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Old 02-02-2009, 10:57 AM   #151
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:14 AM   #152
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I can't believe how many people are jumping on the 'we hate leatherass' bandwagon, god there are some c*nts in this world
I can only speak for myself, but it's not hate so much as saying from one grinder to another, relax and smell the roses once in a ****ing while.
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:17 AM   #153
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“To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.”

“People only see what they are prepared to see.”

- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Leatherass, I hope you had a good laugh at how badly the quote thing backfired. It's funny as is life.
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:32 AM   #154
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

I've read all of Leatherass's blog entries and the central theme is "I run bad, boohoohoo woe is me". He has always been like this.. when I first started reading his blog entries I thought how could someone make so much money yet still not be able to emotionally overcome the swings of poker? If you make poker your life then you should be intelligent enough to understand how poker works and get over it.

He has no proof if he has run bad (if you can even prove such a thing, which you can't); whenever he says he is running bad its just a gut feel thing, and of course whenever someone makes a post saying the sites are rigged cuz this or that happened which is essentially what LA is saying, everyone rightfully so jumps on their stupid post and calls them a noob, idiot, etc.

I'm not sure what LA is trying to accomplish with all his "run bad" posts. Does he secretly think Stars is rigged against him? If he truly does not feel it is rigged in any way then he is a dumbass for constantly whining and getting upset about it. You would think someone with his self-professed intelligence would realize getting upset about it does him absolutely no good and is self-detrimental.
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:39 AM   #155
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

i didn't think leatherass was one of those millions of poker playes who think they run bad
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:45 AM   #156
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But srsly, if we're gonna quote Emerson:

"Win as if you were used to it, lose as if you enjoyed it for a change."

"Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted."

"For every minute you remain angry, you give up sixty seconds of peace of mind."

"To laugh often and much:
To win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children,
to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends;
to appreciate beauty, to find the best in others,
to leave the world a bit better whether by a healthy child,
a garden patch, or a redeemed social condition;
to know even one life has breathed easier because you lived.
This is to have succeeded."
great set of quotes
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Old 02-02-2009, 01:15 PM   #157
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WTF. Is he serious? Didn't he make a million in the last 10 months. And he says he is the unluckiest poker player. He made more than 99% of the population last year.

Is this a level. I think this is a level. I get it, he's trying to be funny.

More than 99,99% of the population probably.
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Old 02-02-2009, 01:30 PM   #158
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

ahaha CC owned LA

it is utterly astounding to me how guys like LA don't understand why the rest of the poker community don't want to line up to suck their [censored] like they do with guys like cts, etc. and the reason is very simple, and skier and moonshine outlined it very simply - he is a PURE leech. he is pretty much outstanding at everything peripheral to poker that is not the pure playing of it - staying off tilt, game selecting across multiple sites, playing an insane amount of tables, etc. good for him. make all the money you want. just don't piss and moan about running bad or why everyone on 2p2 hates you.
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Old 02-02-2009, 01:31 PM   #159
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I changed my view after reading this blog entry. The instructors at CR should talk to each other.

http://blogs.cardrunners.com/interne...ore-1232943829
wow. at first it's actually not bad. despite being ridiculously long-winded (jesus christ, it's honestly not that complicated of a concept, it could have been explained in 5 lines), dogishead makes a fair point, and it's something people don't think about often enough

but when it devolves into "so don't tell me you run bad, you don't even know what it is to run bad, i run ****ing bad" in the final paragraphs, i mean give me a ****' break
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:24 PM   #160
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

lol at professional poker players accusing another professional poker player for "being a leech"...

the difference between "the baller fraction" and LA is their mental age

LA just realised that in the end the money comes from the fish and made his own conclusions from that....

FWIW I am a member of both stoxpoker and leggopoker and LA is certainly world class in his attitude and professionalism towards this game. I know his last blogs are whiney and irrational but its probably just his way of dealing with frustration. And its certainly a better option than tilting in the games....
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:28 PM   #161
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clearly,
everyone who makes 1 million but has the capacity to make 3 million is rly unfortunate
its like winning the national lottery then complaining about losing the rest of ur lottery tickets
get with the program meister
occasionally there comes along a post that tilts me hard, but then makes me laugh when i think about the poster taking their own comment seriously.

well done sir
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Old 02-02-2009, 02:33 PM   #162
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lol at professional poker players accusing another professional poker player for "being a leech"...

the difference between "the baller fraction" and LA is their mental age

LA just realised that in the end the money comes from the fish and made his own conclusions from that....
Jesus christ man did you just not read skier or moonshine's posts, or were you too dumb to understand the meaning of them?
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Old 02-02-2009, 03:50 PM   #163
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lol at professional poker players accusing another professional poker player for "being a leech"...

the difference between "the baller fraction" and LA is their mental age

LA just realised that in the end the money comes from the fish and made his own conclusions from that....
except that he didn't. you notice he thinks that his winrate will go up and he will game select less strictly, right?

and the reason why LA is a leech - and yes, i recognize the absurdity - is because he never starts games and frequently breaks them. if everyone acted the way LA does, there'd be half as many games at 5/10+, which means less money for damn near everyone.
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Old 02-02-2009, 04:01 PM   #164
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

LOL leatherass is such a clown.

