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08-15-2011 , 11:16 PM
He just saved himself $40000. Nice move Samo, Guess you didn't really want to play after all. You figured you put your mouth when you realized you might be out of your league.
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08-15-2011 , 11:26 PM
PMs to SAMO, DOES THIS SOUND LIKE I'M TRYING TO BACK OUT, WTF??


I'm playing poker with John Dolan, he said that they would be glad to have the game, but will be better after the 24 of the month . He will be out of town. Our tournaments start 25th. If I were you I would plan to come around that time. There will be some games at the Beau Rivage too if you want to make a trip worthwhile. (my phone number)



Sounds good, When you say tuesday , You are talking Aug. 30th I assume? Any time around that date is fine, I do want to play the main event here. It is sept. 4th , 3k buy in. So if we could play before then would probably be better.


Also John Dolan & Tyler smith were roomates, They had a large Condo together, but both let the condo go & temporarily with their girlfriends place. Tyler is supposed to be getting another condo for them & John is buyiing a house , Theyve said that either would be glad to have it & should be ready by then, but if by some chance they are not ready, I will get a suite at the Beau Rivage, IP , or Hard Rock. I have casino comps at all of those, but would have to see which is best suited for game. Anyway just plan to come around that time & figure out the dates. I'm assuming we will play at Johns place, but the casino suite will be a back up.


I think it would be easiest to have John Dolan hold it since we will be down here. I think he has a box at the beau Rivage. We could just write something up & have him hold it if you want. He's a great guy & everyone knows him since was november niner. Let me know if this is ok & I'll confirm with him if he will do this.
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08-15-2011 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
He just saved himself $40000. Nice move Samo, Guess you didn't really want to play after all. You figured you put your mouth when you realized you might be out of your league.
EDDtown, I am more than happy to play mate. Instead of your supposed PMs in which you have secured an escrow, venue, and everything else, how about we conduct our business publicly on twoplustwo.

I propose that we play in the first week of September: Thursday through Sunday if that works for you. We have already defined the parameters of the match earlier in this thread.

I can get someone with a high standing in the poker community to escrow the money for free. Let me know if you are willing to do that. Otherwise, please suggest someone that you would be willing to escrow the money. It should be someone whose integrity/honesty can be vouched for by one or two people that I know (or if not someone I know, then by a larger number of people in the twoplustwo community).

I am not backing out mate: far from it. As soon as you escrow the money (subject to forfeiture if you don't show up on our designated day/time/place), I will buy a plane ticket immediately.

If you are not backing out the match, in order to provide for full transparency, let's conduct the business publicly in this thread. The ball is in your court. You need to either agree to let me choose the escrow - or you need to choose (a verifiable) one yourself. I am not backing out of the match - I am merely sick of waiting for you and your excuses and delaying at every step.
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08-15-2011 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by samoleus
EDDtown, I am more than happy to play mate. Instead of your supposed PMs in which you have secured an escrow, venue, and everything else, how about we conduct our business publicly on twoplustwo.

I propose that we play in the first week of September: Thursday through Sunday if that works for you. We have already defined the parameters of the match earlier in this thread.

I can get someone with a high standing in the poker community to escrow the money for free. Let me know if you are willing to do that. Otherwise, please suggest someone that you would be willing to escrow the money. It should be someone whose integrity/honesty can be vouched for by one or two people that I know (or if not someone I know, then by a larger number of people in the twoplustwo community).




I am not backing out mate: far from it. As soon as you escrow the money (subject to forfeiture if you don't show up on our designated day/time/place), I will buy a plane ticket immediately.

If you are not backing out the match, in order to provide for full transparency, let's conduct the business publicly in this thread. The ball is in your court. You need to either agree to let me choose the escrow - or you need to choose (a verifiable) one yourself. I am not backing out of the match - I am merely sick of waiting for you and your excuses and delaying at every step.


SAMO, CAN YOU READ THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY KEYBOARD. *** OFF

Nobody is going to talk to me like that & come sit a table in front of me without getting their teeth knocked in the back their throat.
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08-15-2011 , 11:31 PM
LOSER
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08-15-2011 , 11:33 PM
WHAT? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!



