He's a smart man but destiny is destiny

Said no smart man ever.

I need Mama Tice's view on this bet. It seems really bad but what do we now bout destiny.

Can you memorize "person woman man camera tv" though?

all im getting from this is that everyone loves to exaggerate on twitter by a billion

I'd doubt most people could if they didn't know they needed to in advance and then it was brought up way later.

He won player of the week by coming second? The guy who won it must be malding hard right now.

What is "somuchpoker" and why is this kid so self absorbed that he thinks he made it all the way to poker twitter's #1 most hated? Even when he tries to make a joke it's a self absorbed cringe fest.

cringe

"F them haters bro"

Haha true but who else is more actively hated at the moment? He must be at least in the top 5

Does any1 know if Joey is still in Landons corner? I think Joey really got fooled by Landon into thinking he was some top gto wizard when he is nowhere near a top player online or live
Just watch any of those hu live streams between Doug & Dnegs when Joey had Landon at the gto headquaters Joey would ask Landon what he thought about a play or hand & he'd spout out some poker lingo & big words out of the dictionary like some1 would do trying to sound smart (just like Berkey does all the time!)
You could see Joey had no f'n clue what Landon was talking about but that's cause Joey doesn't play NLH if he did he would have been looking at Landon like wtf are even talking about lol they both had zero hu experience but Landon it was easy to tell he was so full of himself talking like he was on the top 10 hu power rankings

Why is anyone still talking about this kid?

again, please spare us from your foolish hot takes.

1. joey was the one hyping the kid up as if he was the hottest thing since sliced bread.
2. joey has mentioned he's now studying NLHE quite extensively, so he most definitely wasn't lost in the conversation.

Joey is lost in Mexico still I think, like a week ago he said he was coming home to do a podcast with Landon and then on todays solve4why stream Landon said he won't be doing any content with Joey until hes back home

Rumor has it he's been detained at the border for the cultural appropriation of the term "Papi". The cartels that run the government there didn't find it as cute as the poker community.

Joey seems shady as hell, he is so unreliable and seems to talk out of ass all time, what was reason he disappeared to Mexico for so long?

He was apart of that 25k HU stream, probably stayed for the weather... relax

Clearly he's on the Mexican girl grind or fell in love already, geesh.

First of all...

Nice.

Secondly, regarding that WSOP bet... what IS a good line? Like everyone else here, I don't have a good handle on his NLHE tournament skills. Hell, 10 years worth of WPT and WSOP results don't provide a fair sample size for that, so 15 cashes in the last year really reveal nothing.

Out of curiosity, I went onto the WSOP site and grabbed a handful of people who a) generally play a lot of WSOP NLHE events and/or b) have a fairly recent* history of success in tourney poker. Not exactly a random sample, but also not a hard-target search – the selection process was me going through 2019's WSOP results and clicking some familiar names.

Justin Bonomo: 57 cashes from 2007-20, 4 wins
Kristen Bicknell: 45 cashes from 2013-21, 3 wins
Rainer Kempe: 43 cashes from 2015-20, 0 wins
Jonathan Little: 44 cashes from 2006-19, 0 wins
Shannon Shorr: 122 cashes from 2006-21, 0 wins
Tristan Wade: 57 cashes from 2007-21, 2 wins
Anthony Zinno: 100 cashes from 2008-21, 2 wins
Isaac Baron: 30 cashes from 2009-20, 1 win
Maria Ho: 64 cashes from 2005-20, no wins
Ryan Laplante: 108 cashes from 2011-21, 1 win

Collectively, that's 127 years of cashes in the WSOP and related events with 13 total wins. (Shorr throws that off quite a bit – I assume he tops many "best player without a bracelet" lists.) The 127 years is a little rough, since some people might have skipped a year or had a span with very little volume.

Is Landon on par with that group? Better? Worse? Again, I have no idea. But that group has shown a rate of about one win for every 10 years played. Yes, a bet throws this off, because a player would load up on more events if he/she has a bracelet bet going.

Anyway, I wanted to get an idea, not sure how much this helps. Obviously, I could cherry-pick a group that suggests 8-to-1 is a steal, and another one that says 8-to-1 is pipe dream. I'll let others decide if there is any illustrative value to this.




*I specifically skipped anyone who predated the poker boom because I only wanted players whose record spans the current era, with larger fields, etc. Of course, I could have easily chosen a Phil Ivey but only looked at the last 15 or so years worth of his WSOP/WSOPE/WSOPC results.

It's pretty meaningless, especially when we don't know how many tournaments they played. But that's 13 wins out of ~700 cashes. Unless these players have just crushed they've probably played a good few thousand tournaments combined

Tourneys are hard to win, kid is on a heater so all that humble talk out the window. A few weeks ago he was ready to jump off a bridge lol

What's funny about that?

he had to finish up his work as a cartel hitman

A man cannot be an incel if he has stacks of cash. It's just not possible.

If he excludes himself from getting laid, it would just be considered ol' fashioned celibate, as opposed to involuntarily.

Not sure either, but probably a lot closer to 40/50-1 than 10-1. If he was some sort of mix game end boss that had an edge in those small fields maybe half of that? Haven't played with him enough, but from what I have he seemed to play well in MTTs online. Didn't really get a vibe that he was on par with the top tier online MTT regs, but he's probably on par with the tier right below that. He hasn't played any sort of real volume in live or online MTTs so it's all just kind of a guess. I suppose there is a good chance he's getting in big volume playing MTTs VPNing on a site that we won't name, but really have no idea what makes him think he's 10-1 on a bracelet lol. Seems like taking a lighter to $10K imo.