things, most of what he deserves but I can see one very specific dynamic here: the internet forum socially awkward ******s nitpicking and breaking apart the statements of a random guy.
Let me elaborate;
I start a new thread about blonde girls with the following OP:
"Man I love blonde girls the most they are the dirtiest and they're willing to do anything blah blah blah....... I would **** a blonde girl anytime in any setting..."
Or perhaps a thread about steaks:
"Man i love steaks they are the juiciest meals available especially ones from Argentina blah blah blah........ i would eat a steak anytime in any setting"
Cars?:
"Man i love the new BMW 7 series they are the perfect combination of luxury and power blah blah blah...... i would drive a 7 series anytime in any setting"
My only question is after reading such a hypothetical thread would your first response be to accept my 'open challenge' and bet me that i cant **** a blonde girl after 5 bottles of vodka, or that i cant eat a steak after eating 50 cheeseburgers, or that i cant drive a 7 series and beat the record in Nurgburgring etc etc etc.
Now I know EDD has said some absurd things (80% favourite, online is rigged....) and he does deserve some **** for some of the things he says (my other post in this thread is actually asking for a fist fight with him ) but I can safely say as an objective observer of this thread, the scale of which Gabe appears 'delusional' is directly proportionate to the scale that the rest of the posters appear as pathetic nitpicking socially awkward nerds.
And btw I googled a picture of samoleus and if I was Gabe I wouldnt want to have anything to do with that guy either hahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahah. I mean think about it, some guy (looking like that to top it all off) constantly whining and whining 'whats the timeframe, whats the logistics, tell me the logistics, the logistics, im polite, when should i come, im very polite, what about escrow, what about this, what about that please respond respond respond please respond ive been nothing but polite" etc etc etc repeat to infinity. My reaction, as any normal person who doesnt give a flying **** who is who on some stupid forum, would be to say listen, if YOU want to play ME then ****ing come, if not then **** off and stop bothering me and talking ****. And if some guy looking like samoleus ever mouthed off to me, the guy would just be finished, simple as that.
This thread is just a nice piece of evidence of how much people can lose communication skills and common sense in the virtual world.
BTW, i would kick the **** out of any of you in any setting anytime, I really hope this is taken as an open challenge by you ******s as well
*waiting for request for logistics of the fight*
Let me elaborate;
I start a new thread about blonde girls with the following OP:
"Man I love blonde girls the most they are the dirtiest and they're willing to do anything blah blah blah....... I would **** a blonde girl anytime in any setting..."
Or perhaps a thread about steaks:
"Man i love steaks they are the juiciest meals available especially ones from Argentina blah blah blah........ i would eat a steak anytime in any setting"
Cars?:
"Man i love the new BMW 7 series they are the perfect combination of luxury and power blah blah blah...... i would drive a 7 series anytime in any setting"
My only question is after reading such a hypothetical thread would your first response be to accept my 'open challenge' and bet me that i cant **** a blonde girl after 5 bottles of vodka, or that i cant eat a steak after eating 50 cheeseburgers, or that i cant drive a 7 series and beat the record in Nurgburgring etc etc etc.
Now I know EDD has said some absurd things (80% favourite, online is rigged....) and he does deserve some **** for some of the things he says (my other post in this thread is actually asking for a fist fight with him
) but I can safely say as an objective observer of this thread, the scale of which Gabe appears 'delusional' is directly proportionate to the scale that the rest of the posters appear as pathetic nitpicking socially awkward nerds. And btw I googled a picture of samoleus and if I was Gabe I wouldnt want to have anything to do with that guy either hahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahah. I mean think about it, some guy (looking like that to top it all off) constantly whining and whining 'whats the timeframe, whats the logistics, tell me the logistics, the logistics, im polite, when should i come, im very polite, what about escrow, what about this, what about that please respond respond respond please respond ive been nothing but polite" etc etc etc repeat to infinity. My reaction, as any normal person who doesnt give a flying **** who is who on some stupid forum, would be to say listen, if YOU want to play ME then ****ing come, if not then **** off and stop bothering me and talking ****. And if some guy looking like samoleus ever mouthed off to me, the guy would just be finished, simple as that.
This thread is just a nice piece of evidence of how much people can lose communication skills and common sense in the virtual world.
BTW, i would kick the **** out of any of you in any setting anytime, I really hope this is taken as an open challenge by you ******s as well
*waiting for request for logistics of the fight*
I know I said that I wouldn't post here anymore, but I had respond to this since as far as I'm concerned is one of the very few intelligent objective thinkers on the entire thread. Most of what you said about Samo is exactly true & almost took the words from my mouth. The whole thing was very annoying in the way that he kept badgering the small details, I just wanted to say come down here when you get ready & lets play if were going to play or *** off if your going to be weird about it.
Anyway, I glad there are a couple of posters with some common sense to reason objectively & can see the mob mentality. It actually goes much deeper as I've posted & read this forum on & off for 8 or 9 years. What I've figured out is that anyone with a halfway sense of reasoning pretty leaves after making a few post because of the cult like illogical mentality of the NVGtards. That's why you will get swamped here by the sheeple.
Anyway I'm taking no offense to the other part about the online poker or my edge against top players because I completely understand that you don't believe that. However all I can say is both are true. I don't really expect anyone else to understand it without proof though. Thanks for having a voice of reason among a mound of idiots.
BTW, I can confirm Daliman is also a bit socially challenged & nerdy & I'm pretty sure there was a thread here discussing Samo playing professional soccer & several guys investigated it & it seemed that afterward, the majority of posters in the thread thought he made it up & was lying, so as weird as he is, who knows. I also responded to the poster who wanted to play & he if wants to without being weird or insulting, We will play.
GL
