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07-21-2011 , 05:58 PM
OP,

I can't help it. Usually I don't do this, but here we go:

I'm a native German speaker, and I CRINGE every time I read one of your posts. Now I'm obviously very far from being perfect with my English spelling and grammar, however I'm very close to it in my native tongue (which can't be said about yourself). When someone like myself already notices it, then, oh boy, it's bad.

Now while some of your points might or might not be valid, I just definatly can't take you're posts seriously. Their written like youv never been too school in you're life.
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07-21-2011 , 06:00 PM
In summary:

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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Id play any online player in a live setting anytime
No, he wont.
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07-21-2011 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
This thread could actually be used a good experiment in human nature. The stockmarket pretty much always fade the majority of people, 1% of the traders make money off the 99% that try. The crowd always believes each is right & always ends up getting schooled by the minority. This thread is a good example of how that works. 1 Person provides logical reasoning & results behind analyses, Yet the crowd gets emotional & uses illogical reasoning to conclude their opinions.

The majority of idiots is usually wrong vs. a small group of intelligent people. Many of you here posting opinions should do more thinking & less talking

my favorite so far, keep it up guys!
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07-21-2011 , 06:07 PM
Sugar Nut, Are you being serious?

I think my post are written out in a much more logical manner than anyone one else, I started a thread with a statement whether you or anyone else want believe is the truth.

I have to listen to ridicule over & over again from thoughtless posters & have basically defended myself against a crowd of other posters with no integrity, and I'm the one your talking about. wow?
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07-21-2011 , 06:09 PM
I can't imagine why anyone would want to ridicule the logical and easy to prove statements that have populated your posts.
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07-21-2011 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sugar Nut
OP,

I can't help it. Usually I don't do this, but here we go:

I'm a native German speaker, and I CRINGE every time I read one of your posts. Now I'm obviously very far from being perfect with my English spelling and grammar, however I'm very close to it in my native tongue (which can't be said about yourself). When someone like myself already notices it, then, oh boy, it's bad.

Now while some of your points might or might not be valid, I just definatly can't take you're posts seriously. Their written like youv never been too school in you're life.
he's a boss daytrader though dude.


Amiably,

ucantcme63
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07-21-2011 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by kfs
In summary:



No, he wont.
Yup.
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07-21-2011 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown View Post
I've pretty much proven my point here, anyone arguing at this point is in denial & bending facts to their point of view.

I feel sorry for the ones here that continue to argut against someone that obviously has better results & just might know more than them. It's pretty sad.


honest question, are you serious?


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Id play any online player in a live setting anytime


presumably to prove your point (as well as the fact that you can extract more money out of any game than any other player if the cards break even)?


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Originally Posted by EDDtown View Post
If I turned down 65k to not where online poker logo, then I definately back up what I say.


come on man with the spelling mistakes. also, you have not backed up your OP at all. you avoid responding to any reasonable criticisms or objections to your claims, and if you do respond it is with more hilarious blanket statements or unverifiable claims.


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Originally Posted by EDDtown View Post
I never said that I wouldn't play him, I would if I ran into him & had time on my hands, but its not worth my time to schedule anything to do so. I don't see the point, I don't believe I'm obligated to play anyone.


can you please explain? honestly, will you please explain? this statement implies that you would NOT play any live poker player any time in any setting (in fact not close considering he will be more than accommodating) as well as that you do NOT back up what you say.


i would really appreciate a response to this or any of the other numerous similar posts in this thread.


Graciously,

ucantcme63







Quote:
Originally Posted by EDDtown
Sugar Nut, Are you being serious?

I think my post are written out in a much more logical manner than anyone one else, I started a thread with a statement whether you or anyone else want believe is the truth.

I have to listen to ridicule over & over again from thoughtless posters & have basically defended myself against a crowd of other posters with no integrity, and I'm the one your talking about. wow?


EDDtown, you have yet to respond to any of my posts. Is there a reason that you will not respond to me? Thank you for your valuable time in reading this (and possibly a reponse).



Warmly,

ucantcme63
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07-21-2011 , 06:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EDDtown
This thread could actually be used a good experiment in human nature. The stockmarket pretty much always fade the majority of people, 1% of the traders make money off the 99% that try. The crowd always believes each is right & always ends up getting schooled by the minority. This thread is a good example of how that works. 1 Person provides logical reasoning & results behind analyses, Yet the crowd gets emotional & uses illogical reasoning to conclude their opinions.

The majority of idiots is usually wrong vs. a small group of intelligent people. Many of you here posting opinions should do more thinking & less talking
quote one post in this thread where you have provided analyses to back up your OP title. please do it.



Receptively,

ucantcme63
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07-21-2011 , 06:18 PM
It seems to be like you are saying:

The top ten players in the world at LIVE are always going to be LIVE players.

This seems obvious.

