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Old 01-19-2015, 10:57 AM   #226
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Re: Lex Veldhuis: "Antonio Esfandiari is a massive douche."

I thought lex was good friends with negreanu, some of the examples he gives as to what he doesnt like, screams of dn character.
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Old 01-19-2015, 12:22 PM   #227
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Now in this video, Lex talks about Antonio inviting him to dinner two different times and balking when Lex asks to bring a +4. I commend Lex for his loyalty to his friends, but truthfully asking for a +4 is aggressive. AND, Lex doesn't know this about Antonio, but he generally likes smaller, intimate dinners (so does Phil Laak by the way -
This is like reading pubescent girls dear diary entry during her monthly bleed.
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Old 01-19-2015, 01:22 PM   #228
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Antonio has admitted to being a massive nerd in his teens, who very likely got bullied a lot, but not laid. Then he learned magic tricks etc to get appreciation.
After he finally got approval for winning in a game of chance, he simply turned into the sort of bully he always feared when he was younger, which many weak souls do, in one way or another.
Ofc AE is acting plainly pathetic, so obviously overcompensating, now that he has success, that he has become a travesty of a personality.

I guess that Lex likely had a normal, nice childhood. Having friends and gf's, doing sport and party etc, so he has a very hard time to understand the dysfunctions in AE's behaviour.

Please be nice to the mentally impaired, Lex
I remember in an interview after the One Drop in 2012 (I think it was a radio interview, probably somewhere on Youtube), Antonio said he got into magic to impress girls because he was utterly hopeless with them. However, in that same interview, he said he lost his virginity at 14. So it didn't quite add up.

What you say definitely makes sense. The typical unpopular nerd with no friends who got badly bullied at school, then turns to bullying others in adulthood once he gains fame and riches.
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Old 01-19-2015, 02:35 PM   #229
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Old 01-19-2015, 02:46 PM   #230
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Antonio has admitted to being a massive nerd in his teens, who very likely got bullied a lot, but not laid. Then he learned magic tricks etc to get appreciation.
After he finally got approval for winning in a game of chance, he simply turned into the sort of bully he always feared when he was younger, which many weak souls do, in one way or another.
Ofc AE is acting plainly pathetic, so obviously overcompensating, now that he has success, that he has become a travesty of a personality.

I guess that Lex likely had a normal, nice childhood. Having friends and gf's, doing sport and party etc, so he has a very hard time to understand the dysfunctions in AE's behaviour.

Please be nice to the mentally impaired, Lex
It probably was tough for him. Let's face it, the average American is a moron and he was the Iranian kid named Amir. But still, high school ends and you don't need to shove your fame into everyone's face just because teenagers are stupid.
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Old 01-19-2015, 05:09 PM   #231
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I'm surprised this thread got this big, probably should advise people to not say they don't like anyone in the future
why? is this really a problem? i would guess that lex is aware that some of his strong opinions may be disagreeable to some people. so be it.
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Old 01-19-2015, 05:19 PM   #232
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Re: Lex Veldhuis: "Antonio Esfandiari is a massive douche."

LOL a grown man complaining about these things, insanity....
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Old 01-19-2015, 05:31 PM   #233
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Re: Lex Veldhuis: "Antonio Esfandiari is a massive douche."

havent read a single post itt but i did watch the vid

doesnt surprise me at all really. I remember feeling so disgusted after watching a pokernews interview post the 2nd 1 milly one drop he did where he fell short of the money..that was followed by this gem on twitter - "Thank you to all my friends and fans for the support over the One Drop last few days. I have been in bed since the bust- literally the worst"

antonio lives in his own world
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Old 01-19-2015, 05:32 PM   #234
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Antonio has admitted to being a massive nerd in his teens, who very likely got bullied a lot, but not laid. Then he learned magic tricks etc to get appreciation.
After he finally got approval for winning in a game of chance, he simply turned into the sort of bully he always feared when he was younger, which many weak souls do, in one way or another.
Ofc AE is acting plainly pathetic, so obviously overcompensating, now that he has success, that he has become a travesty of a personality.

I guess that Lex likely had a normal, nice childhood. Having friends and gf's, doing sport and party etc, so he has a very hard time to understand the dysfunctions in AE's behaviour.

Please be nice to the mentally impaired, Lex
Basically this. This happens a ton in poker.
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Old 01-19-2015, 09:27 PM   #235
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alot of people dont seem to get that he wasnt pissed that he couldnt bring his friends but he was pissed teh way it was communicated

its a slight difference is somebody tell you

"listen buddy, its like a smaller thing today for dinner so i will not be able to fit your 4 friends, but tell you what, we do it another time"

or if somebody tell you

"yeah, well, this was supposed to be a small gathering today, and you cannot really bring your friends, because we want to keep it that way. but i give you an opportunity here and you are teh new guy here, so..."


2nd one id go ballistic as well and i dont even understand how there can be different opionions on teh matter, probably most people didnt even listen to teh podcast when he explained himself...



