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Old 01-31-2009, 08:49 AM   #51
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

OP... your post was a big mistake. or not... who knows.
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:18 AM   #52
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

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Can someone please explain the term "bumhunter" for me? Thanks.
When you open up a new table and are immediately joined by 5 regs, you'll know what a bumhunt is. Not that this has ever happened to me. I swear.
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:37 AM   #53
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You're definitely the kid that got the **** beat out of him in middle school.
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:41 AM   #54
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How is this not a good thing?

It basically means he's good at table selecting. I don't get how people call it "bum hunting" and mean it in a derogatory manner. Table selecting well is important. It can increase your winrate a good bit. I try to sit at the best tables and avoid the worst tables at the games that I play. So, yea.
People don't like smart people, I guess. It always cracks me up when a table is nothing but regs and they sit there trying to outplay each other and just donate rake.

Although at the higher stakes, I suppose there is something to be said for trying to keep a table with a fish from breaking. But if everyone else is gonna swap chips around and pay rake when you and the fish sit out, well, you'd also be silly not to take advantage of that. If everyone sat out, it wouldn't work... but everyone doesn't... so you might as well do it.
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Old 01-31-2009, 11:01 AM   #55
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

ive played leatherass9 a few times. He is such a super aggro spew off with A10 type player when ive played him. I don't know how he makes money.
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Old 01-31-2009, 11:26 AM   #56
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

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People don't like smart people, I guess. It always cracks me up when a table is nothing but regs and they sit there trying to outplay each other and just donate rake.

Although at the higher stakes, I suppose there is something to be said for trying to keep a table with a fish from breaking. But if everyone else is gonna swap chips around and pay rake when you and the fish sit out, well, you'd also be silly not to take advantage of that. If everyone sat out, it wouldn't work... but everyone doesn't... so you might as well do it.
well it's not passing chips around for everyone. someone is gonna come out ahead. obviously keeping the game running is something you need to do for the fish and it should be understandable why those that do keep it running when people like LA don't hold up their end of the bargain and leach off the others that keep the game running. He just takes. No giving. Everyone else is doing some combination of giving and taking. Especially those that are likely -EV in the game without the fish (whether they realize it or not). Sure it might be smart to sit out, but if everyone does it, it no longer is. I don't see why it's so hard to see why people who are holding up leatherass' portion of the deal hate him. Especially when he parades around 2+2 talking like he's god's gift to poker or complaining about not winning 5ptbb.
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Old 01-31-2009, 11:36 AM   #57
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People don't like smart people, I guess. It always cracks me up when a table is nothing but regs and they sit there trying to outplay each other and just donate rake.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

u make it sound like when there are 6 regs sitting at a tbl each one has a 0 EV expectation minus rake. when there is a lack of fish around there are some regs that are a great substitute.
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:02 PM   #58
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Um, that was his last 30K hands. BFD if that's what he's complaining about.

In other spots he mentions running +4bb for 300K hands or whatever, and what he doesn't seem to realize is that he IS running good during those stretches.

To his credit, he acknowledges the fact that he might not realize when he is running good.
his long term winrate is like 2ptbb/100 or something and when he runs at 4ptbb/1000 for 300k hands he thinks he is not running good.

lol
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:06 PM   #59
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

I don't really understand this. It seems crazy to think a player as experienced as him would complain about running 40k below EV at 25/50 over 30k hands. That's a whopping 8 buyins. You can drop 8 buyins of EV so insanely fast.

I have alot of respect for him for staying true to himself, but this is just silly.
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:20 PM   #60
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and flopped a set like 1 in 25 only to watch the guy check fold…lol.
I wonder why....
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:32 PM   #61
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

Can't be good for Stox business, I mean ... with so many great pro's around making vids, their main attraction is this.
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:22 PM   #62
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

I am seriously considering cancelling my Stoxpoker subscription - Leatherass always came across like a gentleman in his videos, so calm, so thoughtful of his fellow opinions, and now this profanity.

Disappointed.
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:47 PM   #63
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I don't really understand this. It seems crazy to think a player as experienced as him would complain about running 40k below EV at 25/50 over 30k hands. That's a whopping 8 buyins. You can drop 8 buyins of EV so insanely fast.

I have alot of respect for him for staying true to himself, but this is just silly.
it's not 25/50
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:17 PM   #64
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

The argument that he made $X amount of money last year does not allow him to get angry about running bad has no logic and is ******ed. If you work your ass off to play X amount of hands and a standard run of cards would equal Y amount of money, I don't see why you can't be angry about earning half of that??? Who cares if he won 1 million, maybe with a few heaters he would of won 2 million? Seems legit to ***** if he wants.

I can sympathize.
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:18 PM   #65
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

no one wants to hear this crap whiny *****.
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:39 PM   #66
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

he prob gets raped in non-SD pots and bullied by every decent reg when a scare card vs his range comes.
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:49 PM   #67
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

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he prob gets raped in non-SD pots and bullied by every decent reg when a scare card vs his range comes.

This thread needs more baseless and idle conjecture. I mean really dude? He's gettin pushed around cause he doesn't know how to respond to scare cards?

It seems many elite players develop Ego problems as a result of their parents and every other source of meaningful feedback becoming mere gaping jaws and confused glares when that kind of money rolls in.

HE believes that a tough player at his level should be making more than 6/100.

That is not realistic.

I really cannot believe people are passing judgement on specific and very insular parts of his game when they have likely not played with him enough to note these tendencies.

srsly just shut up and watch boxxy make an ass of herself some more. A v hot ass but idiot nonetheless
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:59 PM   #68
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

PLZ PLZ PLZ let this be fgators 2.0
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Old 01-31-2009, 03:02 PM   #69
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VicTree seems like a real doosh.
WRONG, vic is awesome and furthermore he has NO FEAR
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Old 01-31-2009, 03:17 PM   #70
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

what a puss

february is the official slowroll leatherass month
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Old 01-31-2009, 03:40 PM   #71
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

We all have our mental foes. I don't think he's that big of a d-bag. It's just the fact that he thinks he deserves things in poker which is obv not the case no matter how sick of a grinder you are.
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Old 01-31-2009, 04:05 PM   #72
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"I swear to God I am playing my A game right now and have during nearly every bad stretch I have had over the past 10 months."
now go to hell
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Old 01-31-2009, 04:14 PM   #73
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

Lol at everyone wanting to see him go broke. He has played more hands and won more money than most anyone that hates on him. Jealousy IMO. Considering he won a million bucks last year you can't really call him a "rakeback pro" lol.

I do love to see some quality slowrolling going on though. I don't get why that is considered such a bad move. It is very funny I think.
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Old 01-31-2009, 04:27 PM   #74
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

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Lol at everyone wanting to see him go broke. He has played more hands and won more money than most anyone that hates on him. Jealousy IMO. Considering he won a million bucks last year you can't really call him a "rakeback pro" lol.

I do love to see some quality slowrolling going on though. I don't get why that is considered such a bad move. It is very funny I think.
you think guys like Derrick and Skier are jealous of LA? Really? Go read skiier's post. They're pissed because he's a leach on the games and then has the audacity to go around thinking he deserves something

i know that great feeling of playing a reg hu for like 30 minutes trying to start a game only to have leatherass insta-sit in the jesus seat the nanosecond a fish sits down
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Old 01-31-2009, 04:45 PM   #75
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

what Moonshine said.

I really don't understand how he insta sits down when a fish sits down though, like is he constantly looking at the tables to see when someone less than 100bb sits in and insta joins? Or is there some sort of table selector software that does it for him?

Also, those of you hating on victree are wrong.
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