Lex Veldhuis: "Antonio Esfandiari is a massive douche." - Page 12 - Poker News

Lets end this thread with a total breakdown of the situation, spoken in the only language that makes sense to use, Bro language -

If the question is whether Lex is out of line for bringing this up? Then the answer is yes.

When someone asks you to hang out, or to dinner and you are like cool "I'm going to bring 4 dudes" then it's an immediate "uh some other time" to any normal youngish dude. For a few ridic obvious reasons, the ones not brought up are - maybe they were planning on partying at a club after? To a guy who hangs out in the club scene a lot (antonio) it's just not an option to bring that many rando dudes to ur hooks. Get real, it's an awful look. Also maybe antonio was planning on paying? Like no we are going to Nobu - not dropping an extra G on ur 4 dude friends?

If you are Lex and a bit more socially competent, you'd say ah sorry man, kicking it with my 4 buddies from home some other time, and see how antonio reacts. Also I see Antonio just giving him a little flack being like ahh gonna turn me down man! Not like a gravely serious, not cool bro, not cool. Chill Lex, kind of hating.

If the questions is whether Antonio Esfandiari is a douche? The answer is yes.

But Douche isn't really a complete negative in this sense. It's more just a style. Dan Bilzerian is proudly douchey macho for example. Popping bottles, flashing money, designer clothes, etc. Antonio is going out to clubs in Hollywood or would hang out in the Marina in SF. Lex lives in Silver Lake, Antonio lives in Beverly hills. This is what Lex is getting at with the lets pop cristal comment. Antonio needs to just embrace this style difference, not send butthurt tweets saying how his feelings are hurt, holy moly that was lame. Be like lol ya man, wasn't probably trying to hang with your 4 dorky dudes you tool, can't believe this has bugged you, get a life. Then go back to ur life. Conversation done.

If the question is whether Antonio goes beyond just the lifestyle/ social stigma of douchey and is an annoying douchey personality that is off putting then the answer is also yes.

The whole "weeeee" "Live your life kid!" "How do you do it kid? Win all the money!" Wear no shoes at the table cuz i'm so sick (When you are a pretty big nit in reality) is cringe worthy. Wouldn't sweat it too much, antonio is crushing life. Antonio, f the haters. And Lex, yah he's douchey whatevs ur kinda hating but i feel you.

Convo done.

what kind of drugs do you do Maximose?

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01-22-2015 , 05:42 AM

#277

donjonnie

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i think this might be mainly a cultural thing.
i would be suprisedif most of the people on atonios sidew ere from the us while most people on lex side are from europe.

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01-22-2015 , 07:11 AM

#278

owster

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Originally Posted by Maximose1

Wall of Text ...

Too bad you didn't read the thread before you took the time to write this. Lex has explained that he didn't demand all his friends to be invited. He simply said he had plans with friends already, and since he didn't want to ditch them he could only come if they could join as well.

Antonio then responded by basically saying "wtf, you rather hang out with your friends than ME? Don't you realize what an opportunity this is for you!".

That's the issue Lex has, not that Antonio didn't want all his friends to join (which I can sympathize with and I'm sure Lex can as well).

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01-22-2015 , 08:08 AM

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ADACTA

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lol 20 pages over a statement, that is easy understandable.
(yes dont know how to set more posts / page

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01-22-2015 , 10:00 AM

#280

nada

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Let's be honest here.

Antonio is a MASSIVE DOUCHE

Lex is a MASSIVE DOUCHE

Pretty much 90% of those live pro idiots are MASSIVE DOUCHES who's egos have far exceeded anything else to do with their personalities.

I still find them all entertaining and I found this video entertaining just for the fact that lex was having a massive bitch. They all bitch about eachother without cameras in front of them but Lex has balls so I can respect that.

Anyway they all have tons of money and I'm mad. Get over it.

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01-22-2015 , 11:15 AM

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Donkem

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Massive douche:

Spoiler:

Not a douche:

Spoiler:

What they both need:

Spoiler:

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01-22-2015 , 06:28 PM

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the_straightner

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Originally Posted by MyweeweeISGreen

Allright lets hear Antonios side now?

why is your wee wee green?

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01-22-2015 , 06:31 PM

#283

JLBlades

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Not much of a story but kinda related.

