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10-28-2017 , 03:01 PM
What is the fascination with motive? as if anything could explain the "WHY" of this..
It seems People do not understand psychopathy. Or have a baseline idea of what it actually takes to perform acts of this nature.

Some people just want, need or are obsessed with causing devastation. Some have the combined need to be infamous for their acts and some are simply content with their actions alone without the credits. Nothing in this world could compel myself to act out that way, and that is true of 99% of society.

All evidence suggests there was no "motive" other than self indulgence in a grotesque act. I don't see much of a difference from Dahmer, if we could understand truly, then we would be psychotic as well..
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10-28-2017 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GentlemanJack
You watch too much television and lack an education.

Again, I invite you to audit a law school criminal law course (usually in L1 studies) and write down the number of times "motive" is mentioned. I guarantee that you will end up with a blank piece of paper.
Perhaps you should go beyond an introductory class and take an evidence or trial tactics class before you continue your argument.
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10-28-2017 , 07:01 PM
Isn't "he wanted to swiss cheese some hominids" enough for motive? It's good enough in the hood why not when some rich idiotbox loses his marbles. How about he was intoxicated with the chemical of anger for endless days till it was time, in his mind, to share his anger with his fellow man which from his history sound like it was easy for him to be disassociated from.


If you grow up in the ****tier end of the spectrum in this society, with or without money, it's easy to say **** it time to turn someone into meat.
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10-29-2017 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by KidKash
What is the fascination with motive? as if anything could explain the "WHY" of this..
It seems People do not understand psychopathy. Or have a baseline idea of what it actually takes to perform acts of this nature.

Some people just want, need or are obsessed with causing devastation. Some have the combined need to be infamous for their acts and some are simply content with their actions alone without the credits. Nothing in this world could compel myself to act out that way, and that is true of 99% of society.

All evidence suggests there was no "motive" other than self indulgence in a grotesque act. I don't see much of a difference from Dahmer, if we could understand truly, then we would be psychotic as well..
There is a difference between psychopathy and psychosis. This loser was clearly a psychopath.
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10-31-2017 , 05:12 PM
11-04-2017 , 04:46 AM
Clark County sheriff interview article on motive and timeline...

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...k8z?li=BBoPRmx
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01-20-2018 , 06:23 PM
Police report released the other day. He also had child porn on his laptop.

https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/Document..._Footnoted.pdf

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8169491.html
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01-20-2018 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Police report released the other day. He also had child porn on his laptop.

https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/Document..._Footnoted.pdf

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8169491.html
Mandalay Bay has an aquarium. Perhaps the snorkeling equipment was part of an escape of some sort related to the aquarium.
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01-20-2018 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Police report released the other day. He also had child porn on his laptop.
What about the other laptops that were seen in his room coppers, anyone know?
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01-20-2018 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NoQuarter
What about the other laptops that were seen in his room coppers, anyone know?
It's all in the police report.

The guy was a lunatic... still using IE for chrisake.
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01-21-2018 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by KidKash
What is the fascination with motive? as if anything could explain the "WHY" of this..
It seems People do not understand psychopathy. Or have a baseline idea of what it actually takes to perform acts of this nature.

Some people just want, need or are obsessed with causing devastation. Some have the combined need to be infamous for their acts and some are simply content with their actions alone without the credits. Nothing in this world could compel myself to act out that way, and that is true of 99% of society.

All evidence suggests there was no "motive" other than self indulgence in a grotesque act. I don't see much of a difference from Dahmer, if we could understand truly, then we would be psychotic as well..
Except that Dahmer didn't snap one day and kill a bunch of people, there was a long history of him that entirely makes sense when you piece it together.

The fascination is that 60 year old millionaires living the dream don't just "snap" and kill people without reason.

Your arm chair analysis is not at ALL corroborated by Paddock's upbringing, lifestyle or friends.
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01-21-2018 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 7OAD
Except that Dahmer didn't snap one day and kill a bunch of people, there was a long history of him that entirely makes sense when you piece it together.

The fascination is that 60 year old millionaires living the dream don't just "snap" and kill people without reason.

Your arm chair analysis is not at ALL corroborated by Paddock's upbringing, lifestyle or friends.
a 60 year old who deggened away most of his life savings thinking he was a "professional video poker player" and who was on dis-associative anti-anxiety meds might snap though.

dude wasn't a millionaire living a dream. he was a loser who wanted people to think that about him.
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01-21-2018 , 03:56 PM
The amount of time I've spent on conspiracy theories surrounding this is out of line
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01-21-2018 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Police report released the other day. He also had child porn on his laptop.

https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/Document..._Footnoted.pdf

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8169491.html
Correct me if I'm wrong- I could have sworn it was reported that he destroyed the hard drive before he killed himself.
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01-21-2018 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rtd353
Correct me if I'm wrong- I could have sworn it was reported that he destroyed the hard drive before he killed himself.
I wish people would just read the report. There are like four laptops, one of which had a broken hard drive.
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01-21-2018 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rtd353
Correct me if I'm wrong- I could have sworn it was reported that he destroyed the hard drive before he killed himself.
they said there was a laptop in the room without a hard drive
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05-21-2018 , 09:30 PM
Some news on possible motive:

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A jailed man whose gave a statement in November to police and the FBI recalled a man he believed to be Paddock telling him that Federal Emergency Management Agency "camps" set up after Hurricane Katrina in 2005 were "a dry run for law enforcement and military to start kickin' down doors and ... confiscating guns."

"Somebody has to wake up the American public and get them to arm themselves," the man said Paddock told him less than a month before the Oct. 1 shooting that killed 58 people and injured hundreds. "Sometimes sacrifices have to be made."

In a handwritten account, a woman said she overheard a man she later said was Paddock talking with another man at a Las Vegas restaurant just three days before the massacre. She told police that Paddock seemed angry about the 1990s standoffs at Waco, Texas, and Ruby Ridge in Idaho.
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05-21-2018 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
Some news on possible motive:
Seems legit

Doesn't want guns confiscated
Creates the perfect anti gun narrative by committing the deadliest mass shooting in American history

For a guy as smart as he was, this is literal 80 IQ thinking, he was clearly very successful at a variety of things in his life, yet he thinks killing tons of random people is going to make America more pro gun?????? And why would he then shoot up a country concert where the people are extremely pro gun???
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05-21-2018 , 10:48 PM
*modern American history.

Whatever his "motives" were, he was an angry psychopath who was on anti-anxiety meds which there is strong correlation according to anectdotal evidence. His "motives" are just an excuse to commit mass murder then suicide.
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