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07-21-2011 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
GL to you all, I'll see you on the felt sometime
Well no, you're backing down from all the challenges.
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07-21-2011 , 07:42 PM
the chips were touching only 4 of his fingers instead of 5, I had to 5bet AI w KQ
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07-21-2011 , 07:47 PM
I just figured it out, Gabe posts/talks as if he's from the old ESPN show "TILT".

His mentality fits in perfect with that entire show. If he ever needs $$$, he just takes his roll and the doubles up and triples it.

Plus, he wipes his butt with 7k, 8k if he had chili.
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07-21-2011 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Wow, My IQ has dropped just from responding to the morons on this thread.
I only saw one, and I'm not sure his IQ could drop too much lower and still be able to turn on a computer.

Oh, and my own live tip of the day - it's not a tell if the person is doing it all the time. I had an older guy next to me tell me after a hand that I was bouncing my leg up and down, which was true, and that I should be careful not to give away information. What he apparently didn't realize until he decided to look for a "tell" is that I bounce my leg roughly 80% of the time when my feet are flat on the floor, and have ever since I was a kid (touch of hyperactivity FTW). I was doing it AS HE WAS TELLING ME ABOUT MY TELL 2 MINUTES AFTER THE HAND WAS OVER. I'm sure I probably have tells when I play live (something I work on every time I play), but that's not one of them.

Even recreational players can develop a "feel" for certain circumstances and players (I've bluffed players off hands based on my read as well), and no credible poker pro would discount the importance of developing this skill as one of many to improve their game if they spend any significant time playing live.

Last edited by SGT RJ; 07-21-2011 at 08:08 PM.
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07-21-2011 , 08:19 PM
This thread is great and is a classic example of how egos and delusion will keep the games profitable for the rest of us. This fish actually believes the **** he's writing. LOL. You couldn't beat an online $100nl game bud, nevermind getting your clocked cleaned by Samoleous. But keep living in your fantasy world. If we were to awaken you from your brain-dead slumber then it'd take some of the dead money out of the poker economy.
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07-21-2011 , 08:28 PM
after reading this whole thread my first thought is that i really really hope gabe hits a 7 figure score this/next year.
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07-21-2011 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Janky - But the part your missing is that there is 200% more skill in live poker, therefor the top live player is going to be the most skillful of the 2,, therefor why I say the best player..
Lmfao.
Omg OP. Where are you getting all these ridiculous statistics that pepper this circular, illogical argument?

You run around everything that is said and state the same thing in different misspelled words each time. And don't even back it up. For example: you said there are a "few" differences in live vs online. How does that add up to 100% more skill level?

I wouldn't believe this was real if it weren't for you playing with dali.
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07-21-2011 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
I lost everything I had using 10x leverage shorting bank stocks using FAZ on a day the Dow was up 475 & closed down 500
What a ****ing idiot.
Who puts 100% of their bankroll into a single levered position? That isn't day trading that is just another form of degen gambling.

Apparently you haven't heard of bankroll management for either poker OR investing.

Care to provide the date you lost everything?
The day the DOW was both up 475 and down 500 pts?
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07-21-2011 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
I only saw one, and I'm not sure his IQ could drop too much lower and still be able to turn on a computer.

Oh, and my own live tip of the day - it's not a tell if the person is doing it all the time. I had an older guy next to me tell me after a hand that I was bouncing my leg up and down, which was true, and that I should be careful not to give away information. What he apparently didn't realize until he decided to look for a "tell" is that I bounce my leg roughly 80% of the time when my feet are flat on the floor, and have ever since I was a kid (touch of hyperactivity FTW). I was doing it AS HE WAS TELLING ME ABOUT MY TELL 2 MINUTES AFTER THE HAND WAS OVER. I'm sure I probably have tells when I play live (something I work on every time I play), but that's not one of them.

Even recreational players can develop a "feel" for certain circumstances and players (I've bluffed players off hands based on my read as well), and no credible poker pro would discount the importance of developing this skill as one of many to improve their game if they spend any significant time playing live.
that tilts the hell out of me when someone is bouncing their leg and I can feel it.
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07-21-2011 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
GL to you all, I'll never see you on the felt.
FYP

You already made an offer to meet on the felt, it was accepted and then YOU pussied out. You don't get to do it twice.

