I agree with this 100%

Seems like noone here has seen Owning Mahowny: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0285861/...nm_flmg_act_30

You were guessing they might be strays. It seems unlikely that someone who read the article (and comprehended it ) would make that guess. What proposing was his intended target if they were strays? It's likely they have recovered bullets that they examine to determine if they came from one of Paddock's guns. It's possible he fired more than two shots and missed most of them, so he only created two holes.

I hope you're not asking these questions because you're fishing for something you can use for some Building 7-level bs.

I'm just curious as to why casinos would comp someone who is a successful gambler? Doesn't make sense. See my post above this post.

The shooter sent 100k to his wife/gf in Philippines sure, but perhaps that was his last 100k and he was down like a mil prior to that. Hopefully they find the truth, but i doubt the casinos will admit that he was a loser to save face.

We all just want the truth. Speculation sucks.

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Probably just me but I find it surprising that many are dumbfounded that there's no apparent motive for this event.

It wouldn't surprise if this guy was just living his life normally but always thought wouldn't it be a thrill to see how many people I could kill....and just went out and did it.

Not something that would ever personally cross my mind but it wouldn't surprise me if there are seemingly normal people in this world that aren't even particularly disturbed in a traditional sense that think this way.

The world's such a crazy place these days I pretty much just assume there are many which is why I'm not particularly sweating on a motive.

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In the absence of any other motive, gambling losses could certainly be a plausible explanation. Totally agree that long-term losers are the ones most likely to brag when they occasionally hit a jackpot, and to get free suites. He convinced his brother (who is starting to look like a rube) that "his net is better than 100 percent" according to NYTimes. $125 bet per hand x 7 hands per minute x 60 minutes per hour x 6 hours = $315,000 bet per day. At 99.17% return (same NYTimes article) this is an expected loss of $2614 per day, or about $400,000 annual losses if he played 3 days per week. So even an original stake of $2 million or $4 million should be completely gone after doing this for years. And of course he could be running bad and lost quicker... VP return relies heavily on catching royals, so if they were slow to come his annual losses could easily be double or more.

Wouldn't be surprised if the $100k he wired to Philippines was the last of his money, decided to send it to his girl instead of paying off his marker.

And yet, still bone-chilling that he would decide to take so many people out with him.

To be labelled as terrorism, an act has to be either politics or religion related. Which wasn't the case here (as far as we know atm).

Nothing to do with his skin colour.

Timothy McVeigh was labeled a terrorist because he had clear political motivations.

damn that was nuts.

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And that's if he is staying at "99.17% return" 6 hours a day 3 days a week. Man winners at msnl occasionally lose their **** and play their C or D game when they are running bad. With 99.17% return (close to breakeven) you're going to have more swings than someone who is a winner.

That 20+ years of playing video poker is probably what messed up this guy's brain. And if he is quiet and stoic like the media proclaims, then he's basically been bottling up all that tilt for 20+ years of being a professional gambler lol. And this explains the motive and the mass shooting.

So sad to hear this, I stayed at the Mandalay a few years ago. I guess life will never be the same for the people working there.

The timetable says he shot for eleven minutes but the room wasn’t breached for another hour. What was he doing in the room for that hour, and why wasn’t he continuing to shoot? The only thing he seems to have done is shot through his door and injure a policeman. Did he run out of ammo?

Media is racing around looking for motive, but nobody seems really to be asking this and it seems like an odd gap to me.

Have they released when he shot himself?

I think most likely is that he was dead for most of that hour.

However, people can do pretty weird **** after they've done something like. It wouldn't entirely surprise me to find out he took a bath or something. People take showers in peoples houses after they've burgled and shot them...

This thing hit really close to home for me.

I have one friend that was hurt very badly and one that doesn't know if they will make it.

Initially I was mad at who I was with that we left the B&R show to go down because we could see Aldean later, but she wanted to head a bar. Not now!

Thank GOD he didn't get that suite at the Ogden for LIB just the week before as we were in and out of that one a few times throughout the weekend.

As much as he thought this thing out, and it seems he had the cash, or access to it and now knowing that he took shots at the Jet-A tanks right there. I am very surprised that he didn't go down to the gun store and buy a light 50 or something with incendiary rounds in it. At that point hitting those tanks from that point would be child's play.

On another forum someone was saying why not pop an aircraft. The fuel tanks would have been a HUGE MESS had he thought of the 50. I am thinking we may have dodged a few bullets and I hope to never see something like this again. Problem is gun control won't stop the entire problem.

NYC has been worried about this same thing for years, I have stayed at Millennium Broadway which is on top of times square. I have seen snipers searching windows etc for something like this, after I saw the video about them having the program I understand them.

Not enough people talking about the woman telling people they were going to die. Seems important. LOL at it being just a guess, luck, etc.

"Paddock’s actions clearly fit the statutory definition of terrorism in Nevada. That state’s law defines terrorism as “any act that involves the use or attempted use of sabotage, coercion or violence which is intended to cause great bodily harm or death to the general population”. "

"Yet, when asked at a press conference in Las Vegas if the shooting was an act of terrorism, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo replied: “No. Not at this point. We believe it’s a local individual. He resides here locally,” suggesting that all terrorism is foreign in nature. "

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...rist-las-vegas

Curious is Mandalay Bay open now or is the whole casino still closed?

doubt he ran out of ammo those mags in that photo are carefully positioned not used is my guess
the thing is we dont know time of death exactly could have been dead a while
also he had a camera inside right? suicide video? doubt it id say this guy didnt have alot to say
as others have said i bet this huy had 50 years of pent up aggression physo underlining mental problems building up to explode in this massive act of (dont know what word to put here)

^Saying all terrorism is foreign in nature is obv stupid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

In the end it doesn't even matter. Once again, the public will never get to hear what really happened as usual.

I would bet more on prescribed pharmaceuticals messing up the guy's brain than video poker.

AFAIK Everything is open with the exception of the 32nd floor.

I heard that it was D E A D dead though.

I have to go down to that area today for work, if I have time this morning I will swing in and look this morning, but I should be back in Vegas around 6-7pm and will park and walk in.

Probably a bit of everything.

He was running guns, probably drugs and laundering money. Likely as an informant/agent. He had worked as an agent for the Service for 5 years publicly, his wife too.

So he gets caught doing something unwanted by some bad people, I'm guessing cartel, but who knows really? Then they're allowed to off him and make a scene by another 3 letter agency. Local police are forced to play ball.

Where the benefit will be increased funding and implementation for widerspread security services/apparatus and smackdown of a competing int agency who grew some balls with the new administration.

^ wtf lol. The conspiracies are already pretty elaborate.

^^
Shame Privateworld did not post it.