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I get that, was just hoping we could try to be better. build the interest for the game and get more people into it. Or we could be swarmy asshats which is fun too.

what do you respect more - gamble of a wealthy man getting spotted 9bb/100 to play against a kid whose been alive as long as you've been playing the game?

or the hustle of a guy spotting 9bb/100 to a rich dude who regularly plays high rollers against some of the best in the world without any vig?

tough to say.

I don't have a clue about thebet if it's good or bad for whoever, just think fair play to this Landan guy for propelling himself into a big spot and kudos to Perkins for stepping up, puts his money where his mouth which i personally respect.

9bb seems like a lot but also might not be a lot, who knows!

Phil Galfond leaked some really high EV HU challenge tactics. He essentially said that he prefers to lay odds on a sidebet rather than lay bb/100, as the bb/100 can be very difficult to overcome especially if the opponent has had adequate time to prepare. Might be something to keep in mind when negotiating your HU challenges.

im so dissapointed in this twoplustwo forum, i cant believe people think bill perkins has any chance vs any kind of poker regular at hu

Hello???? wake up people bill is a casual he is losing a ton at 6 max, casuals like these at hu are losing like 20-30bb min easy, 9bb is exactly nothing. complete hustle from landon cant believe no one is waking bill up lol but i guess his ego is too big.

Anyway i have zero belief that bill is gonna ever finish this challenge lol hes gonna get so bored after 4k hands when he sees hes down over 10 buyins.

This assumes that Bill doesn't study at all before the challenge starts though (which according to social media he has already begun to do)

you have a very liberal definition of respect. and i respect that.

haha

Well, lots of chat in the gambling world, lot of hot air, so whenever anyone backs up the nonsense with some cash and action I'm happy to see it.

i am yet to see a 10 year poker fish become a regular and play decent poker )

if your idea of a poker fish is a deca-millionare who made it trading the energy market ... your poker game is beyond dead.

If the stakes and side action are anywhere near enough to get Perkins excited ... it wouldn't take much studying for it to be a layup win for him being given that many bbs.

It's kinda hard to convince oneself that Perkins will take this seriously enough after seeing him on a yacht in the virgin islands. Maybe he has ridiculous intrinsic drive to do this and hammer some Tice backers, but the opportunity cost of being in the poker lab vs yachting in paradise seems hard to overcome

lol, I love how in the same forum we have people arguing that Stefan is beating Limitless for 30bb/100 based on 15k hands samplesize in one thread, and doubting if a semi-decent reg can beat Perkins with 9bb handicap in another

In hu, edges between good regs are tiny, edges between regs (be it good or bad) and whales are massive. Perkins might very well be -50bb/100 here, if you'll factor in that he'll probably tilt etc. Anyone saying otherwise either does not play hu or is trying to not tap the glass/hoping for some future action

and yes, I am aware that Perkins now plays significantly better than he did when he first started appearing on tv - he would have been more than 100bb loser hu back then, and yes, it is possible in that format

e: fwiw, I don't think that Perkins is actually -50bb/100 here, more like 30-40, but 50 might also be the case

Seems like you are greatly underestimating how much easier it will be for Perkins to get a lot better fast since he can just pay a great player to break the strategy down for him. If he is doing this bet he obviously is at least mildly motivated to put in a bit of time. All he needs to do is be able to implement a strategy that is going to be put in front of him. It'd be way different if he had to learn/study on his own. Either way he's obv not coming in losing 30-40bb/100.

Yeah im sure Perkins will discuss in depth strategy with the top solver regs of the world rofl

My prediction is that Perkins will play 2.5k hands , gets bored/annoyed, wants to bang hot prostitutes on an yacht instead and just buy out.

Seems the most +lifeEV decision.

Lmao

Like that's easy. Landon is a professional, Perkins far from it.If Perkins can play for 1 hour sessions whenever he wants and take 1 year to complete this he has a chance. If he needs to complete it faster and play long sessions unless he just starts sunrunning and has a massive upswing on the beginning, he will eventtually tilt.

You're right I'm sure he can't afford to pay them for their time

Who said it was easy? He's going to have to put in some time/effort. Getting spotted 9bb/100 is incredibly significant to how difficult this is.

Landon is good but he's a relatively new player with not that much money. If perkins starts running hot the pressure will be huge for Landon.

The hell are you talking about? Landon effectively has unending money. There would be a line around the block to stake him if for some reason his actual backers wanted out

+1

I don’t think people are saying he doesn’t have the means, he will just lack the desire to do it.

He loves doing goofy stuff and making silly bets, but there’s really nothing really that interesting here going against a talented yet unknown player staked by the world

i just learned about this challenge. can someone please explain in simple terms what the "laying 9bb per 100" means in terms of the odds? i have no clue what that means. is that saying he is basically laying 9-to-1?

There are no odds. It means Landon pays Perkins 9bb per 100 hands they play. They will be playing 200/400, so Landon pays Perkins $3600 for every 100 hands they play.

Or $720k for all 20k hands.