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In terms of the night club shooting the motive was known and there were clear warning signs. and the night club shooter didnt have the profile of being a 'high stakes gambler'.

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Speculating here, but grinding video poker for 24hrs straight could possibly have negative implications. At least with blackjack or craps there is time to rest between shift changes and dealer shuffles, but video poker, especially for long durations, i.e. for 24 hours straight, sounds pretty intense in comparison to any other casino game. There is some speculation about what mass multitabling online poker can do to your brain -- dont see video poker when played in excess, over long periods of time, and for long durations, being all that different but could be off-base. Not that it would explain someone to lash out violently but could trigger some mental deterioration over time and further Paddock's inability to relate to his peers to some degree.

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news...brain-on-poker

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I agree with the pending litigation that Paddocks assets, whatever they may be, should go to the victims and not the family.

I don't think 24 tabling with far harder decisions, averaging one decision every 1-2 seconds, is comparable with the mindless clicking at a video poker machine.

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10-15-2017 , 09:07 AM

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There's no stopping conspiracy nuts from being nuts.

You've got to admit there's some strange things going on. For example check out minutes 13:00 to 16:18 on this link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0d-224gmRs

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10-15-2017 , 09:36 AM

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You've got to admit there's some strange things going on. For example check out minutes 13:00 to 16:18 on this link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0d-224gmRs

Full on tin foil right there.. Amazing. lol

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10-15-2017 , 10:23 AM

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You've got to admit there's some strange things going on. For example check out minutes 13:00 to 16:18 on this link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0d-224gmRs

Loomis and the infowar host are ridiculous nutjobs. Their logic leaps are stupid. The questions she asks the security guard results in no information but she acts like she waterboarded the guy with her interrogation techniques. Stoo acting like these idiots add anything,

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10-15-2017 , 12:58 PM

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Lol. He had expired license tags! Mine are like 3 yrs expired, just haven't bothered to put the new ones on

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10-15-2017 , 02:37 PM

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Still would like to see the video of shooter checking in and who was in garage, elevators and stairwells with him (since, apparently, there is no hallway video) when carrying his bags full of guns and ammo.

Also video inside elevators at time of shooting to see if those inside react in any way to sound of gunfire/loud noise could pinpoint the exact time that the first shot was fired inside the hotel.

If people are spreading "crazy" conspiracies it is largely because of how poorly the investigation has been communicated to the public and the families of the deceased. As noted, the best case scenario at this point is incompetence.

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10-15-2017 , 03:11 PM

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Unfortunately there's going to be nutjob conspiracy theories no matter what video evidence released.

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10-15-2017 , 03:59 PM

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If people are spreading "crazy" conspiracies it is largely because of how poorly the investigation has been communicated to the public and the families of the deceased.

No it's because they want to make money with clicks from the stupid and gullible.

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10-15-2017 , 04:00 PM

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^^^^
And sometimes "nutjob conspiracy theories" prove true years later like the Gulf of Tonkin incident and MKUltra.

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10-15-2017 , 04:02 PM

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No it's because they want to make money with clicks from the stupid and gullible.

That's a bonus for the media and those benefiting from such clicks, but no one thinks this investigation -- from the perspective of timelines revealed at the very least -- has been handled professionally.

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10-15-2017 , 04:22 PM

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If people are spreading "crazy" conspiracies it is largely because of how poorly the investigation has been communicated to the public and the families of the deceased. As noted, the best case scenario at this point is incompetence.

Standard corporate malfeasance and cover-ups are a much more likely source of inconsistencies in the story than conspiracy theories that might include additional actors or government involvement. Anyone who starts talking about false flag operations or links to ISIS should probably be sterilized so that their DNA can be eliminated from the gene pool.

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10-15-2017 , 04:39 PM

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There are literally millions of possible permutations of the event as of this moment. Crazy conspiracies or not, nobody has put together a definitive timeline with known actors to rule these out. (although some I'm sure are reasonably close to zero probability)

The longer we go the greater likelihood of some kind of cover up with evidence destroyed and greater difficulty piecing together what actually happened.

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10-15-2017 , 05:03 PM

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I guess we can't rule out the involvement of aliens, then. (Space aliens, not the stupid conspiracy stuff I've seen speculating that Jesus Campos is an illegal/undocumented alien.)

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10-15-2017 , 06:05 PM

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^^^^
You seem to be working over-time to make it know that those with whom you disagree should be sterilized or are mentally defective (""idiots" gun nuts" "conspiracy nuts").

I haven't heard about him being an illegal immigrant (just that he may not have been properly licensed and therefore not someone that the MB should have employed), but if he is or is not how does that fall under "stupid conspiracy stuff" when he was reported to be the staff person that encountered the shooter?

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10-15-2017 , 06:22 PM

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Question - how does the security guard only get shot once in the leg if the shooter has a hallway camera and unlimited ammo? Shooter should obv. Know guard was still alive and spray the hallway.

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10-15-2017 , 06:41 PM

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and why the leg he had cameras and a massive arsenal, i think i heard he fired 200 rounds into hallway in the direction of his legs

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10-15-2017 , 06:42 PM

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I guess we can't rule out the involvement of aliens, then. (Space aliens, not the stupid conspiracy stuff I've seen speculating that Jesus Campos is an illegal/undocumented alien.)

That one and many others reasonably close to zero. If you have any other similar explanations I'll offer you a prop with 10:1 odds.

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10-15-2017 , 06:52 PM

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ITT posters manifesting their lack of understanding how large organizations operate.

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10-15-2017 , 07:31 PM

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That video was so idiotic that I don’t even know how to describe it. Crazy aggressive and incoherent journalists gather around events like this like flies gather around a turd.

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10-15-2017 , 08:02 PM

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^^^^
You seem to be working over-time to make it know that those with whom you disagree should be sterilized or are mentally defective (""idiots" gun nuts" "conspiracy nuts").

Yes, yes I am. I'm not going to pretend to respect idiots on this topic.

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10-16-2017 , 12:08 AM

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So the people who the Police wont give information to about the inestigation have concluded the inestigation is being handled incompetently? That makes about as much sense as Loomis' theories.....

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10-16-2017 , 08:23 AM

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Full on tin foil right there.. Amazing. lol

I 'love' dudes like you who instantly call people tinfoil hat wearing freaks without any sort of research on your end. You just eat whatever media feeds you and then parrot and support it. Was Las Vegas massacre a conspiracy? I dont know and yout dont know either so stop with your tinfoil hat bull****. Conspiracies do happen. There is evidence about conspiracies from past. Did you even study recent history or do you just take whatever your schoolbooks tell you as a dogma?

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10-16-2017 , 09:00 AM

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Some conspiracy theories can instantly be ruled out because they make no sense. The people supporting such theories never seem to realize it due to profoudly bad critical thinking skills. They think they're thinking critically, when really they're paranoid and delusional. Anyone open to the idea that this mass shooting was a false flag of some kind, perhaps orchestrested by the gov't to help ban guns, would be a perfect example of that. No point arguing with people like that, they are hopeless.

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10-16-2017 , 10:52 AM

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WTF? Firing into a crowd of people with automatic weapons for no reason whatsoever makes no sense....can we instantly rule out that this even happened?

I don't believe a conspiracy of any kind took place here, but until this massive void of "why" is filled, nothing is going to make sense.

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