That is why I will do chat rooms and boards like this until I get pissed and then I am like f-it all.

TMZ reporting Paddock had 2 rooms booked in Chicago overlooking Lollapalooza in late July but no-showed.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/10/05/stephe...chicago-vegas/

Combined with his unsuccessful attempts to book rooms overlooking Life is Beautiful festival in Vegas, sounds like Paddock had been planning something like this for a while.

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Edit/MH: See also http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_7cffbo8q/

Are we talking about the same guy?

He worked for the service? Got a (credible) source on that?

people just speak nonsense with zero proof like its fact
then the next moron says it as well because he hasnt spoken in a while
then a rumor/conspiracy starts

the cops should follow up on it, but i bet vegas has many incidents every month of nutty + drunk people walking around the strip yelling crazy stuff

It's a curious detail, but I live in a major city and see several crazy people muttering to themselves or others every day. Drug-addled Vegas probably has more than its share. Crazy person seems much more likely to me than a legitimate attempt to warn potential victims...if that was her objective, she could have gone to the hotel or law enforcement. Not to mention that if she didn't know when he planned on beginning to shoot, she would have been putting herself right in the line of fire herself. And the girl whose account this was says she was first "messing with" one other concert-goer, telling her that she was going to die, then telling the crowd around more broadly that they were all going to die. No specifics, just a general 'you're all gonna die'. That all seems much better aligned with run-of-the-mill crazy than someone with a specific intent to warn of an impending incident. All speculation, of course...I just don't assign it very high value at this point.

IDK, that would be one hell of a coincidence. I don't think she was trying to warn anyone, so much as she was taunting people about it. Seems like she had foreknowledge of what was coming. Def interested in that part of all of this.

Drugs and alcohol can make you say a lot of crazy ****.

"Anthony Curtis, who operates the Las Vegas Advisor, a website that gives readers advice on gambling, events and attractions, said he spoke with Strip contacts familiar with Paddock’s background.

He had six-figure credit lines open with casinos, Curtis cited his sources as saying. Paddock visited Wynn Las Vegas, The Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas and Mandalay Bay, according to those sources.

Paddock attended VIP events, kept to himself and was a heavy drinker, Curtis cited his sources as saying."

https://www.reviewjournal.com/busine...m-to-blend-in/

Can anyone report on the supposed Caesar’s/aria being shot up rigt after mandalay or is that bs?


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"Analyzing Paddock's computer, cellphone and other electronic devices, Investigators have found no obvious ideological motive, no clear connection to extremists or activist groups or outward display of mental illness, The Associated Press reported.

Where other mass killers have left behind a trail of plain-sight clues that help investigators quickly understand what drove them to violence, Paddock had nearly no close friends, social media presence or other clear connections to the broader world."

I mean this, I've heard somebody yelling that we were all going to die and burn in hell for gambling/drinking while watching the Bellagio fountains one night. And I'm not in Vegas all that often and usually stick to inside casinos. I'm assuming crazy stuff gets yelled constantly on the streets of the strip. Confirmation bias and not understanding Bayes Theorem is the confusion here.

“Yes, I was familiar with him,” the man, speaking on condition of anonymity, told the Guardian at his Brisbane home on Wednesday. “He was extremely intelligent, methodical, conservative – guarded – and strategic. A planning, thinking type of guy." But nothing at the time, including their “robust” discussions about US gun laws, rang alarm bells to suggest that he was capable of “such an inhumane, terrible, vicious act”.

The Brisbane man said he met Paddock “on a number of occasions” in the Philippines, where the sisters’ family held reunions. They also met up in in Reno, California, and in Las Vegas, where the man and his then partner stayed in extravagant accommodation courtesy of Paddock via casinos where he was a frequent and prodigious gambler. “We lived fairly palatially for quite some time,” the man said. “That was quite a lovely experience and he was a generous man.”

It was on that first stay in Mesquite that Paddock gestured in passing to his “gun room”. Its presence in the two-bedroom home made an impression on the man – who opposes the US’s lax gun laws – but he “didn’t pursue it” with Paddock.
“His comments were that it’s a substantial hobby that needs to be protected: ‘a gun room’,” the man said."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ler-gun-rights

Certainly possible that it's just a coincidence. Time will tell I guess. Bolded: If you say so.

This jives with what his brother says:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPZFN6VFFow

Would love for people to take a look at this and give their opinion of whatever the hell is going on in his brother's mind. I've watched most of this trainwreck and it's stunning that his brother doesn't seem to disavow his behavior, keeps saying he was a genius, not saying anything bad about him or what he did. Keeps talking about what a nice guy he was. Dude stopped himself from saying 'Steve was an army...' Keeps saying Steve was normal... saying 'something horrible happened to my brother.'

I seriously can't process how this guy is acting.

I'm now wondering if the whole family has a psychopath gene or something... dunno if that's a thing or not. His dad's FBI wanted poster said he was 'diagnosed as a psychopath', and the younger brother has arson convictions. My understanding is that arson is behaviorally linked to psychopathy. Thoughts?

The other mass killers that come to mind like James Holmes or the VA tech nutjob seem very different from this guy, in that both were antisocial and visibly troubled. This guy seems different and much much more dangerous. It is much harder and probably impossible to stop an intelligent, careful psycho with the resources to carry this off and time to plan it. I’m actually surprised this wasn’t worse.

Shock affects people in hella different ways. clearly hasn't quite sunk in with him yet what has happened so close to home...

kind of agree. Reports are coming in that he had booked two rooms in hotels overlooking the Life is Beautiful festival and Lollapalooza. Unreal.

he went from only having a couple of handguns(according to the brother)?
to now having a gun room correct?

Rich is one of the people that think LBJ was part of a plot to kill JFK, so it’s no real surprise that he’s making silly observations like this.

Yup, I'm the idiot.

Howard, I don't castigate you for your belief in the absurd lone nut story, so I'd appreciate it if you'd extend me the same courtesy. Thanks and have a great day, sir.

If it was a homeless person why would they be inside a paid festival? This person was inside the event before getting kicked out by security.

BS, I stayed at Aria on Sunday night.

you don't need to be homeless to be nuts. in fact, most of the people who are nuts aren't homeless!

The current assumption is that he shot himself after the engagement with the security officer (he likely would have seen the other group of officers approaching as well).

Sheriff confirmed last night there was still thousands or rounds of ammo and only a few guns jammed.

My biggest question...and Im surprised the press conference hasnt asked this...would the breach have still taken ~1 hour if he was still shooting?

I understand they were taking all precautions against serious fire power and also didnt know if he had explosives (he did, in his car), but an hour is too long of a response time imo.

If they were dotting i's and crossing t's since the shooting stopped I guess thats understandable, but if it had continued for an hour LVPD would have alot of explaining to do.