The updated info are beyond sick wtf

Seemed like a normal ish dude who’s into cars, has kids and family on his fb, an ex wife who’s also on fb, and some former occupation listed and even owned property at some point

Burn in hell

Read This: "Pro Poker Player Was Bound, Sexually Assaulted, ‘Lit on Fire’ After Motel Meeting"

I think we all assumed she was burned after death, and it was some kind of financial motive that made sense. That she was captured by a sadist and burned to death is horrifying.

According to the Daily Mail she picked up this guy along some road. Then they checked into a motel to party. Then they went out to buy alcohol before returning to her room. The story is so bizarre and tragic.

This style of killing is very heavily correlated to serial killers, btw.

Occasionally you see extreme sadism murders of this sort with gang rapes that escalate into torture-murder, or with cartel or warlord killings when they capture an enemy or a traitor within their ranks or something like that.

But, when it's just some random lone dude like this, and he just randomly picks some person to methodically tie up and sexually torture and burn alive, where it's pretty obvious that extreme sexual-sadism was the primary motivator at hand, that indicates pretty strongly towards the killer being a serial killer.

If he wasn't already a serial killer, then I'm guessing this dude was a "would-be" serial killer who was about to become one and happened to get caught right after his very first kill.

But considering his age, the odds of it being his first murder, assuming he is a serial killer type, seems unlikely, since they usually start at a younger age than this. Also, a serial killer's very first kill usually isn't this in-depth and severe, since they are inexperienced and nervous. This looks more like once they already have done it a few times and have their method down and everything.

My guess is that this dude is a serial killer who has killed numerous women before this.

Yup, I'm pretty certain, he's done this many times in the past 60 years of his life. Once a sex offender, always a sex offender.

Doubtful that he is a serial killer though. Way too sloppy.

Looks like a chance meeting that went horrible awry.

Yea, it looks like he did make it fairly easy for them to catch him. So, that would cut the odds of him already being a serial killer down quite a bit, since if he was that sloppy each time, the odds of getting caught each time he killed someone would be high enough to make it unlikely for him to be able to kill enough multiple people to get to the point of being a serial killer.

Well, hopefully that is the case, since it would mean he had less victims or only this one victim, rather than a whole bunch.

Ah just noticed the part about him going with her into a store to buy alcohol.

If this dude literally walked together with her into a store (aka on security cam) to buy stuff, right before he killed her, then obv he is a total moron who would get caught after 1 murder almost guaranteed, so, there goes the whole serial killer thing in that case, unless he only killed hitchhikers out in the middle of nowhere normally or something and it was his first time trying to hang out with a victim in a city before killing them or something.

Pretty insane how sadistic he went though, for a non-serial killer if he wasn't one.

Maybe he did some bath salts or pcp or something and went totally batshit like those dudes who were biting people's faces off in broad daylight a few years back or whatever it was.

Anyway, **** this friggin dbag. What a pos

Condolences to her friends and family

No chance he is a serial killer.

He had to know law enforcement was on the case, yet he stayed in the same vicinity.

Idiot that deserves the death penalty, although it will probably be life in prison.

No death penalty in Michigan.

This popped up on my monstrous list of YouTube subscriptions. Scott Reisch is a veteran criminal attorney who now does a channel in which he provides updates and commentary on whatever high-profile cases are hitting the headlines.



Zhao's segment starts at 1:20. He actually reported on it in a previous episode, but the details were pretty scant at the time. Not much commentary here (yet), just a report of what has been revealed so far in other outlets.

https://www.crimeonline.com/2020/08/...e-room-report/

Main quote from that link that adds to the horrible details reported elsewhere -"Investigators said that Zhao stayed at the same motel several times before her death."

Assuming it's true (I don't know that news source), make of that what you will. Obviously seedy motels with a sex offender was a tragic mistake no matter what her reasoning was.

Just because he was careless with this kill doesn't mean he's never done it before. He could've gotten away several times and since this was a public case, he finally got caught. No sane person just wakes up one day and says, I'm gonna torture someone and burn them alive for fun. It's in their blood...

I'll be very shocked if there isn't a history of substance abuse. And even though the facts are pretty clear, the state of MI doesn't spend $1 million in professional man hours to get him life.

Doubtful. Way too sloppy. Left behind reams of evidence. This seems to be a chance encounter that went horribly awry.

He did a horrible job trying to cover his tracks.

golfnutt,

How about this. The likelihood the assailant has done heinous stuff before is very high; specifying exactly what is kind of impossible.

Why does this attorney feel compelled to refer to this previously convicted sex offender elon and suspected murderer as a "gentleman" ?

According to the attorney vlog itt on this case, this guy has a prior sex offender conviction .... so specifying what heinous stuff he has done previously is hardly "kind of impossible".

I mean, just because someone calls someone a gentleman doesn't mean they think that they are in fact a gentleman.

Could have been a particular kink that went wrong and he panicked with the body burning. The details released so far do not suggest a man who is capable of going undetected.

Hope he doesn't taste freedom again.

RIP and thoughts to her family

Probably something along these lines. Guy is an idiot and didn’t know his story wouldn’t match cell phone records.

I do imagine that it is pretty rare to commit your first murder at age 60. I don’t think this was planned, even though he is getting charged with pre-meditated murder. Not certain how they legally define it.

It is no obvious that he's somewhere on the Dark Triad of personalities given that he viewed a living human as mere evidence which needed to be destroyed.

It makes you wonder what other scalable scumbag bullsh*t he has done up to this point in time of being caught, especially given his apparent lack of intelligence and foresight.

Doesn't have to be all A or all B. Could be a lifelong violent criminal whose deteriorating mental state from hard drugs + progressive mental illness has reached a point where he can longer think clearly enough to cover his tracks.

I tend to agree that a person doesn't just wake up one day and start committing crimes of this nature. Most likely if you investigated his past you'd find escalation from animal abuse to stuff like rape, sexual assault, and maybe even kidnapping before he finally started killing people.

Sad story, but glad this POS is off the streets.

I recall playing with her at Commerce about a decade ago. Quiet, popular among the grinders her age, pretty good at the live poker.

I feel pretty confident that Bart knew her well, at least at some point. He knows all the LA regs.

This is terrible and I pray this guy gets what’s deserved once he’s behind bars. May his death be worse than hers.