I would also suggest:

The top ten players in the world ONLINE will always be ONLINE players.
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07-21-2011 , 06:21 PM
ucantseeme63, The main reason I ignore you is because your questions lack any real meaning, You made a statement about my spelling as if I couldn't spell the word correctly if I wanted to. I'm doing several things at once & trying to type as fast as possilbe, assuming that the readers here will actually get the real meaning rather than trial me for a spelling B, Maybe I'm assuming too much confidence in the readers here.

That question in & of itself tells me that your other questions are not worth answering.
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07-21-2011 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Also just a last post for the day, I've pretty much proven my point here, anyone arguing at this point is in denial & bending facts to their point of view.


As far as playing the online kid HU, I believe he will be a great player because he at least is open minded to the fact that I might be right & seems willing to learn, If I had to guess probably his main motivation is to find out something that he might not be aware of, That's the key to getting better.

I feel sorry for the ones here that continue to argut against someone that obviously has better results & just might know more than them. It's pretty sad.


I never said that I wouldn't play him, I would if I ran into him & had time on my hands, but its not worth my time to schedule anything to do so. I don't see the point, I don't believe I'm obligated to play anyone. Do you know how much luck is involved in playing HU, variance. Would who wins & loses really prove much in the short term?
it would probably prove as much as those tournaments you keep going on about. how can mention variance in posts that suit you, while totally ignoring it when it doesn't. obviously you yourself must realize you were running incredible hot when you final tabled those tournaments if you realize it plays a factor in the hu match. ofcourse you probably think that you were just running normally in those tournaments and every time you lose you are below ev.
btw, why are not playing playing more tournaments if you have such a huge edge? at the rate you final table it is obviously way more profitable than grinding 5/10.
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07-21-2011 , 06:24 PM
Janky - That statement is partly correct in that I believe the top online players would remain the top online players against live players & top live players would beat top online players.

But the part your missing is that there is 200% more skill in live poker, therefor the top live player is going to be the most skillful of the 2,, therefor why I say the best player.

In live poker all the same elements exist as online, plus many more variables, That will make sense even to a 5 year old.
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07-21-2011 , 06:28 PM
PKZ - I wasn't running hot in those tournaments, As a matter of fact I ran terrible on most of the final tables. Last year when I had the chip lead in the main event 50 players left, the most cards I caught were day 7. I grinded my stack for days mostly restealing from online players. I won very few hands at showdown.

I could repeat the performance if I wanted. If I want to be in the cardplayer of the year race, I would just go play a bunch of tournies. In my game there isn't as much variance because I'm not in there flipping marginal equity EV situations. I'm keeping pots small & reading players.
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07-21-2011 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
assuming that the readers here will actually get the real meaning rather than trial me for a spelling B
You have to admire the poetry of this right here.
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07-21-2011 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
I could repeat the performance if I wanted. If I want to be in the cardplayer of the year race, I would just go play a bunch of tournies. In my game there isn't as much variance because I'm not in there flipping marginal equity EV situations. I'm keeping pots small & reading players.
Surely this has to confirm that he's trolling us? Let me get this straight, you really think you can final table a bunch of tournaments at will?

Haha if you're not joking you're definitely proving to us that you know next to nothing about how tournament poker works.
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07-21-2011 , 06:37 PM
Well good luck to most of you anyway, some of you here will need a lot of it for sure.

Didn't mean to ruffle the feathers of the RANGE FINDING, POLARIZING, UTG + 3, MISCLICKING crowd, & sorry if I made you actually do some real thinking about how the top players actually play live.

By the way I don't really care to play anyone HU, but if you insist I'm usually in Biloxi & if your in town & want to play, PM me.
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07-21-2011 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
This thread could actually be used a good experiment in human nature. The stockmarket pretty much always fade the majority of people, 1% of the traders make money off the 99% that try. The crowd always believes each is right & always ends up getting schooled by the minority. This thread is a good example of how that works. 1 Person provides logical reasoning & results behind analyses, Yet the crowd gets emotional & uses illogical reasoning to conclude their opinions.

The majority of idiots is usually wrong vs. a small group of intelligent people. Many of you here posting opinions should do more thinking & less talking
ok, but atleast so far, you are the only one in this thread who has admitted going broke by trading. and yes, being leveraged to the point where you have to sell off early is your fault.
most poker pros don't sit with their whole roll at the table trying to take a shot at a game they can't afford.
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07-21-2011 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
ucantseeme63, The main reason I ignore you is because your questions lack any real meaning, You made a statement about my spelling as if I couldn't spell the word correctly if I wanted to. I'm doing several things at once & trying to type as fast as possilbe, assuming that the readers here will actually get the real meaning rather than trial me for a spelling B, Maybe I'm assuming too much confidence in the readers here.
you don't believe that someone that can make good money daytrading and has legitimate knowledge of the market would CONSTANTLY misspell definitely, CONSTANTLY misuse where/wear, your/you're, and there/their. I don't even think anyone that has graduated from a decent college does this.


