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07-25-2020 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by gaffled1
Damn! Burned alive?! What a horrible death. RIP

Where does it say she was burned alive?
07-25-2020 , 12:34 AM
People are the worst.
07-25-2020 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Lost130KDayTrading
Very tragic way to die. I will wager $300K that the person who killed her knew her and was premeditated murderer due to gambling debt.
Yo, what's up with you guy? You aren't going to wager anything, if you really wanted to get taken up on it you wouldn't post from an ALT. You just want attention or what? This is the time/place for you to try to hustle somebody? Or if you have zero knowledge and just want to pipe up, why you talking chit?
07-25-2020 , 10:39 AM
Only 33, what a damn shame. RIP young lady
07-25-2020 , 06:34 PM
tragic and horrible.

making national news as well. ABC World News Tonight doing a story on it tonight. The lead in to the story, showed a pic of her playing on what looked like Live at the Bike, but couldn't really tell
07-25-2020 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lost130KDayTrading
Very tragic way to die. I will wager $300K that the person who killed her knew her and was premeditated murderer due to gambling debt.
Somebody should probably look into this person, foreal.
07-25-2020 , 07:41 PM
https://www.marca.com/otros-deportes...2058b45f6.html

News article in a sport newspaper from Spain, pretty high up on the main page. Headline reads something like: 'Body of poker star found calcined: "When you have this job you're at risk of owing money to someone".

Never saw any news article on this same website about poker before fwiw, but we know how media is...

RIP
07-25-2020 , 08:37 PM
FB poster claimed that he played with her often and that she was busto, borrowing money, buying in for the minimum at 1/2 and frequently asking strangers for rides. If true very sad situation on many levels.
07-25-2020 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jjb511
FB poster claimed that he played with her often and that she was busto, borrowing money, buying in for the minimum at 1/2 and frequently asking strangers for rides. If true very sad situation on many levels.
I got the same vibe from another read on the internet or video source.
Why else would she take a job at cranbrook schools? And say La rent is too expensive?
She was not the high stakes crusher the media is portraying her at least not recently. 240k in 12 years hendon mob doesnt say much at least to me considering the many bullets she must have fired.
So owing a backer sounds reasonable.
07-25-2020 , 10:44 PM
Yo, are you guys ******ed or what? Why are you sitting around speculating on her death on an open forum if you don't even know her? If you think you have a lead call the cops if you think its helpful. What exactly are you trying to convince people of in here? You guys are scumbags for real.

And I mean you washoe. Who cares about her recent poker results you idiot she just got murdered.
07-25-2020 , 11:50 PM
Link to poster???
07-25-2020 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Eskaborr
Yo, are you guys ******ed or what? Why are you sitting around speculating on her death on an open forum if you don't even know her? If you think you have a lead call the cops if you think its helpful. What exactly are you trying to convince people of in here? You guys are scumbags for real.

And I mean you washoe. Who cares about her recent poker results you idiot she just got murdered.
You're the only one here who sounds ******ed. Are all the posts supposed to just say "RIP" and nothing else? People are raising legitimate questions that could potentially help solve this crime. If she was a poker crusher I'd be looking in the direction of people who might want to rob her. If she owed money all over town then I'd be questioning the people who might want to hurt her for ripping them off. To me it sounds more like the latter because crushers don't tend to move out of LA. If the media is painting the wrong picture of her then the cops may also be on the wrong trail.

Your anger is misplaced and the name-calling is out of line.
07-26-2020 , 12:24 AM
Tragic story. RIP and hope they find the perpetrators.

Def not a crusher though. Hasn't played in LA for 2+ years, and probably wasn't doing super well before that. I suspect it's more than just gambling debt, because that rarely is a good reason to kill someone (can't collect from the dead).
07-26-2020 , 12:36 AM
Well this forum is kind of meant to speculate on news and gossip (albeit so serious as death), nobody is being disrespectful. We don't need to pretend she as an awesome poker player if she wasn't, mostly just people pointing out the fact that the media is misrepresenting her.
07-26-2020 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Eskaborr
Yo, are you guys ******ed or what? Why are you sitting around speculating on her death on an open forum if you don't even know her? If you think you have a lead call the cops if you think its helpful. What exactly are you trying to convince people of in here? You guys are scumbags for real.

And I mean you washoe. Who cares about her recent poker results you idiot she just got murdered.
People shitting on a dead persons , sorry a murdered persons results... Wow
07-26-2020 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by NoControl
You're the only one here who sounds ******ed. Are all the posts supposed to just say "RIP" and nothing else? People are raising legitimate questions that could potentially help solve this crime. If she was a poker crusher I'd be looking in the direction of people who might want to rob her. If she owed money all over town then I'd be questioning the people who might want to hurt her for ripping them off. To me it sounds more like the latter because crushers don't tend to move out of LA. If the media is painting the wrong picture of her then the cops may also be on the wrong trail.

Your anger is misplaced and the name-calling is out of line.
Ah yes, you clueless 2p2 NVG sleuths who never met her are on it, thank god the detectives have you.
07-26-2020 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by snowie963
Well this forum is kind of meant to speculate on news and gossip (albeit so serious as death), nobody is being disrespectful. We don't need to pretend she as an awesome poker player if she wasn't, mostly just people pointing out the fact that the media is misrepresenting her.
Implying that she possibly owes money all around town from people who were not comfortable with her owing/would go to such drastic lengths as to kill her over it is not disrespectful? Sure rings of victim blaming.