09 Wsop I was chatting with one of the girls who did a lot of the interviews at the time on the circuit, and she said to me "who do you want to know about?" I said "Antonio" mostly because i've never been much of a fan and thought he came across as a douche. Without hesitation her answer was "slimeball." I said "i knew it" then someone came by and needed to speak to her. I didn't get a chance to follow up with the why for details.

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01-22-2015 , 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JLBlades

Back in the day AE was quite the womanizer, self-admitted in fact. He probably banged that reporter chick and she thought they had something special while for him it was just the flavor of the day. Hence slimeball lol.

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01-22-2015 , 10:27 PM

#285

MicroRoller

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Originally Posted by TheFly

More likely he isn't retweeting her tweets as much as she is retweeting his.

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01-22-2015 , 10:40 PM

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okcthunderfan

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I haven't met Antonio, but my brother has( who is just a regular guy) and Antonio invited my brother and his wife back to his place to have dinner. Also, a lot of these stories are from back in the day... it's possible he has changed.

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01-23-2015 , 07:41 PM

#287

the_straightner

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07-23-2015 , 12:50 AM

#288

IceIceman

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i'll say this about my dealings with Lex, always very genuine nice guy..no pretense

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07-23-2015 , 02:41 AM

#289

Deuce2High

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Antonio seemed to be slightly douching it up during the recent Twitch cash game stream.

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07-23-2015 , 02:52 AM

#290

Yumbula

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Slightly is being considerate.

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07-23-2015 , 03:53 AM

#291

volcano41

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Someone may be onto something with the feet/attention whore thing. Theres a creep in my local room who is 350+ lbs and comes in with sandals and brightly painted toenails. And hes the definition of a narcissist/bipolar german shepherd killer.

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07-23-2015 , 06:44 AM

#292

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

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Originally Posted by JLBlades

So he obv shot her down? What's the point here?

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07-23-2015 , 07:22 AM

#293

restorativejustice

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My one and only interaction with Lex was many years ago. He was intoxicated and acted horribly. So.

This thread is just so much so.

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07-23-2015 , 11:18 AM

#294

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Originally Posted by JLBlades

I count 3 douches

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using 2+2 Forums

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07-23-2015 , 11:19 AM

#295

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Originally Posted by ReliableSource

I count 3 douches

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using 2+2 Forums

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07-23-2015 , 11:33 AM

#296

yoyoplo

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Originally Posted by IceIceman

i'll say this about my dealings with Lex, always very genuine nice guy..no pretense

+1
Never met a nicer professional pokerplayer than him. Is nice to everybody doesn´t judge who you are etc etc.

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07-23-2015 , 01:00 PM

#297

Drrr.Gonzo

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poker players sleep so little especially when grinding cash games give the guy a break also tv is all about being a essentric douche look at phil hellmuth

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07-23-2015 , 02:32 PM

#298

Whose2know

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Originally Posted by smokybacon

This one is even worse:

Someone asks Tom Dwan how many times he's had sex:

"So durrrr come clean, what is it?"

Tom responds, "It's over zero"

Then everyone at the table laughs, and Antonio says "So we know you're not a virgin, that's good to know" and the rest of the table bursts out into yet more laughter, adding to Tom Dwan's embarrassment. I just think that was a real ****ish move by Antonio, almost playground school bullying mentality. Good to see that he hasn't grown up since elementary school.

He got what he deserved in the hand that followed, when Dwan absolutely owned his soul and took all his money. Antonio played the hand so shockingly bad, especially on the river, that I'm absolutely amazed there are people out there that look up to him as a professional poker player.

Jesus christ. Bullying?? Dudes being dudes and busting each other's balls.
People are confusing bullying nowadays. Everyone is so sensitive.
+1 for Antonio being witty.

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07-23-2015 , 03:17 PM

#299

Agorophob

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Originally Posted by Whose2know

Jesus christ. Bullying?? Dudes being dudes and busting each other's balls.
People are confusing bullying nowadays. Everyone is so sensitive.
+1 for Antonio being witty.

That is about as witty as homophobic slurs or "your mom" jokes.

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07-23-2015 , 03:19 PM

#300

hulkontilt

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Originally Posted by numberonedonk

This guy a douche?

No way......

At the risk of sounding like a fanboy. Using the pics of him with the chips in his fingers isn't fair. I'd bet the photographer asked him to do it, if he refuses he's now called a primadonna.

Though wearing a visor upside down is NEVER ok and completely douchey.

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