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Kevin Hart signed with PokerStars WTF?? Kevin Hart signed with PokerStars WTF??

05-11-2017 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
You quoted my post in this response, but I have no idea how it's related.

Yes, I believe he's a dude who appeared in Scary Movie 3, and I imagine some people think he's "alllriiight" - what are you confused about?
i mean how many people outside the usa know this dude(i'm certainly not one of them)? maybe few millions? ok ten million? and how many people know ronaldo and neymar? i'd say at least a billion (2014 FIFA World Cup reached 3.2 billion viewers, one billion watched final). that's at least 100x more people, probably 1000x more
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05-11-2017 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CoreySteel
Ouch :P

Regarding Kevin Hart. Of course he's well known in Europe too. Most young adults who watch movies know him. Still no way near Ronaldo/Neymar tho.
canadians know ronaldo and soccer but we still dont give a **** about him or his boring sport. we just castch it on tv like young adult catch this midget hart on comedy movies

Mr Bean never works in the US market.

Kevin Hart probably works meh in europe and russia (where the poker market is atm)

Last edited by OhEllNo; 05-11-2017 at 11:41 PM.
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05-12-2017 , 01:12 AM
Pokerstars can sign all the gimmicks they want but support continues to decline, software continues to get more unreliable and thats the facts. The actual gameplay at its core is a shell of what it was
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05-12-2017 , 01:18 AM
If pokerstars really gave a s about growing the game for the sake of players they would ban all software that gives any advantage over another, they would make support even close to what it was and would improve the software reliability emmensly. It seems all they want is to grow the numbers to increase profits in games where a mahority of dollars is put in their pockets, not ours and increase the value so it can be sold to a company like will hill not laughed at.
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05-12-2017 , 01:58 AM
Get Hard was ****ing hilarious

Good signing by Stars, not gonna get me to come back after allround brutalness though
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05-12-2017 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by yegor
i mean how many people outside the usa know this dude(i'm certainly not one of them)? maybe few millions? ok ten million? and how many people know ronaldo and neymar? i'd say at least a billion (2014 FIFA World Cup reached 3.2 billion viewers, one billion watched final). that's at least 100x more people, probably 1000x more
With over a billion dollars in non-US box office, a lot more than a million people. As for Ronaldo and Neymar, yes, it's quite possible that more people know them. Does that mean that bringing them back as sponsors would be better than signing Kevin Hart? Neither of us know, but I would hope Poker Stars has done more research on it than you or I. Maybe they feel Ronaldo & Neymar have had their impact and it was time for a new audience. Maybe they have reason to believe that people who know Hart will convert better. Maybe Hart was cheaper or provides better value in other ways. Who knows?

The point is this - plenty of people outside the US know who he is, so I think it's kind of silly to dismiss the signing out of hand.
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05-12-2017 , 03:04 AM
Okay, so we have a few people in this thread who insist Hart is well-known outside the U.S., and others who seem to think he's a non-entity. So let's do some digging.

Let's start with movies. I'll limit the searches to films for which he had a major role, as opposed to those in which he had a support role or bit part. I will also leave out The Secret Life Of Pets, since it was a voice-only role plus its audience does not crossover well with poker. [Source: BoxOfficeMojo]

RIDE ALONG (2014)
U.S. lifetime grosses: $134.9 million
Foreign lifetime grosses: $19.5 million

RIDE ALONG 2 (2016)
U.S. lifetime grosses: $91.2 million
Foreign lifetime grosses: $33.4 million

SCARY MOVIE 3 (2003)
U.S. lifetime grosses: $110.0 million
Foreign lifetime grosses: $110.7 million

GET HARD (2015)
U.S. lifetime grosses: $90.4 million
Foreign lifetime grosses: $21.4 million

THE WEDDING RINGER (2015)
U.S. lifetime grosses: $64.5 million
Foreign lifetime grosses: $15.3 million

CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE (2016)
U.S. lifetime grosses: $127.4 million
Foreign lifetime grosses: $89.5 million

ABOUT LAST NIGHT (2014)
U.S. lifetime grosses: $48.6 million
Foreign lifetime grosses: $0.37 million

So bigger in the U.S. than overseas, as one would guess, but still at least a B-list celeb abroad from his film presence.

When it comes to his standup comedy, the actual films have almost exclusively a domestic release. However, you can get some idea from his tour schedules. There are four tours archived on kevinhartnation.com: What Now (2015), Let Me Explain (2012), Laugh At My Pain (2011), and Seriously Funny (2010). The 2010 tour only hit the U.S.

The What Now tour hit stops all around the world, plus Canada (which can also play on PokerStars). This includes such venues as Ericsson Arena in Stockholm, O2 in Berlin, Spectrum Arena in Olso, 3Arena in Dublin (close to Kells, by the way), Antwerp Sportpaleis, Suntec Singapore Convention Center, Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne, and the Dome in Johannesburg, among others.

The Let Me Explain tour did not extend as far as the What Now tour did, but he played Heineken Music Hall in Amsterdam and reportedly sold out London's O2 Arena, becoming just the second U.S. comedian to do so. Hart also played Folketeateret in Oslo and the China Teatern in Stockholm during this 2012 tour. 2011's Laugh At My Pain appears to be the first tour to branch out beyond the U.S. borders, as he played O2's Indigo in London.

Bottom line is this: Kevin Hart was the highest-earning comedian of 2016, reeling in some $87 million. Is he as big overseas as say, Russell Peters? No. Jim Jefferies? Probably not. But to my knowledge, those guys don't play poker. If Michael McIntyre shows an interest in PLO, then by all means, Stars should sign him up.