Actual lead/theory= call the detectives.
Post from alts/across the world when you never met her on NVG 2p2 when someone can't defend themselves any longer because they literally just got murdered= scumbag idiot.
07-26-2020 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by H0RUS
Meh, this is a very emotional crime. Whoever did this knew her and hated her, not sure why.. Robbers 95% of the time just want the cash quickly as possible. The times where robberies go wrong and someone dies, its over quick. Whoever did this knew they wanted her dead and took the time to do it.

Im guessing it has nothing to do with robbery and maybe just an ex lover or pathetic incel.

Either way, RIP to her and condolences to her family.
I was a homicide detective for almost 10 years. Burning bodies is usually done to hide a crime, its not necessarily personal. In fact its rather impersonal when related to crimes of passion. In my experience, burning a body is usually done after a sexual assault. A burned body in the open often means the intention was not to kill the person, but one thing came to another and they wound up dead. Panic ensues, the murderer will burn the body in an attempt to cover their tracks.

Crimes of passion are usually much more brutal, much more up close and personal. Lighting a fire and walking away is someone trying to erase what they did, disassociate from it.
07-26-2020 , 12:01 PM
Thank you for your pov, that makes alot more sense.. I hope they find the bastard...
07-26-2020 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Schultz
Link to poster???
Not sure how to Link. It was posted by Brad Watkins in the Real Grinders FB poker group... If that helps. Sounded credible to me.
07-26-2020 , 02:30 PM
Truly sad what happened to her. I never met her but from everyone who knew her had nothing but good things to say especially about how upbeat and friendly she always was at the tables.

Not to derail the thread more but people in la will know better than me. I thought she was host of HP 5-10 game and then the game turned into a home game and she was still involved. This was a couple of years ago though so I guess she moved back to Michigan a while ago and was no longer involved in it?
07-26-2020 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by McHudson
I was a homicide detective for almost 10 years. Burning bodies is usually done to hide a crime, its not necessarily personal. In fact its rather impersonal when related to crimes of passion. In my experience, burning a body is usually done after a sexual assault. A burned body in the open often means the intention was not to kill the person, but one thing came to another and they wound up dead. Panic ensues, the murderer will burn the body in an attempt to cover their tracks.

Crimes of passion are usually much more brutal, much more up close and personal. Lighting a fire and walking away is someone trying to erase what they did, disassociate from it.
So the perp just happened to bring a lot of gasoline but didn't necessarily intend to kill the victim?
07-26-2020 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadMoneyWalking
So the perp just happened to bring a lot of gasoline but didn't necessarily intend to kill the victim?
I find it highly unlikely that the police have announced what accelerate was used, if any. Don't know how you jumped to that conclusion.

However, yes. Gasoline is an easily available purchase.You're assuming they brought it with them. You'd be surprised how many times someone was caught buying the tools to dispose of a body, after the crime had already been committed.

We once found a lady burned in her car. Found a bottle of lighter fluid in the back seat and searched around local gas stations to see if they had sold any of that particular brand. Sure enough, one of the gas stations had sold one and we got our suspect from the security footage showing the purchase. Ended up being a sexual assault that turned into a murder after the victim fought back with her own weapon, which the suspect wrestled away from her. The guy walked 2 and a half miles to get the lighter fluid and returned to the scene of the crime and attempted to burn the evidence.
07-26-2020 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
I got the same vibe from another read on the internet or video source.
Why else would she take a job at cranbrook schools? And say La rent is too expensive?
She was not the high stakes crusher the media is portraying her at least not recently. 240k in 12 years hendon mob doesnt say much at least to me considering the many bullets she must have fired.
So owing a backer sounds reasonable.
it'd definitely possible but hendon doesn't mean much.
there are people up high 6 figures and millions on hendon that are poker losers and people who aren't up much on hendon who crush cash
07-26-2020 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Eskaborr
Yo, are you guys ******ed or what? Why are you sitting around speculating on her death on an open forum if you don't even know her? If you think you have a lead call the cops if you think its helpful. What exactly are you trying to convince people of in here? You guys are scumbags for real.

And I mean you washoe. Who cares about her recent poker results you idiot she just got murdered.
well well, if that isnt eskaborr aka mr out of line himself! calling me out of line..pfff wtf bro. its somewhat noble of you and somewhat idiotic. But i give you the benefit of the doubt and answer your points.

1. Why are we speculating? Because we are poker players and if something like this happens we want it solved. the poker community is a small one. Similar as the postle case. You want justice. well may be not you, but most of us.

2. who cares about the results? maybe you cannot connect 2 dots and
maybe the results would lead to the truth.

3 there is a big discrepancy in the information you are reading in all newspapers and the truth about this I think. And that is what bothered me and I pointed that out. And its only a hunch I am having, her friends are saying she was a jetsetter. (Jetsetter is someone who travels out of state and is really really loaded) Newspapers are saying she was a highroller. We are fnding out that none of this is really true. Maybe the pressure of keeping up with that image was too much and thats how she got in trouble.

      
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