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Originally Posted by EDDtown
That question in & of itself tells me that your other questions are not worth answering.
you don't respond to me because you have no reasonable response. in your one and only response to me thus far you avoided any question i had pertaining to your claims in this thread; and instead said something about my pertinent questions being worthless because i think you should be able to write as well as someone in middle school if you're going to claim to be as intelligent as you do.



Benevolently,

ucantcme63
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07-21-2011 , 06:39 PM
Man oh man

I ve not been on in awhile and like costanza said I keep meaning to spend time well and reading strat etc but this thread beggars belief.

I keep on wondering if u r sitting there with other live pro s and having a laugh with this.

Seriously Im wondering if u r saying "if I write that do u think they'll realise its a level, no one could believe anyone could be this arrogant, egotistical, conceited, ignorant and unwilling to listen to anyone elses opinion"

I genuinely hope that this all a massive level.

I hope to god that u don't actually believe what u r saying.

If this is all a level wp, but the fact that daliman played with u live and u seem to voice this nonsense in public makes me doubt it is.

With that said u realise u have made numerous claims without any evidence, boasted about your skills and even after being called out have managed to back away and yet maintained your air of superiority and still have the delusional belief that you are correct.

You have ridiculed everyone who has dared to doubt you and never addressed the reasonable and well argued claims against your beliefs.

The laser light stuff is incredible, seriously read it back, pretend you didnt write it, does it not sound like tin foil hats to protect against aliens?

I honestly believe you may have mental problems. I have actually laughed aloud at alot of this, its terrifying.

I particularly enjoyed the bit when after going broke your girlfriend split with you but got back together when u were running good at daytrading, and u chalked it up to your decision, and not your bank balance.

I think it was on here I read it and it s worth repeating;

"Positive variance makes the otherwise intelligent man blind" its better than that but you maybe get the jist, or u can just igonore/dismiss/move the goalposts as with every other critiscism.

get help
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07-21-2011 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by EDDtown
Well good luck to most of you anyway, some of you here will need a lot of it for sure.

Didn't mean to ruffle the feathers of the RANGE FINDING, POLARIZING, UTG + 3, MISCLICKING crowd, & sorry if I made you actually do some real thinking about how the top players actually play live.

By the way I don't really care to play anyone HU, but if you insist I'm usually in Biloxi & if your in town & want to play, PM me.
lol you already got a challenger.....


Good-naturedly,

ucantcme63
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07-21-2011 , 06:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ucantcme63
you don't believe that someone that can make good money daytrading and has legitimate knowledge of the market would CONSTANTLY misspell definitely, CONSTANTLY misuse where/wear, your/you're, and there/their.
Why is this hard to believe? There are self-taught traders out there that never needed to learn spelling, and after all there are very good poker players with horrendous English skills.
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07-21-2011 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FlatTard
Man oh man

I ve not been on in awhile and like costanza said I keep meaning to spend time well and reading strat etc but this thread beggars belief.

I keep on wondering if u r sitting there with other live pro s and having a laugh with this.

Seriously Im wondering if u r saying "if I write that do u think they'll realise its a level, no one could believe anyone could be this arrogant, egotistical, conceited, ignorant and unwilling to listen to anyone elses opinion"

I genuinely hope that this all a massive level.

I hope to god that u don't actually believe what u r saying.

If this is all a level wp, but the fact that daliman played with u live and u seem to voice this nonsense in public makes me doubt it is.

With that said u realise u have made numerous claims without any evidence, boasted about your skills and even after being called out have managed to back away and yet maintained your air of superiority and still have the delusional belief that you are correct.

You have ridiculed everyone who has dared to doubt you and never addressed the reasonable and well argued claims against your beliefs.

The laser light stuff is incredible, seriously read it back, pretend you didnt write it, does it not sound like tin foil hats to protect against aliens?

I honestly believe you may have mental problems. I have actually laughed aloud at alot of this, its terrifying.

I particularly enjoyed the bit when after going broke your girlfriend split with you but got back together when u were running good at daytrading, and u chalked it up to your decision, and not your bank balance.

I think it was on here I read it and it s worth repeating;

"Positive variance makes the otherwise intelligent man blind" its better than that but you maybe get the jist, or u can just igonore/dismiss/move the goalposts as with every other critiscism.

get help


He did not ridicule your spelling or grammar or English skills. Will you respond to him?



Zealously,

ucantcme63
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07-21-2011 , 06:43 PM
icantme - I'm also pretty good with pyschology, (big in Poker). I would say that your very detail oriented & put too much value in small details, Take a look at the forest sometime, much more beautiful than the trees.
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07-21-2011 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SoLost
Why is this hard to believe? There are self-taught traders out there that never needed to learn spelling, and after all there are very good poker players with horrendous English skills.
Darn, I thought they all had at least high school educations. Almost all intelligent people that graduate high school learn how to avoid the most common spelling and grammar mistakes. I may be wrong.



Respectfully,

ucantcme63
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