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08-15-2011 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
This fckn guy, Comes to a forum because he got his feathers ruffled about what I said about online players, challenges me to play, begs me to play. Then I actually accept his weird challenge. Then insults my character & accusses me of trying to back out when we aren't supposed to be playing until early Sept. Everything was pretty much set except for the plane ticket, And I have all of the PMs for proof of his lying.
He's not the one backing out. Maybe you mean to play the match, maybe you don't, but what's clear is that you haven't advanced the conversation any with regards to escrow and more details.

Also, you challenged online players, he didn't challenge you.
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08-15-2011 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
SAMO, CAN YOU READ THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY KEYBOARD. *** OFF

Nobody is going to talk to me like that & come sit a table in front of me without getting their teeth knocked in the back their throat.
Also, he's been quite respectful. Show us all where he was "talking to you like that" so it deserved getting violent.
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08-15-2011 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jedi
He's not the one backing out. Maybe you mean to play the match, maybe you don't, but what's clear is that you haven't advanced the conversation any with regards to escrow and more details.

Also, you challenged online players, he didn't challenge you.

Ya whatever,, You guys are looking through a one pieced lens for sure. Your biased & have no integrity what so ever.
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08-15-2011 , 11:45 PM
EDDtown, are you or are you not going to honor your word and play me? As I said, once you escrow the money (again, subject to forfeiture if you back out), I will buy my ticket immediately and play you.

Once I kick your ass on the felt, I am more than happy to kick your ass on the street too if you like. We'll see whose teeth end up where.
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08-15-2011 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jedi
Also, he's been quite respectful. Show us all where he was "talking to you like that" so it deserved getting violent.
Jedi, calling you a moron is putting it lightly.


You don't call this disrepectful

"""I have really tried to be respectful and polite with EDDtown despite his repeated delusional rantings, but I am just about out of patience. He swears that he is done posting in this thread several times, but just keeps pulling an Energizer Bunny on us. He keeps on going with his drivel about online poker being rigged against him, about him having the highest final table percentage of anyone with 100 tournaments played (Gabe, can you please tell us where you got that statistic? Who is second in that category?), about him being an 80+% favorite over any online player, about how the top players in the world all play in his home casino, about how casinos cheat with infrared lasers, about how his challenges were figurative and not literal, about his having won millions of dollars playing poker full-time (but not having more than 40K to play for), and many more such absurd conspiracy theories.

He said many times that he would play any online player any time. Yet when I challenged him, he took days to respond (and then obviously did so only to save face). Then he said that he would respond to me within a day with the logistics of the match. He took ten days and only did so because of the heat he was getting on the thread. Then he claimed that he was done with the thread and would contact me on PM. He never contacted me on PM until I posted in the thread that he had not. I responded immediately and suggested a date. He did respond fairly quickly with a response to my proposed date - but when I then pm'd back with regards to an escrow, he did not respond. I've since sent him two more pms asking if he could find a couple of people to vouch for anyone he would want to escrow with - or if he would accept my choice of person who would escrow for 0% vig. Once again, he has not responded.

In the meantime, while being too busy "watching the market" to respond to me, he has posted many times in this thread (after saying he was done posting on here) to defend his claim that online poker is rigged against him. I mean after all, he lost with AA against 33! How could that ever be possible?

I am sick and tired of wasting my time with this pathetic excuse of a man. First he boasts and challenges. Then he backs down from the challenge, claiming that it was a figurative challenge. Then he accepts to save face, but tries to say he can't play for more than a certain amount (clearly expecting me to refuse). When I agree, he delays and finds every tactic that he can find to avoid playing me while trying to lose minimal face in the thread.

Gabe, you have made a mockery of yourself. There is no avoiding the fact that you are a tin-hat wearing lunatic who will never be any more than comic relief: a laughingstock in the poker world who can't write a single sentence without a spelling or grammatical error. At the very least, you could have maintained your integrity and self-respect by following through with your ill-advised challenge when I accepted it. I for one, actually believed in your integrity despite your obvious lunacy. Obviously, I was wrong to do so.

