The "soul reader" never remembers or stipulates all the times his read was off and he donked off a ton of money trying to make a soul read hero call.

Is there a reason you completely ignore Daliman owning you?

It happens a lot, All you have to do to increase your edge is be right more than wrong. I 5 bet shoved KQ over the top of AA recently in a tournament, It happens, but I've also did the same thing with A8 off & have the guy so committed he calls the rest with 69 & win a huge pot, I'm right more than wrong & my reads are much more important than the story or the math, although that's a huge part

I'm voting 'troll'. Or maybe delusional.

Not trying to promote myself, but I'm writing a book on poker tells, so I'm definitely in the camp that think there are certain live game skills. But I find these arguments ridiculous. I think tells are very much underestimated, but I still think they can add maybe only 10-20% increase to a live player's win rate, depending on the stakes and skills of opponents, etc.

All this talk about the importance of 'soul reads' and how there's only so far fundamental poker theory can take you is just stupid. First of all, there is so much to the ebb and flow of the game, and in pattern recognition, and adapting to player competition. There is just so much to fundamental poker (in other words, online poker, devoid of tells) that most people never even scrape the surface of, that to think live reads are the way to step your game up is just silly and misguided.

So stop trollling, OP and others.

this certainly explains Lamb staring at his opponents. despite what so many want to believe, in live play you have to pay attention to your opponents actions and mannerisms

sorry loss of credibilty there for ya boobies

craigmarq, Owning me? Not sure what you mean. I played 5 10 with the guy , never played a hand with him mainly because he was never in a pot.

He watched me get coldecked for an hour, I was right on every pot I was in. He even said himself that i was super unlucky.

I believe his statement of you should learn to fold instead of go with your read when you know your right kind of summed up his poker mindset. I don't have to say much more than that.


And I hope Claudia & he get to play one day, Id probably lay 2 to 1

From the other ongoing live vs online thread...

Re: Why are the Young Internet Players dominating the “Old School” in the WSOP Main Event?

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MODS, ARE YOU THERE?? CAN'T YOU LOCK THIS THREAD

YOOOO, HOOOO, THIS IS ONLY THE 2957th THIS HAS GONE ROUND AND ROUND.

HOW IS THIS BETTERING THE FORUMS???????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????

raiseya, Had you rather talk about how Doug Lee is a toolbox or how great a guy shawn deeb is?

I've actually made a bid mistake by opening this thread, If too many begin to understand there's a whole new frontier out there, it might revolutionize poker. Still to this day, in 10 years I've never played with anyone I felt like I couldn't beat if we played long enough & the cards broke even.

I was actually in plenty of pots, just never hit anything until the big pot I won. Partially because of you, the game was easily the craziest ring game I've ever played in, with more than 80% of the hands 3bet preflop, and over 50% of them 4bet. Some people know how to be judicious with their hands, and I am FAR from a nit. That said, I'm not 4bet/bet/shoving bottom pair very often either. But sure, go ahead and try to pushing deepstacked WSOP Asians off hands, sounds like a great plan. Also, you didn't get colddecked; you played bad, in way too many hands, and paid for it. Closest thing to a colddeck was your JJ vs AJ hand, which, while sucking, was your own fault because of your insane aggro play, (plus it was only for like $850). I only said you were unlucky because you seemed like a nice guy and I owned you pretty hard in our conversation, (the table was laughing at how silly you sounded). You played bad, inflated far too many pots, (saw you lose at least 4 pots over 1k where 2nd pair beat you) then talked as if we are all beneath you anyway. Where craigmarq meant I owned you is in this thread, as you haven't refuted anything I have said effectively.


Regarding Claudia and I playing:
I will do this Friday, at Aria, say around 3:00, 5-10 NL freezeout, buy in for 2k each match, best 2 out of 3 matches. For the 2-1 on the sidebet, I will put up a minimum of 5k, and possibly as much as 50k,(or more).

I know you think this is all just talking crap, (and for you, I'm sure it is.),but I'VE DONE THIS BEFORE. Doubtful you or your GF have.

Now, as it happens, Dmoongirl sat in the game shortly after you left IIRC. Her I ain't playing. Girl has skillz, (internet player, obv).

So, to clarify, Gabe Costner starts a thread about live tells and ends up claiming that based on an 85th place finish in the ME, that his wife Claudia Crawford is the best female player in the world and the reason that she is the best female player in the world is because she was taught by the best player in the world which is him.

This is about right.

Do I play poker? I have made more money than you at poker and also win online. Because of this, it's easy to tell from how you type that you have no clue what you're talking about. Your comment about where do I come from is further proof of your delusion though. You come on the forum with 70 posts to your name, proceed to make a fool of yourself, and actually think you have a clue what you're talking about. Oh and Daliman owned you. Hard. Lock it up.

This guy seems like he's living a life of delusion everywhere he goes. He probably thought it was everyone else who was the fool and couldn't figure out why they were laughing.

LOL, I remember this gem too. Obv poker is a dick-measuring contest with you. For me, it's a way to put food on my family. Couldn't resist a Bushism.

Obv stick in that "if the cards broke even" part so you always have a ready-made excuse. "I'd have beat that Durrrr kid, if he hadn't just got lucky those 47 hands".


But yes, don't alert us "internet kids" that the whole new frontier out there that might revolutionize poker is that live players are better at poker, and tells are everything.

REVOLUTIONARY!

Daliman, Now you are just lying.


I wasn't even playing aggressive, you saw the one play where I 4 bet the hand I was ahead in, that's the only aggressive play i made

Plus getting in ahead with JJ against AJ is my fault, So you don't want to be this far ahead in a hand?

And you don't think flopping a Q high flush with a gutshot straight flush draw against a K high flush is a colddeck? What

Owned me in the conversation? Regardless of what you or anyone else at the table thought, it's the truth. The truth doesn't change because of what anyone else thinks, these are all facts

HILARIOUS, do you realize how many takers you could get on this? GET REAL

Story checks out, (Girlfriend, btw).

Vanessa is currently a sad duck.

Boobies4me, LOL


Now your making me laugh

also, EDDtown, if you can beat any player in the world (as long as the cards break even), isn't your time much too valuable to be spent in this thread?

It doesn't even matter to me, It's not about ego or anything like that, just telling the truth, I put my money where my mouth is, If I turned down 65k to not where online poker logo, then I definately back up what I say.

Id play any online player in a live setting anytime

I believe durrrr is awaiting any challengers

I'm daytrading now, so this just kill some time while trading. I was trying to bring some truth to light about poker because so many online players are delusional about the live game, however I guess posting that on an online forum might ruffle some feathers. It wasn't my intention, but some people have to learn the hard way

dude you've DEFINITELYmessed up to/too, your/you're, there/their, and even wear/where in this thread. come on

You made at LEAST 5 3bets in the 2 hours you were there(2x vs me), with a few 4/5 bets thrown in for good measure, so you were playing very aggressive,(as was most of the table). You might have been colddecked once in that flush vs flush hand, but don't remember if it was raised. Either way, that was one hand. Obv you won a few big ones too, or you lost more than 3k, (which I still think is low, pretty sure you rebought 2x,) but it barely matters)

What DOES matter, however, is this: Are you and your GF going to set up this match with me at Aria on Friday, or are you all talk?

lol u suck

are there live tells in daytrading that you exploit?

can you beat anyone in the world heads up in daytrading? (if variance evens out obviously)

would you assume i am delusional about the live game?

do you think you ruffled feathers with this thread?

am i going to eventually learn the hard way if i continue to play live poker?