Your word is worthless.
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07-21-2011 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
after reading this whole thread my first thought is that i really really hope gabe hits a 7 figure score this/next year.
Don't worry it'll happen for sure as long as the WSOP makes a rule against wearing sunglasses
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07-21-2011 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathAndTaxes
What a ****ing idiot.
Who puts 100% of their bankroll into a single levered position? That isn't day trading that is just another form of degen gambling.

Apparently you haven't heard of bankroll management for either poker OR investing.

Care to provide the date you lost everything?
The day the DOW was both up 475 and down 500 pts?
May 6, 2010 in which the Dow Jones Industrial Average plunged about 900 points—or about nine percent—only to recover those losses within minutes. It was the second largest point swing, 1,010.14 points, that's the only thing I can find about a big swing lately.
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07-22-2011 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
I only saw one, and I'm not sure his IQ could drop too much lower and still be able to turn on a computer.

Oh, and my own live tip of the day - it's not a tell if the person is doing it all the time. I had an older guy next to me tell me after a hand that I was bouncing my leg up and down, which was true, and that I should be careful not to give away information. What he apparently didn't realize until he decided to look for a "tell" is that I bounce my leg roughly 80% of the time when my feet are flat on the floor, and have ever since I was a kid (touch of hyperactivity FTW). I was doing it AS HE WAS TELLING ME ABOUT MY TELL 2 MINUTES AFTER THE HAND WAS OVER. I'm sure I probably have tells when I play live (something I work on every time I play), but that's not one of them.

Even recreational players can develop a "feel" for certain circumstances and players (I've bluffed players off hands based on my read as well), and no credible poker pro would discount the importance of developing this skill as one of many to improve their game if they spend any significant time playing live.
the tell isn't when you bounce your leg, it's when you stop. this is actually one of the more reliable tells in poker actually..
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07-22-2011 , 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by evildeadalive
the tell isn't when you bounce your leg, it's when you stop. this is actually one of the more reliable tells in poker actually..
Yeah I use this one all the time live. Among the most reliable, easy to spot.
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07-22-2011 , 05:01 AM
So basically OP has a massive edge live against people who don't understand physical tells but has little or no edge if they take standard precautions (sunglasses, hoodie, not doing the Snoopy happy dance when they get pocket Aces). How is that in anyway exceptional OP? Your saying you have an edge against fish and not so much against thinking players. Good for you but that doesn't make you one of the best players in the world.

You really should take that heads up challenge. I suspect that you would get beat so bad it might actually penetrate your delusions.
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07-22-2011 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by frozendonk
So basically OP has a massive edge live against people who don't understand physical tells but has little or no edge if they take standard precautions (sunglasses, hoodie, not doing the Snoopy happy dance when they get pocket Aces). How is that in anyway exceptional OP? Your saying you have an edge against fish and not so much against thinking players. Good for you but that doesn't make you one of the best players in the world.

You really should take that heads up challenge. I suspect that you would get beat so bad it might actually penetrate your delusions.
Exactly. OP seems to be saying that he has 200% edge over people who aren't aware of the concept of physical tells. So when they get dealt big hand he knows it every time because hey, they just have no idea that someone could be watching them for a physical reaction.

Is there anyone who plays poker who has "no idea" about physical tells that has more than 20 bucks to their name? I doubt it. But if there is one I suppose OP would have a 200% edge over them but then again, so would my 7 year old daughter.

