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Old 01-30-2009, 11:31 PM   #1
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leatherass runs bad :(

grinded out a million bucks last year... but dammit! he's simply the most unluckiest player out there!

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Old 01-30-2009, 11:34 PM   #2
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

link didn't work for me

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Old 01-30-2009, 11:35 PM   #3
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

lol I just read a good followup post to this thread in the MSNL 2009 Stars Regular thread...

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Originally Posted by Smartalecc3

Boy was tonight was a legitimate fun night at the tables! I GOT LA TO TALK TO ME

So I timebanked on the river all the way in this hand which set him off

Stars Game #24418711758: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2009/01/30 1:26:33 ET
Table 'Carol' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: VicTree ($1030 in chips)
Seat 2: adam001 ($1745 in chips)
Seat 3: Leatherass9 ($2307 in chips)
Seat 4: velsin ($1524.95 in chips)
Seat 6: Jenn415 ($2216 in chips)
adam001: posts small blind $5
Leatherass9: posts big blind $10
Chris_55555: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to VicTree [9c Tc]
velsin: folds
Jenn415: folds
VicTree: raises $20 to $30
adam001: folds
Leatherass9: raises $80 to $110
VicTree: calls $80
*** FLOP *** [9d 2c 5d]
Leatherass9: bets $155
VicTree: calls $155
*** TURN *** [9d 2c 5d] [5s]
Leatherass9: bets $225
VicTree: calls $225
*** RIVER *** [9d 2c 5d 5s] [9h]
Leatherass9: bets $1817 and is all-in
VicTree said, "unreal"
VicTree said, "gotta go with my eead"
VicTree: calls $540 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1277) returned to Leatherass9
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Leatherass9: shows [Qh Qd] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
VicTree: shows [9c Tc] (a full house, Nines full of Fives)
VicTree collected $2063 from pot

So then over the next few hands it goes
Leatherass9 said, "nh ******"
velsin said, "nh"
velsin said, "nice call"

VicTree said, "had to figure out what hes pushing me around with"
velsin said, "quads? the way this place plays... i wouldn't be surprised"
VicTree said, "I know"
VicTree said, "was tempted to make the big fold"

VicTree said, "Ive done it"
VicTree said, "hellmuth always talks about the big fold"
VicTree said, "i think that was a great spot for it"
VicTree said, "dunno"
Leatherass9 said, "*** ur self idiot"

So a cpl hours later LA plays this hand. Cliff notes: Donks the flop with TOP set deep vs donk and c/c two streets.
Dealt to VicTree [5h 5d]
str3ghtup: raises $10 to $20
Gith: folds
VicTree: calls $20
adam001: folds
Leatherass9: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [7h 6c Th]
Leatherass9: bets $50
str3ghtup: calls $50
VicTree: folds
*** TURN *** [7h 6c Th] [9d]
Leatherass9: checks
str3ghtup: bets $75
Leatherass9: calls $75
*** RIVER *** [7h 6c Th 9d] [Qd]
Leatherass9: checks
str3ghtup: bets $100
Leatherass9: calls $100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
str3ghtup: shows [4s 3h] (high card Queen)
Leatherass9: shows [Tc Ts] (three of a kind, Tens)
Leatherass9 collected $512 from pot

I chime in next hand
VicTree said, "leatherass always has it no need to bluff"
Leatherass9 said, "vic tree will always suck **** at poker"

Next hand
VicTree said, "str3tup wanna hear something gross"
str3ghtup said, "what's up?"
VicTree said, "when leatherass plays poker for a long time, he brings a bottle to the table with him to piss in"
str3ghtup said, "LOL"
str3ghtup said, "how do you know"
VicTree said, "how fked up is that"
VicTree said, "he said it himself"
VicTree said, "on a message board"
Leatherass9 said, "u ever going to get that ugly *** baby off your avatar?"


What a good night

...............................................