Answer my PM in clear unambiguous terms if you intend to go through with the match. I won't hold my breath. """
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08-15-2011 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
PMs to SAMO, DOES THIS SOUND LIKE I'M TRYING TO BACK OUT, WTF??


I'm playing poker with John Dolan, he said that they would be glad to have the game, but will be better after the 24 of the month . He will be out of town. Our tournaments start 25th. If I were you I would plan to come around that time. There will be some games at the Beau Rivage too if you want to make a trip worthwhile. (my phone number)



Sounds good, When you say tuesday , You are talking Aug. 30th I assume? Any time around that date is fine, I do want to play the main event here. It is sept. 4th , 3k buy in. So if we could play before then would probably be better.


Also John Dolan & Tyler smith were roomates, They had a large Condo together, but both let the condo go & temporarily with their girlfriends place. Tyler is supposed to be getting another condo for them & John is buyiing a house , Theyve said that either would be glad to have it & should be ready by then, but if by some chance they are not ready, I will get a suite at the Beau Rivage, IP , or Hard Rock. I have casino comps at all of those, but would have to see which is best suited for game. Anyway just plan to come around that time & figure out the dates. I'm assuming we will play at Johns place, but the casino suite will be a back up.


I think it would be easiest to have John Dolan hold it since we will be down here. I think he has a box at the beau Rivage. We could just write something up & have him hold it if you want. He's a great guy & everyone knows him since was november niner. Let me know if this is ok & I'll confirm with him if he will do this.

I may be wrong, but I kinda think Samo wants to escrow the money somewhere before he buys a plane ticket and flies all the way there in order to ensure that he isn't wasting his time.

Either that or he missed your thing about having Dolan escrow it.
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08-15-2011 , 11:52 PM
Clearly the only thing holding the match back the entire time was an escrow. I saw this coming a mile away and said that will be why the match won't happen.
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08-15-2011 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego05
I may be wrong, but I kinda think Samo wants to escrow the money somewhere before he buys a plane ticket and flies all the way there in order to ensure that he isn't wasting his time.

Either that or he missed your thing about having Dolan escrow it.
This is of course correct. How do I know that once I spend the money and time to get to Biloxi, he won't tell me that the venue and the dates that he agreed on were not literal - and that we are crazy for assuming that first week of September actually means literally the first week of September?

As far as the PMs, I can confirm that the PMs that he posted are indeed fully accurate. However, I would ask that he (a) post the dates of those PMs and (b) post my responses to him - and their dates and times. I responded to each of his PMs immediately. As far as the bit about John Dolan, I asked him if he knew anyone that would vouch for him - as I was not willing to just send my money to him just on the fact that he was a November niner. I also mentioned that if that was at all an issue, I could get someone with a spotless reputation to do it for free. Since I sent him that message, EDDtown has made about a dozen posts on here without responding to me. (This is in keeping with the long delays every step of the way with him).

Waiting and waiting for his response, I checked the thread today and saw that he had time to post all about his bad beats online - but no time to respond to the parameters of the match. That is when I posted what I did tonight.

As I've said all along, I am still willing (and very eager) to play. But I can't waste my time on this thread forever, waiting for this buffoon. EDDtown, let's keep everything public (and therefore transparent) - no PMs. Are you backing out of the challenge, or are you going to play me? If you are going to play me, who do you suggest as an escrow - or will you agree with my choice?

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08-16-2011 , 12:07 AM
I've requested Mason to close the thread due to all of the obvious insults. I've got more integrity than to continue to post on a thread which a bunch of disrespectful kids.
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08-16-2011 , 12:08 AM
quitter...so shocking
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08-16-2011 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
I've requested Mason to close the thread due to all of the obvious insults. I've got more integrity than to continue to post on a thread which a bunch of disrespectful kids.
So I guess what everyone was saying all along (and I kept defending you about) was right all along. You are a coward with no respect for your word and a quitter. At least you are smart enough to realize that you would get annihilated.

Good luck mate: I hope you are as good as you say at day trading - or you have a tough road ahead of you.
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08-16-2011 , 12:13 AM
Samo, It was obvious that you didn't want to play. There's no other reason to insult me like that unless you were trying to piss me off so bad that I wouldn't play.