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and i like antonio, great guy for poker, great for TV but IMO you should never forget where you came from and treat people wit teh respect you want to be treated with
Stop spelling "teh" instead of "the"
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Old 01-19-2015, 09:38 PM   #236
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havent read a single post itt but i did watch the vid

doesnt surprise me at all really. I remember feeling so disgusted after watching a pokernews interview post the 2nd 1 milly one drop he did where he fell short of the money..that was followed by this gem on twitter - "Thank you to all my friends and fans for the support over the One Drop last few days. I have been in bed since the bust- literally the worst"

antonio lives in his own world
I remember this vividly, as probably the worst moment in poker history.
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Old 01-19-2015, 09:49 PM   #237
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Re: Lex Veldhuis: "Antonio Esfandiari is a massive douche."

Agreed with a lot of what has been said already:

1. AE has a magnificent throbbing ego
2. LV's ego was torn apart by AE's sheer size
3. LV wants to repair damage to his own ego by fighting AE in a winner take all public display of manhood.
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Old 01-19-2015, 10:33 PM   #238
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Re: Lex Veldhuis: "Antonio Esfandiari is a massive douche."

Lex Veldhuis is such a nice dude. He said ''kill yourself'' to me and i didnt understand it was a joke, i was confused. he didnt even tell me it was a joke. so now i'm not cool enough for Lex Veldhuis cuz i felt bad when he ask me to kill myself

Lex is definetly not a douchebag.
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Old 01-20-2015, 03:15 AM   #239
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Podcast was a joke. Joey is da man though. He said **** you if you go to clubs to just **** girls. LOL OK Buddy I wouldn't spend 400-500 a bottle if I just wanted to drink with friends I can do that anywhere.
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Old 01-20-2015, 03:22 AM   #240
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Podcast was a joke. Joey is da man though. He said **** you if you go to clubs to just **** girls. LOL OK Buddy I wouldn't spend 400-500 a bottle if I just wanted to drink with friends I can do that anywhere.
U can get girls pretty much anywhere as well so point is invalid.

Unless of course a 400$ bottle makes u more of a man than u actually are which amuses me actually that i think about it
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Old 01-20-2015, 03:48 AM   #241
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Old 01-20-2015, 04:28 AM   #242
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What do you mean? If DN has KJ Diamonds it would of been one of the sickest calls you'd ever seen.
Yeah that would have been some sick call. He would have been flipping vs Galfond and Galfond had the worst hand he could have. Not too mention DN practically jumped out of his seat when Galfond shoved. I guess he couldn't feel his energy
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Old 01-20-2015, 06:55 AM   #243
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One of the worst things I've seen Esfandiari do was how he treated Annette Oberstad at the PAD table. He joked about "oh you're going to fold to a little girl?" and showed her no respect. It was embarrassing how out of line he was.
In fairness she's an absolute **** to amateur players
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Old 01-20-2015, 08:49 AM   #244
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U can get girls pretty much anywhere as well so point is invalid.

Unless of course a 400$ bottle makes u more of a man than u actually are which amuses me actually that i think about it
Confirmed more douchy and laughable than someone insisting on writing teh instead of the.
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Old 01-20-2015, 08:58 AM   #245
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This looks very creepy.
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Old 01-20-2015, 09:08 AM   #246
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Re: Lex Veldhuis: "Antonio Esfandiari is a massive douche."

It's interesting to me that all Lex took away from the dinner offer encounter was how terrible and entitled he felt Antonio was, and then has let that fester for years so that he feels he needs to bring it up 6 years later. Wow. You have to have quite an ego to carry such a silly perceived slight around with you for so long. Seems to me he missed the fact that a well known poker pro was generous and considerate enough to offer To invite Lex to a dinner with him and another poker pro and his movie star gf in the first place. Seems like a very nice gesture to me.

So who is really the one with the outsized ego and sense of entitlement?
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Old 01-20-2015, 10:18 AM   #247
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^ Antonio ainec

Keep going Lex
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Old 01-20-2015, 10:39 AM   #248
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It's interesting to me that all Lex took away from the dinner offer encounter was how terrible and entitled he felt Antonio was, and then has let that fester for years so that he feels he needs to bring it up 6 years later. Wow. You have to have quite an ego to carry such a silly perceived slight around with you for so long. Seems to me he missed the fact that a well known poker pro was generous and considerate enough to offer To invite Lex to a dinner with him and another poker pro and his movie star gf in the first place. Seems like a very nice gesture to me.

So who is really the one with the outsized ego and sense of entitlement?
No its called integrity...
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Old 01-20-2015, 10:58 AM   #249
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Lex Veldhuis? Didn't he make a deep run in some big tournament about 6 years ago? I seem to recall the name, just barely tho...
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Old 01-20-2015, 12:05 PM   #250
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No its called integrity...
sure it's integrity to say you've carried around a 6 year butthurt when you have, in fact, carried around a 6 year old butthurt, but my point was to why he was so butthurt in the first place.

And integrity isn't really the issue anyway. We aren't talking about him lying and saying he loves Antonio. It's about having the maturity to understand that having integrity doesn't preclude someone from keeping private things private. No one has the requirement to air personal feelings on public media. Obviously, Lex wanted to do so, or he wouldn't have done so. He could have chosen to simply answer the question by saying something like "you know, that's a personal issue between myself and Antonio, and I don't think it is appropriate to discuss it here". But instead, he relished the opportunity to spill his guts and let out all the butthurt he has been carrying around all this time over such a meaningless perceived attack on his ego. Thus the enthusiastic "**** that guy!" when he was retelling the story.
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