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Old 01-30-2009, 11:46 PM   #4
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

for the support of leatherass:

@ least you're smart and didn't move up to nosebleeds. if you had moved up to nosebleeds.... you would have ran bad and lost much, much, much more $$$..... i salute your discipline...... and best of luck to you..

i just expected this type of blog more of a micro-ish player who really hasn't made much money from poker.

it really comes across pretty bad coming from you. esp. since you own the training site and stuff. again, best of luck in your future endeavors.
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Old 01-30-2009, 11:57 PM   #5
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

I know nothing about leatherass, but isn't the entire point of the 24 tabling grinder style to have 50k breakeven stretches and live off rakeback?
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:00 AM   #6
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

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I know nothing about leatherass, but isn't the entire point of the 24 tabling grinder style to have 50k breakeven stretches and live off rakeback?
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:00 AM   #7
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

idk care bout this
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:00 AM   #8
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it really comes across pretty bad coming from you. esp. since you own the training site and stuff. again, best of luck in your future endeavors.
Those lucky few who HAVE gone through this (>6 months of constant butt****ing) know exactly how he feels.

For those who HAVEN'T gone through it, his post probably sounds incredibly whiny. But you can't possibly understand until you go through it. Seriously. Most of you never will. Be very, very happy.
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:01 AM   #9
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idk care bout this
I don't know care bout this

...makes sense
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:06 AM   #10
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

he's such a tool.

work on your game Beatrice

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Old 01-31-2009, 12:23 AM   #11
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Those lucky few who HAVE gone through this (>6 months of constant butt****ing) know exactly how he feels.

For those who HAVEN'T gone through it, his post probably sounds incredibly whiny. But you can't possibly understand until you go through it. Seriously. Most of you never will. Be very, very happy.
Meh, sounds like my entire poker career.
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:25 AM   #12
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

WTF. Is he serious? Didn't he make a million in the last 10 months. And he says he is the unluckiest poker player. He made more than 99% of the population last year.

Is this a level. I think this is a level. I get it, he's trying to be funny.
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:31 AM   #13
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Meh, sounds like my entire poker career.
Graph?
Eh, hold on, I read his entry more closely and some comments/other blog posts re variance.

It looks like LA thinks 4ptBB/100 while 12-tabling mid-high stakes is running average?!? And that he "deserves" to run 8ptBB fairly often, to "make up" for his downswings?

If that's the case, I have zero sympathy, and sincerely hope for his sake that he never REALLY runs bad.
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:53 AM   #14
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

Seriously, wtf is this??

He can't be for real can he??

I understand how warped running bad can make you feel, but he was bragging not too long ago, or at least posting graphs that made it feel like a brag.

LA, no disrespect. Take a break for AWHILE. A month maybe, get the fire back, and then let that **** be water under the bridge. You are a winning player at HS poker while 12 tabling. That's more than just about anyone can say. GL sir.

Your not running bad, your internal expectation meter is broken.
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:54 AM   #15
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Basically my last year has either been a stretch of poker where I made like 4bb/100 over 250k hands, or I am getting butt ****ed for a 60k hand stretch. It’s either one or the other.
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:55 AM   #16
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

He's running normal. In his mind he's excited to get butt ****ed but in reality it's not happening and it's the cause of frustration. just my 2 cents
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:58 AM   #17
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

Yeah... I'll admit that I've been the first to defend LA when the ******ed arguments come out of "ZOMG HE'S A BUMHUNTER," but complaining about running bad while making 1M/year isn't going to get much sympathy.

From reading his blog it sounds pretty damn standard. I'm pretty damn good at HU, but just got through about 100k hands of breakeven. It happens. I know he knows this... I know you all know this, but you WILL run worse than you ever thought possible, it's a guarantee.

EDIT: But at the end of the day it's his blog to vent in.
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:06 AM   #18
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

Can someone please explain the term "bumhunter" for me? Thanks.
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:08 AM   #19
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Eh, hold on, I read his entry more closely and some comments/other blog posts re variance.

It looks like LA thinks 4ptBB/100 while 12-tabling mid-high stakes is running average?!? And that he "deserves" to run 8ptBB fairly often, to "make up" for his downswings?

If that's the case, I have zero sympathy, and sincerely hope for his sake that he never REALLY runs bad.
"losing over 4bb/100"
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:19 AM   #20
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this is your best thread ever Troy, wtg.

IDK which makes me happier- LA struggling, me doing well, or me doing well while LA struggles.




PS- HI LEATHERASS- just wanted to let you know I'm up over 80 this month in 50-something hands.
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:37 AM   #21
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

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lol I just read a good followup post to this thread in the MSNL 2009 Stars Regular thread...

...................

