While I find what this man did to be disgusting, despicable, reprehensible and inexcusable, I don't see why it's relevant at a poker table. He has every right to be there and that's how it should be.

You certainly don't have to respect him as a person and I most definitely do not, but I respect his right to be there.

NP hope you one day you can shake his hand! In fact, during a dinner break at tournament have dinner with him and introduce him to your kids.

Someone needs to wear a Pedobear outfit at his table.

There's a big difference. Poker is a self policing game. If someone cheats at cards the poker community has to take action to prevent him from doing it again. They have to put his name out there to protect others from the cheater and hopefully create an incentive for him and others to never cheat again.

In the case of the scumbag child molester he did his time. And the people who need to know he is a child molester (parents, schools, etc.) know about it.

There is no need to smear someone's reputation for no productive reason. That's what you did and that's why you got the backlash.

Did you read my post two above yours (#21)?

I think you should.

not unheard of for 15 year olds to show fake ids.......... given the "child" wouldn't testify why are we assuming this wasn't consensual?

think this thread is out of line without more details (which you don't have).

Stating facts that are public record is not "smearing someone's reputation" -- it's simply informing people of a truth about this man that they may not be aware of.

aura wasn't the OP, btw.

Your very welcome Jared! Hope all is well
He has every right to play wherever he wants. I feel I have a duty to warn players about this sex offender who preys on kids. It is players choice if they want to play with him in same tournament or table game-no pun intended.

I played with this guy!! haha

played cash with him, he's pretty spewy and bad lol.

There was some black guy who had told me that this guy was a child molester after I had been sitting for a little. The black guy, I think he was from Africa, really had it out for this guy, was constantly talking **** to him. But, it seemed like everyone knew that he was a child molester.

Never thought there would be a thread dedicated to him, Lol.

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I have and very easy to look up. Go to Riverside County Ca. Court of Clerks and look it up with details

Umm, damage to ones' reputation is independent of whether it's factual or not. The motive of the OP is explicitly to lynch him out of the poker world. That's completely unfair, and his reputation (which may or may not be presently representative of who he is as a person) would certainly be tarnished.

That's simply for the more recent charges. He was convicted and did time for the counts I enumerated. Did you read the OP's links?

post the details?

Way to refute my comment with a well thought out and constructive reply. You're a masterdebater!!!!

I wasn't the OP.

I was only saying that it's perfectly fine for the OP to tell us what this guy did.

The backlash I've gotten is because I wondered out loud why the responses itt were so tolerant of his offenses.

Again, I'll reiterate for those who have trouble understanding me... it's okay for that child molester to play in tourneys, but it's also okay for the OP to out him. It's a matter of public record, and he deserves the attention he gets imo.

NVG never ceases to amaze me.

Isn't lilholdem convicted of sexual battery or something?

Kinda funny that if someone is caught cheating at poker they will be outcast for life.

But when someone rapes kids, well thats just fine then...

You have a duty to warn parents and children about a guy who preys on children.

You DO NOT have a duty to warn random poker players about a guy who preys on children.

Really surprised that you wouldn't understand the difference.

I thought vigilantism died out sometime in the 1700s or 1800s? Today anyway, the United States is a nation of laws. So why do you think you're a better arbiter of the law than those entrusted to do so?

There is no excuse for what this person did, but he paid his debt to society and has as much a right to be at the poker table as you do. I'm sure you wouldn't want people digging around in your closets rummaging around for the first thing they could use to publicly castigate you, would you?

Let the authorities handle the application of the law, you just keep enjoying all the freedoms that being a law abiding citizen entails.

lol are you serious? it's assumed society will police itself to some extent by badgering and harassing people like sex offenders. now i'm not personally promoting the use of violence or mean-spiritedness towards criminals, but it's fairly amusing to think he's paid his time and we should not smear his reputation. it's on his public record not only to protect people, but to smear his reputation in various ways. being constantly rejected by your peers is often the price one pays for molesting a kid. nothing wrong with that.

Just curious, OP, but obviously you don't want him playing poker. You probably don't want him to have any kind of job, you definitely don't want him living in your neighborhood.

Is he allowed to buy a car?
Can he have a bank account?
Should his SS Card be revoked?

I don't in any way condone what this individual has done, but really what harm is being done by him playing poker?? Seriously. It's not like he's a school crossing guard.
I guess the other alternative is death by hanging?

He clearly doesn't deserve it. I mean it's a pretty basic tenet of modern society that random citizens aren't allowed to dish out punishments as they see fit; particularly when it's over and above a sentence already imposed by the government. He committed a crime, and the legal system imposed an expertly assessed sentence. That is what he deserved: no more, no less. Now, he deserves your empathy just as any other person does.