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10-03-2017 , 05:33 PM

Videopro

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As linked in the OP of the previous thread, this page is getting updated with the latest news.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/la...ay-bay-n806461

Here is a page from KTNV with all their reports.
http://www.ktnv.com/las-vegas-shooting

Associated Press Vegas Page:
https://apnews.com/tag/LasVegasmassshooting

Article about changing security at casinos.
http://in.reuters.com/article/usa-la...-idINKCN1C80AU

Lets keep this thread on the topic of the event, its impact on Vegas and yourself. Mods can update this post with the top news.

Derailing it with gun control or politics not directly associated to the event will be met with a temp ban.

Last edited by Videopro; 10-03-2017 at 05:48 PM.

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10-03-2017 , 05:56 PM

pocket_zeros

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Thanks for the new thread. I think the best chance for new, revealing information will come from the girlfriend, who is expected to land back on US soil in the next few days I believe. She has a lot of explaining to do, esp regarding the $100k he supposedly wired to her family in the Philippines.

Until then:

"In addition, a U.S. government source told Fox News that federal investigators have interviewed an “immediate relative” of Paddock’s girlfriend. This relative said the family found Paddock “unstable,” and he made relatives “uncomfortable.” FBI officials declined to comment on this interview."

FoxNews: Las Vegas shooter described as 'unstable' sent tens of thousands of dollars overseas

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10-03-2017 , 07:12 PM

pocket_zeros

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"The workers behind the counter at the Starbucks inside the Virgin River Casino in Mesquite, Nev., winced whenever Stephen Paddock and his girlfriend, Marilou Danley, lined up for their usual beverages. That’s because Paddock had a nasty habit of berating Danley in public. “It happened a lot,” Esperanza Mendoza, supervisor of the Starbucks, said Tuesday."

LA Times: At his local Starbucks, Las Vegas shooter remembered for berating his girlfriend

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10-03-2017 , 07:21 PM

Morphismus

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One of the last posts in the old thread showed pictures indicating the shooter left a note. Is this real or fake news? Any official confirmation of this?

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10-03-2017 , 07:30 PM

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So far all indications are that it is real. There is one more out there that is a gruesome pic of the shooter, dead on the floor. NSFW or sleeping:

Spoiler:

The carpeting matches. There is a video on youtube of a tourist showing off that exact room during his stay and everything matches.

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10-03-2017 , 07:35 PM

jcorb

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eek

didn't need to click on that.

I did notice they left the house lights on at the concert venue after the performers left the stage. Perhaps in the future folks might be trained to turn them off if there is an incident, so any assailant wouldn't have a better view of potential targets.

I'm sure all the stage hands were hot footing it out of there though.

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10-03-2017 , 07:53 PM

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If he did the shooting or prep for the shooting alone no reason not to release surveillance video of the hall-way outside his room (especially as reported he set up a camera) and parking garage from where, I presume, he carried the guns as it would ease public fear.

Of course, if he had accomplices and/or if this was connected to ISIS as ISIS claims there is also no reason not to release it as public as it could help identify suspects.

In Vegas there is a camera almost everywhere but your toilet.

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10-03-2017 , 08:00 PM

poonis

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The lights were likely not helping him much, but they might have saved many lives from blind trampling and crowd crushing.

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10-03-2017 , 08:07 PM

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There are a lot of IsIS connections in the Philippines, so his money transferring there opens up the connection possibility again that ISIS originally claimed. Something that had seemingly been dismissed

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10-03-2017 , 08:09 PM

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poonis

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I suspect they don't want to put the public at risk. Some GI Joe is going to go ham on this possible terrorist. Or they don't know for sure and just want to question a suspected accomplice. Or they don't to plaster the guy's face in the media, making him feel cornered and more likely to 'go out with a bang' before they can get to him. And also, element of surprise might make it easier to detain him.