Originally Posted by Smartalecc3

Boy was tonight was a legitimate fun night at the tables! I GOT LA TO TALK TO ME

So I timebanked on the river all the way in this hand which set him off

Stars Game #24418711758: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2009/01/30 1:26:33 ET
Table 'Carol' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: VicTree ($1030 in chips)
Seat 2: adam001 ($1745 in chips)
Seat 3: Leatherass9 ($2307 in chips)
Seat 4: velsin ($1524.95 in chips)
Seat 6: Jenn415 ($2216 in chips)
adam001: posts small blind $5
Leatherass9: posts big blind $10
Chris_55555: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to VicTree [9c Tc]
velsin: folds
Jenn415: folds
VicTree: raises $20 to $30
adam001: folds
Leatherass9: raises $80 to $110
VicTree: calls $80
*** FLOP *** [9d 2c 5d]
Leatherass9: bets $155
VicTree: calls $155
*** TURN *** [9d 2c 5d] [5s]
Leatherass9: bets $225
VicTree: calls $225
*** RIVER *** [9d 2c 5d 5s] [9h]
Leatherass9: bets $1817 and is all-in
VicTree said, "unreal"
VicTree said, "gotta go with my eead"
VicTree: calls $540 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1277) returned to Leatherass9
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Leatherass9: shows [Qh Qd] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
VicTree: shows [9c Tc] (a full house, Nines full of Fives)
VicTree collected $2063 from pot

So then over the next few hands it goes
Leatherass9 said, "nh ******"
velsin said, "nh"
velsin said, "nice call"

VicTree said, "had to figure out what hes pushing me around with"
velsin said, "quads? the way this place plays... i wouldn't be surprised"
VicTree said, "I know"
VicTree said, "was tempted to make the big fold"

VicTree said, "Ive done it"
VicTree said, "hellmuth always talks about the big fold"
VicTree said, "i think that was a great spot for it"
VicTree said, "dunno"
Leatherass9 said, "*** ur self idiot"

So a cpl hours later LA plays this hand. Cliff notes: Donks the flop with TOP set deep vs donk and c/c two streets.
Dealt to VicTree [5h 5d]
str3ghtup: raises $10 to $20
Gith: folds
VicTree: calls $20
adam001: folds
Leatherass9: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [7h 6c Th]
Leatherass9: bets $50
str3ghtup: calls $50
VicTree: folds
*** TURN *** [7h 6c Th] [9d]
Leatherass9: checks
str3ghtup: bets $75
Leatherass9: calls $75
*** RIVER *** [7h 6c Th 9d] [Qd]
Leatherass9: checks
str3ghtup: bets $100
Leatherass9: calls $100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
str3ghtup: shows [4s 3h] (high card Queen)
Leatherass9: shows [Tc Ts] (three of a kind, Tens)
Leatherass9 collected $512 from pot

I chime in next hand
VicTree said, "leatherass always has it no need to bluff"
Leatherass9 said, "vic tree will always suck **** at poker"

Next hand
VicTree said, "str3tup wanna hear something gross"
str3ghtup said, "what's up?"
VicTree said, "when leatherass plays poker for a long time, he brings a bottle to the table with him to piss in"
str3ghtup said, "LOL"
str3ghtup said, "how do you know"
VicTree said, "how fked up is that"
VicTree said, "he said it himself"
VicTree said, "on a message board"
Leatherass9 said, "u ever going to get that ugly *** baby off your avatar?"


What a good night

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I thought only the low stakes guys talk **** after winning a pot off you, kinda immature for a high stakes reg imo and didnt LA make the max with his top set?
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:38 AM   #22
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

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"losing over 4bb/100"
I also read it a -4bb/100 as well and I read it 1-2 hrs ago.
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:39 AM   #23
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this is your best thread ever Troy, wtg.

IDK which makes me happier- LA struggling, me doing well, or me doing well while LA struggles.




PS- HI LEATHERASS- just wanted to let you know I'm up over 80 this month in 50-something hands.
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:47 AM   #24
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Re: leatherass runs bad :(

cliffnotes: Leatherass is pissed off because he made a million dollars last year.

I lost what respect I had for you.
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:01 AM   #25
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cliffnotes: Leatherass is pissed off because he made a million dollars last year.

I lost what respect I had for you.
You're right. This is exactly why he's pissed off.
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