I just thought these two quotes look much better together.

EDDtown,

I think your points in this thread may well be very good ones - and as an almost exclusively online player, I suspect that I might be making a big mistake here with the following offer.

I can tell you that in the last four years or so, I have only played live a total of about 20-25 sessions - and most of those have come since Black Friday. Furthermore, I can tell you that I have NEVER even been to Las Vegas since becoming a poker player. If what you are saying is true, then you will have a huge edge over me, because I truly can't pick up much in the way of physical tells when I play live. Despite that, I am willing to offer you a challenge.

I will play you heads up live for any stakes that you wish. I will play deep stacked (say 300-500bb?) which is of course more in line with the live play that you have so much experience with (as opposed to my 100bb online experience). If the stakes are high enough, I will travel to anywhere that is convenient for you to set up this match. We can play for a predetermined amount - or if you prefer, for a given amount of time.

Again, I emphasize that I have hardly ever played live - so if your statements about live tells and reads are correct, then you will have a huge edge over me. Nonetheless, I am willing to take on the challenge: perhaps it will be a learning experience for me. If you are willing to take me up on the challenge, please send me a message. I only come on to 2p2 once every few days at the most, so please forgive me if I don't respond immediately. I am looking forward to hopefully playing you.

Niman

Cliffs: OP is bumhunter and can bumhunt live donks that give off huge tells about their hand. He is a better live tell bumhunter than online players who don't play live. Live players who are similar in skill to their online counterparts will have an advantage b/c they can read people tells.

Ed/Gabe, you're the greatest, I don't care what they say! I was surprised this thread was still happenning, you sure do know how to keep the crew going.

P.S. did you tell everyone who you are, I know a lot of folks are assuming your Gabe Costner.

I would play you if I ever ran into you, I live in biloxi MS . But its not about ego with me or even the money for that matter so I would never make a trip just to play someone. I would just tell you that if your ever in town or run into me in vegas to hit me up & we will play.


I don't even like playing HU live because its too slow , would have to have multiple dealers. I also will only play moderate stake in casinos. I would play much bigger outside of a casino with a normal deck of cards. I posted a thread earlier about why, There is technology in the casinos now that can be used to cheat. Infared lasers

LOL AWESOME

lol Mississippi

Oh Lord, please don't start the laser thing again, the whole thread's going to focus on that now.........

Thx man, you made my day .

You can say mississippi all you want, but the best players in the world per capita are from here

EDDtown, if you are willing to play for high enough stakes, I will come to Biloxi or anywhere else that you like to play. Because of the obvious dangers of infrared lasers used to cheat in casinos, we can either play in a casino of your choosing or hire our own dealers (perhaps through a neutral third party?). I'm not sure what you mean by HU being slow, but surely it will be worth your while if we play for high enough stakes?

Having been an mid stakes online pro (2/4NL to 5/10NL)for 6 years and high stakes live pro (10/20NL) for 2 years, I can testify that there are some live pros that do SOUL READ. I've played against one guy that would 100% always know when I was strong and when I was weak.

I had to play this bastard for many many hours because there were huge fishes in the table.. but all the money I took from the fishes I ended up handing over to him.

If Daliman would have not told that he indeed played live with that guy i would still believe this is a level.

The games we play here are tough at times, Includes players like Me, David Diaz, Tk Miles, John Dolan, Tyler Smith etc. My girlfriend also plays in the game & can play with anyone.


All of these players have multilple wins final tables in huge events, they all converse on strategy & pretty much kick ass

Some of them are hybrid online & live players, I would put them in a game against bobby room anyday, NL of course, not mixed games

Has op confirmed that he's Gabe Costner?

Ryan Lenighan also plays in the game, forgot to mention him, He had the chip lead in the main event most of the day monday , 16 million with 3 tables left

Adeeb Harb, considered one of the best PLO players in the world also plays there

name dropping? who cares

Nobody would except it seems someone decided to LOL Mississippi. I was just proving that the best players in the world per capita come from this area

Hard to argue with that considering the best man AND woman in the world live there.

Isn't there a famous hand with you and Kenna James where you limp/5bet and offered to show a 3 after James folded JJ face up? Maybe not Vegas? Do I have the wrong guy?

Op is Gabe Costner. He has confirmed it by confirming he played with me last week at Rio in a 5-10 game.

Something that I haven't mention & this is probably obvious, when I say the best players I'm only talking about no limit & pot limit games . These are the games in which the greatest tells are generated.


I don't want to mispeak & take anything away from mixed game players that may know certain games better. I can play most games, but I would expect to lose if I played triple draw, baducey etc. with Ivey or Brunson. So everyone has a different qualification when there talking best players,

That was at Foxwoods. I literally have never been to Vegas since before I knew the roles of poker. ... I used to play live twice a year when the WPT came to Foxwoods, but I stopped doing that about four years ago and had not played a single live hand in over three years until Black Friday.

If the OP's statements about live tells is correct, he's going to be in a huge +EV spot if he takes me up on my challenge. If he believes what he has been saying, I can't imagine why he wouldn't play me.