I love all the poker talent that comes in this thread and bashes LA, and a bunch of micro grinders who thinks he makes poker videos that actually help them come in here and defend them-- it's v funny.

Also, him coming in this thread and typing out RWE quotes is HILARIOUS and classic LA
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Old 02-02-2009, 04:34 PM   #165
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FWIW I am a member of both stoxpoker and leggopoker and LA is certainly world class in his attitude and professionalism towards this game. I know his last blogs are whiney and irrational but its probably just his way of dealing with frustration. And its certainly a better option than tilting in the games....
It's a big myth that LA never tilts. Also, some people don't tilt bad AND don't whine all over the internet about running below EV.
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Old 02-02-2009, 04:35 PM   #166
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

If you're playing 12 $1000 or $2000 games, it would be pretty darn silly to sit at a short table with other pros to "keep the game going". You want him to play short handed against other good players who are only playing 3-4 tables? That's just silly and definitely negative EV.

I don't know any professional grinder at any limit who doesn't look around at the table they're playing in, evaluate if it's worth it to be there, and leave if it isn't.
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Old 02-02-2009, 04:37 PM   #167
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If you're playing 12 $1000 or $2000 games, it would be pretty darn silly to sit at a short table with other pros to "keep the game going". You want him to play short handed against other good players who are only playing 3-4 tables? That's just silly and definitely negative EV.

I don't know any professional grinder at any limit who doesn't look around at the table they're playing in, evaluate if it's worth it to be there, and leave if it isn't.
so who do u expect to keep the games going so the fish have a game to sit in....everyone besides leatherass?
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Old 02-02-2009, 04:47 PM   #168
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

let me put this into a different perspective to elaborate on what triumpth said. the higher you go the less tables there are. often at 25/50 (and higher especially) there aren't many games. Occasionally a fish sits and all of a sudden the table and waitlist explode with people who never play these stakes. Now I may play with a lot of these regulars and i obviously think i have an edge on some of them. if they win the fish's money then it stays in the 25/50 economy, but if one of these bumhunters (be it someone taking a shot, or someone who only plays in good games) wins the money it's likely i'll never see it again and it's removed from the 25/50 economy completely. Not to mention that one of these bumhunters might get a seat or hop on the waitlist before me and cause me to miss the gravy in my regular games. Imagine, if there were no 25/50 games going, then these fish might sit at 5/10 or 10/20 and there's less money for everyone. i mean there's nothing wrong with it at all. of course I try to sit in the best games possible, but i don't think there's anything wrong with hating the people that leach off your "economy" AND then act like the best regular at that limit.

edit: obv im a leech on the economy too, but i help keep it runnig

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Old 02-02-2009, 04:47 PM   #169
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

This thread had zero ownage until the quotes were dropped.
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Old 02-02-2009, 04:48 PM   #170
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so who do u expect to keep the games going so the fish have a game to sit in....everyone besides leatherass?
You have a good point, but I also think that if you're playing 12 tables at those limits, and 5 of them are 3 handed against other good regs, then you might have a problem.
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Old 02-02-2009, 05:08 PM   #171
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I don't know any professional grinder at any limit who doesn't look around at the table they're playing in, evaluate if it's worth it to be there, and leave if it isn't.
Then you don't know UMD Tennis.
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Old 02-02-2009, 05:35 PM   #172
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It's a big myth that LA never tilts.

My thought on this was more like, "some of that chat sure looks tilty to me."

I really believe that no matter how much you think your game is unaffected, if you are dropping profanities about the beats you are taking or how bad you are running then that is pretty much the definition of tilting.
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Old 02-02-2009, 05:36 PM   #173
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

Want to add my favorite quote:


"Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes."

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Old 02-02-2009, 05:58 PM   #174
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LOL leatherass is such a clown.

I love all the poker talent that comes in this thread and bashes LA, and a bunch of micro grinders who thinks he makes poker videos that actually help them come in here and defend them-- it's v funny.

Also, him coming in this thread and typing out RWE quotes is HILARIOUS and classic LA
Lol @ the poker talent/microgrinder logic. This thread isn't very much about poker logic.

I don't know how much of a leech he is. If the people with "poker talent" have such knowledge, the I can understand the hate. From the blog post only I don't see why people would hate him.
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Old 02-02-2009, 06:00 PM   #175
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

Haven't read the whole thread but leatherass getting stressed over running bad while putting up massive hands/profits is standard IMO.

Whatever, maybe he uses it for motivation? He is a machine.
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