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10-03-2017 , 08:10 PM

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pimpxxxdaddy42069

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Originally Posted by Morphismus

One of the last posts in the old thread showed pictures indicating the shooter left a note. Is this real or fake news? Any official confirmation of this?

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/worl...m-Mandalay-Bay

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10-03-2017 , 08:12 PM

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rubixxcube

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Are there confirmed cameras in the hallways of MB? I ask as some casinos/hotels in vegas have hallway cameras while others (mostly caesar's properties where I stay) do not.

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10-03-2017 , 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpxxxdaddy42069

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/worl...m-Mandalay-Bay

Why haven't they realeased the contents of the note? It must reveal connections to others or something that calls for an investigation rather than simply a manifesto.

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10-03-2017 , 08:15 PM

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"According to a law enforcement source, investigators are looking at whether he may have first had his sights on the "Life is Beautiful" festival on Sept. 22 to Sept. 24.

The source, who was briefed on the police investigation, said Paddock had apparently tried to get a room at The Ogden and another hotel in downtown Las Vegas, but apparently the specific suites he requested were booked."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-veg...arlier-attack/

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10-03-2017 , 08:21 PM

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Disappointed the other thread was closed; there was a lot of amicable, reasoned debate from all over the world going on. You can argue that it wasn't in the right sub-forum, but a lot of NVGers (myself included) would never go to said subforums to debate the issue.

Hopefully it's re-opened and can run alongside this thread.

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10-03-2017 , 08:24 PM

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Why haven't they realeased the contents of the note? It must reveal connections to others or something that calls for an investigation rather than simply a manifesto.

LE keep things close to the vest all the time for a variety of reasons but nearly always in the public's best interest. I trust they're doing the right thing releasing things only as needed without putting people at risk just to satiate the media's thirst for salacious headlines and the understandable yet oftentimes dangerous "need for answers" by the public.

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10-03-2017 , 09:16 PM

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Guardian: Las Vegas shooting suspect's girlfriend is 'person of interest', says sheriff

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10-03-2017 , 09:17 PM

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Thank you OP, as is standard in 2017 I'm getting news from the internet 30-45 mins before it's reported live.

Any discussion about the leaks? Incredible that the public is getting the info seemingly instantly.

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10-03-2017 , 10:16 PM

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pocket_zeros

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Daily Mail: Police Release Bodycam Footage

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10-03-2017 , 10:35 PM

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The earlier report from Fox saying the police took 72 minutes to get to Paddock seems inconsistent with a CNN piece tonight saying he fired for about eleven minutes. The eleven minute number seems much more likely — on full auto, I’d think casualties would be higher than 59/500 if we’re talking about 72 minutes.

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10-03-2017 , 10:41 PM

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https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...hread-1285169/

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10-03-2017 , 10:43 PM

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pocket_zeros

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I noticed that too. What I believe happened is the early responders/police arrived on his floor and he stopped shooting when he noticed them in the hallway (via the camera he hid in the food cart). He probably thought they were going to rush him any minute so killed himself soon after. It then took 30+ minutes before they rushed his room.

"When first responders got to the hotel room, Paddock shot through the door, striking one of the hotel's security guards in the leg. SWAT team members then used an explosive device to force the door open into the hotel room but found Paddock had committed suicide."

FoxNews: Police took 72 minutes from first emergency call to reach Las Vegas shooter

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10-03-2017 , 10:57 PM

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pocket_zeros

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Photos and bios for many of the victims:

Daily Mail

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10-03-2017 , 11:10 PM

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Howard Treesong

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Please read and look through those. It is all too easy to turn the number 59 into a statistic, and it is much harder to do so looking at each of those and seeing the joy they had in their lives that this prick Paddock obliterated.

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10-03-2017 , 11:17 PM

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I was also wondering if this girlfriend influenced him in some way (Isis?). She just happened to be out of the country during this massacre. Really interested to hear her side of it.

What has the news said about their relationship? how recent of a GF is she?

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