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Old 03-16-2019, 10:01 AM   #51
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Re: Lee Jones apparently leaves PokerStars after so many years, no announcement made

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Asserting a company spokesman is a bad person because he spokesman'd for the company is a little odd though.
I'm sure that Ari Fleischer, Sean Spicer and Sarah Sanders are in full agreement with you on that point.
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Old 03-16-2019, 10:13 AM   #52
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Re: Lee Jones apparently leaves PokerStars after so many years, no announcement made

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Old 03-16-2019, 10:55 AM   #53
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Re: Lee Jones apparently leaves PokerStars after so many years, no announcement made

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I'd agree. But, there is quite often a mob mentality in some threads here. Not all posters but some.

Partially due to groupthink, partially because some find comfort in being part of a group (any group). you are correct , they are each entitled to their opinion .

I simply wanted to present an alternative opinion before the pitchfork crowd showed up from the village.

Asserting a company spokesman is a bad person because he spokesman'd for the company is a little odd though.

Was the graphics programmer at Stars a bad person? What about head of accounting? What about the guy in IT you called when your PC wasnt working? all bad people?
You're not the only one arguing on behalf of Lee Jones. Several other people made the same/similar arguments. There is no pitchfork mob thing going on in this thread, and nobody is required to agree with your point of view regarding his behavior as a Stars rep. That's all I was trying to point out.
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Old 03-16-2019, 12:27 PM   #54
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Re: Lee Jones apparently leaves PokerStars after so many years, no announcement made

Good chance his stock options/shares had a vesting period after the Amaya acquisition.
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Old 03-16-2019, 12:36 PM   #55
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Re: Lee Jones apparently leaves PokerStars after so many years, no announcement made

I worked with Lee on a few projects in the company including the Discord freerolls. I found him very enthusiastic and passionate about poker and the Discord community.

That post about the rake display is a poor look for him for sure, without a doubt. Pure guess without speaking to him about it but I'd imagine some of the things he had to speak for didn't sit well with him. Agree with PTLou that the mob can sometimes be unfair. I think when you reach a certain age and have a career/family/expenses it's very difficult to "take a stand" and punt the entire thing over business ethics or a moral code.

Several of the old school PokerStars people, the ones who helped build the company, have told me that Lee was instrumental in building the original culture of the company. I call it that old school aw shucks cowboy kindness with Lee and Tom McEvoy and faces in the client. I saw traces of this while working with him firsthand.

I'll always be thankful to him for this and I think we all should be. I think he made some questionable choices but you can have empathy for this situation. I actually see some parallels between Lee, Daniel N, and Anakin Skywalker. Sometimes you are a good man and you make a series of murky decisions and then eventually you can't walk back from the path. And then Palpatine might discard you for your son anyways.
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Old 03-16-2019, 11:54 PM   #56
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Re: Lee Jones apparently leaves PokerStars after so many years, no announcement made

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I'd agree. But, there is quite often a mob mentality in some threads here. Not all posters but some.

Partially due to groupthink, partially because some find comfort in being part of a group (any group). you are correct , they are each entitled to their opinion .

I simply wanted to present an alternative opinion before the pitchfork crowd showed up from the village.

Asserting a company spokesman is a bad person because he spokesman'd for the company is a little odd though.

Was the graphics programmer at Stars a bad person? What about head of accounting? What about the guy in IT you called when your PC wasnt working? all bad people?
Somebody tell PTLou that SageDonkey took over his account.
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Re: Lee Jones apparently leaves PokerStars after so many years, no announcement made

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Somebody tell PTLou that SageDonkey took over his account.
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Old Yesterday, 05:52 AM   #58
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Re: Lee Jones apparently leaves PokerStars after so many years, no announcement made

ouch.

just changed my mind.

Lee Jones is the devil.

carry on.
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