I was being polite when I said you had a 20% shot. To be honest I don't think you could win.
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08-16-2011 , 12:13 AM
Elaborate level is elaborate
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08-16-2011 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Samo, It was obvious that you didn't want to play. There's no other reason to insult me like that unless you were trying to piss me off so bad that I wouldn't play.

I was being polite when I said you had a 20% shot. To be honest I don't think you could win.
Once again (I have to say it multiple times to get it through your thick head), I am willing and eager to play. I will buy my plane ticket within 24 hours of you putting the money in escrow. I am not backing out. So the only way the match won't happen is if YOU back out.

There are only two possibilities here:

(1) You back out (undoubtedly citing my exasperated post as your excuse to not play me)

(2) You escrow the money and we play.

There is no other option. Which is it?

P.S.: Why would "pissing you off" be a deterrent for you to play? If you consider yourself such a favorite, you should be even more eager to separate me from my money if you are pissed at me, right?
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08-16-2011 , 12:20 AM
I think we can likely confirm that Gabe Costner is the poker worlds new, biggest tool box. His reaction to snap decline the match based on one annoyed post by Samo is the most cowardly thing Ive seen in the poker world. Gabe 'All Talk' Costner, perfect and fitting, chicken ****.
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08-16-2011 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
I was being polite when I said you had a 20% shot. To be honest I don't think you could win.
yet you only want to play for $40k
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08-16-2011 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ziplok
I think we can likely confirm that Gabe Costner is the poker worlds new, biggest tool box. His reaction to snap decline the match based on one annoyed post by Samo is the most cowardly thing Ive seen in the poker world. Gabe 'All Talk' Costner, perfect and fitting, chicken ****.
Amen! I guess I actually had hope that he wasn't such a pathetic loser. Guess the rest of you guys on this thread had it right all along.

I'm going to bed now and will probably go back to not checking 2p2 very often (as I did before this thread). If he miraculously agrees to play me, someone please pm me on Bluefire or email me (if you know my email - I don't want to post it here) to let me know.

I am of course - and will always be - willing to play him as long as there is an escrow such that I don't have to worry about him backing out after I buy my plane ticket. In case this will serve as any added incentive, I will put up to an additional 125K on myself at -150 (much better line than before) if that might somehow make the match happen.
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08-16-2011 , 12:31 AM
I'd like to point out that no later than 3 posts after I said this:

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Originally Posted by Mr Beer
2:1 on Gabe claims to be offended and won't honour the agreement for that reason.
Gabe 'All Talk' then said this:

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Originally Posted by EDDtown
I'd rather challenge you to a fist fight than a poker match now.
So I pretty much called it.

So Gabe, you backed out of a 40K match, will you take up my challenge of providing an online account in your name to prove your 'doomswitch' babblings are just so much hot air as well?
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08-16-2011 , 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Samo, It was obvious that you didn't want to play. There's no other reason to insult me like that unless you were trying to piss me off so bad that I wouldn't play.

I was being polite when I said you had a 20% shot. To be honest I don't think you could win.
The obvious issue here is that Samo wants to get the money in escrow before he flies down to play. The only thing I've seen you say about escrow is that once Samo gets there the two of you can escrow the money with Dolan in his box or whatever. IMO, it is perfectly reasonable for Samo to want to have the money escrowed before taking the time and expense to travel.

A second issue is that Samo wants you to provide references for Dolan so that he would feel safe sending him $40,000.


Perhaps the two of you had some miscommunications over the above two issues .... I don't know whether or not you did. But that is the clear issue and this could all be settled very easily. All you have to do is provide some references for Dolan and then arrange to have the money escrowed before Samo flies down. Conversely, Samo can get one of his high stake friends/acquaintances to escrow the money and the two of you would arrange to have that done before he flies out.


There has been some flying off the handle on your part IMO. To be fair Samo has started adding some minor insults to his posts to you as it appears he has gotten increasingly annoyed at what he perceives to be intentional delaying on your part.


I think that if everybody just calmed down and made a good faith effort to solve the two very clearly stated issues above that there is a chance this match could still happen.
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