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Originally Posted by golfbum983
...my negative feelings come because for a long time I felt lee was there for us backing the players but once ps was sold he just sold out and didn’t back us anyone , just did whatever they asked of him even if it was unethical or against his morals (maybe it wasn’t as he never seemed to sound sympathetic while doing all this bs damage control)
I think that a lot of what we've been discussing up until now has been around having different perspective on things.
However, I think that the quoted part above is just completely false: I worked alongside Lee for some time after PokerStars became a publicly listed company, and I
know that he was a strong advocate for the interests of players - because I saw it.
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Originally Posted by delfins
Would you not think Lee was more like PokerStars Pro player who "sell" his face and community trust in him to company and intentionally long-term associate himself with stars decisions past amaya by staying with company (when he goes to interviews/defend stars decisions publicly on social media or other place over years) lot more then being any anonymous support team member hidden behind emails?
I thought I was making a very simple point:
-Lee Jones should be held accountable for the decisions that he makes.
-PokerStars should be held accountable for the decisions that PokerStars makes.
Of course, a decision to work for a corporation is in itself a decision. I've worked for various employers over the years where I've disagreed with various decisions. Sometimes, I've also disagreed with the processes to make those decisions. I doubt that there is any employee, of any company, anywhere in the world, who agrees with every decision that their employer makes.
But the thing about loyalty to working as part of a team is to sometimes keep those criticisms in house. I have disagreements with various family members all the time - but let me give you the hot tip that my loyalty to them outranks my loyalty to you. As a result, I'll happily and enthusiastically defend the decisions that my family makes.
It's entirely reasonable for any employee to show similar loyalty faced with similar issues. It's entirely unreasonable for people to question Lee's integrity to doing the right thing when people in this thread:
a) appear to be ignorant of how the decisions were made, and who made them
b) appear to be ignorant of Lee's strong personal advocacy of the interests of players
c) have no skin in the game for their obvious ignorance
d) have no ability to differentiate between "I'm unhappy" and "Lee is a bad person"
Questioning the integrity of Lee Jones for decisions that PokerStars makes is like blaming Ronald McDonald for the taste of a Big Mac. It's completely ****ing dumb, it's completely ****ing unfair, and you should be ashamed of yourselves for doing it.