Best thread I've read in a long time!
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07-22-2011 , 08:18 AM
wow this thread is so bad and OP is so stupid I don't even know what to say.....
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07-22-2011 , 09:05 AM
now can we close the thread? Seems the two main lame-o-s are done with each other...
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07-22-2011 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by prodonkey
May 6, 2010 in which the Dow Jones Industrial Average plunged about 900 points—or about nine percent—only to recover those losses within minutes. It was the second largest point swing, 1,010.14 points, that's the only thing I can find about a big swing lately.
that is not what he is alluding to. he said it was first up 475 and then down 500. this is pretty significant since he was shorting. he leveraged himself too high and was not able to hold his position until the market turned. had it started off plummeting it obviously wold not have been a problem.
he basically had his whole bankroll on the table, which i guess is his own choice. however, it seems a bit hypocritical to go on rants about how 99% of people have no idea what they are doing when trading when he himself is degening it up.
ofcourse he probably just sees himself as being unlucky instead of realizing he was the one who put himself in a situation where he ran a high risk of going broke. he seems to have the same kind of idea when it comes to poker. inflate the pot with weak hand, bluffcatch with cards that beat half of the opponents bluffing range.
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07-22-2011 , 09:50 AM
OP has to be the biggest ****** on this forum, quickly delete your acc plz
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07-22-2011 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by prodonkey
that tilts the hell out of me when someone is bouncing their leg and I can feel it.
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Originally Posted by evildeadalive
the tell isn't when you bounce your leg, it's when you stop. this is actually one of the more reliable tells in poker actually..
I try to control it if someone asks me to stop, which has happened, although not at a poker table. It's an unconscious tic, I never sit down and decide to bounce my leg, I just look down and realize I've been doing it for an hour.

Not in my case, I was still bouncing along during the hand in question. If the bouncing stops, what is that supposed to mean? Bluff or nuts? I'd guess bluff.
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07-22-2011 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
I try to control it if someone asks me to stop, which has happened, although not at a poker table. It's an unconscious tic, I never sit down and decide to bounce my leg, I just look down and realize I've been doing it for an hour.

Not in my case, I was still bouncing along during the hand in question. If the bouncing stops, what is that supposed to mean? Bluff or nuts? I'd guess bluff.
It depends on the context of the hand.
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07-22-2011 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by craigmarq
It depends on the context of the hand.
IIRC, I was bluffing (standard cbet bluff, I had AK and had 3 bet pre and failed to connect), and my leg was bouncing the entire time, from start to finish of the hand.

I'll have to keep an eye on that, I guess, and make sure if I've been bouncing, I keep it going no matter what I hold. If I'm still, it's probably because of how I'm seated in the chair, and I'm not going to start in the middle of a hand if I haven't been doing it up until that time. It would be really hard to eliminate the tic altogether, I've been doing it since I was a kid.
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07-22-2011 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jedi
Also this. Someone needs to compile the entire list of challenges and backing off that EDD has done ITT
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=320



i compiled his back and forths with the first challenger in this post. somewhat amusing.



Helpfully,

ucantcme63
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07-22-2011 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FlatTard
Man oh man

I ve not been on in awhile and like costanza said I keep meaning to spend time well and reading strat etc but this thread beggars belief.

I keep on wondering if u r sitting there with other live pro s and having a laugh with this.

Seriously Im wondering if u r saying "if I write that do u think they'll realise its a level, no one could believe anyone could be this arrogant, egotistical, conceited, ignorant and unwilling to listen to anyone elses opinion"

I genuinely hope that this all a massive level.

I hope to god that u don't actually believe what u r saying.

If this is all a level wp, but the fact that daliman played with u live and u seem to voice this nonsense in public makes me doubt it is.

With that said u realise u have made numerous claims without any evidence, boasted about your skills and even after being called out have managed to back away and yet maintained your air of superiority and still have the delusional belief that you are correct.

You have ridiculed everyone who has dared to doubt you and never addressed the reasonable and well argued claims against your beliefs.

The laser light stuff is incredible, seriously read it back, pretend you didnt write it, does it not sound like tin foil hats to protect against aliens?

I honestly believe you may have mental problems. I have actually laughed aloud at alot of this, its terrifying.

I particularly enjoyed the bit when after going broke your girlfriend split with you but got back together when u were running good at daytrading, and u chalked it up to your decision, and not your bank balance.

I think it was on here I read it and it s worth repeating;

"Positive variance makes the otherwise intelligent man blind" its better than that but you maybe get the jist, or u can just igonore/dismiss/move the goalposts as with every other critiscism.

get help


will you please respond to this?



Fervently,

ucantcme63
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