As for whether or not Kevin Hart measures up to Neymar or Ronaldo in terms of Q-score, just stop. No one in this thread has even implied that he holds a candle to any of them, and a few people have openly conceded that he doesn't. But PokerStars had those figures in their stable for years and arguably got all of the presence they can squeeze out of that association. Now it's time for them to move on to reach a different audience, even if it's a smaller one.
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05-12-2017 , 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by *CHOMP
If pokerstars really gave a s about growing the game for the sake of players they would ban all software that gives any advantage over another
you mean like hm2? how are you supposed to make money if you dont know who you playing with ?

i dont want to manually put notes on every players at my table on a website where theres millions of players.
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05-12-2017 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by OhEllNo
you mean like hm2? how are you supposed to make money if you dont know who you playing with ?

i dont want to manually put notes on every players at my table on a website where theres millions of players.
So you can't win without supporting software? and making a note is that hard?

I understand that people use it because its available, and why not get the extra edge for very little effort.
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05-12-2017 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nickjehz
So you can't win without supporting software? and making a note is that hard?

I understand that people use it because its available, and why not get the extra edge for very little effort.
the only way you can win without having any info on your opponent is the probability to make your bet against more fishes than regs.

i'll win less without hm2 because theres so many players online i cant put my attention at every on them. so why putting efforts on compilating data when a software can do it for you? you can now put your productivity somewhere else like on analysing the data.
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05-12-2017 , 09:48 AM
Kevin Hart Goes All-In at the 2017 Super High Roller Bowl
Comedian and actor confirmed for year's biggest event
https://www.pokercentral.com/article...gh-roller-bowl

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05-12-2017 , 05:26 PM
Hope there'll be streams of the Super High Roller bowl again this year - that was a pretty fun tournament to watch


Here's another thing that showed up with Kevin, in US Magazine:

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/-w482003



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Game time! Kevin Hart spoke with Us Weekly about his new role as global ambassador for PokerStars and how cash games have kept him out of trouble.

"It keeps me from doing stupid things,” the Central Intelligence actor, 37, told Us. "I'm not a partier. I'm married, I have kids now, so this is something my wife — she's OK with it.”

"She knows where I am. I can sit there and I'm out of trouble. It's been a hobby for quite some time and I think now, seeing the game and understanding the game at this level, it's just been a different piece of added fun," he says. "To rub elbows with these guys I sit at the table with, the quote-unquote 'pros', for me has been a bonus. I say 'quote-unquote' because I'm mixing it up. I made it to day two, that's a big deal for me. Technically, in my mind I won. Something I've been doing probably about 10 years.”

Hart added, “I play poker and I do it with friends. I do it with my family. I do it with my wife's girlfriends just to have fun. I do it and I'm silly with my kids when we play."

As far as what the pros think of him, Fatima Moreira told Us, “I actually met Kevin Hart in the Bahamas already, he was there as well [for a PokerStars tournament.] " I walked up to him yesterday here in Monte Carlo, expecting him to not remember me at all, and he said, 'Hey, I recognize you!' His big edge is that he will make people unfocused with all the jokes! No, but I think that bringing people to the game is important, and that’s what he intends to do.”
Haven't really been following the push for online poker in the US - is there a chance having Kevin as an ambassador might improve Stars'/poker's chances of getting legalized in more states, like California?
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05-12-2017 , 05:40 PM
the only way Kevin Hart can be good for the game is if he let poker be a part of his personality the same way Bill Nye is called the 'science guy'.

next step is to influence his entourage so we can see poker scene in hip hop videoclips.

and then you will see a new bunch of 18-21yo guys playing poker the same way financial courses should see higher demand when leonardo dicaprio play some badass fund manager making millions.
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05-12-2017 , 05:46 PM
look that magnificent poker scene in a a jay-z clip at 2:50. a video from 2009, i dont even like jay-z and i still remember that scene. thats what make people playing poker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS4U-HAHwps
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05-12-2017 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TrustySam
Hope there'll be streams of the Super High Roller bowl again this year - that was a pretty fun tournament to watch
Day 1 on Twitch, Facebook Live and YouTube. Rest on Poker Central behind paywall(?) from the article.
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05-12-2017 , 10:32 PM
Poker in pop culture 2009 was so great - it seemed to be everywhere

Still fun to watch in 2017 - although it sounds finding a live stream for day 2 of the Super High Roller bowl may be a bit of a challenge ... hopefully someone will set up a stream of their tv again, if they have it?
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06-03-2017 , 01:03 PM
After watching Hart's antics in SHRB2017, I have some thoughts.

I'm European and have known who Hart is for some time. He's an A-list celebrity, he's funny, inspirational, current and cool.

He's for sure going to bring people to poker and he's also going to make people who play casually more excited about playing.

At the tables, he brings a lot of humour. Sometimes it feels slightly forced or awkward, particularly when the rest of the table is stony faced or other players do not know how to interact. Mostly, though, it's entertaining and his reactions (as in his movies) are lively and often hilarious.

I understand why PS has recruited soccer/football players in the past, but other than their faces and names, they really added nothing in terms of personality. Kevin Hart, whether you like him or not, has spades of personality and is full of energy. His enthusiasm is infectious and that enthusiasm stretches to poker.

He did possibly better than expected in the SHRB as he had a tight style and didn't spew too many chips. This led to him knocking out a couple of big names (Hellmuth and Holz), which was fun to watch for sure.

However, the hands where he did well involved him having big pocket pair and having them hold. There was otherwise very little skill on display and Hart's style is not going to win him any tournaments because he bleeds chips in blinds and antes. He was constantly trying to recover from being whittled down.

I think this is the major issue with Hart being a prominent PS ambassador and participating in big tournaments. You want casual players to see Hart play and think, yeah, I can do that! If Kevin Hart can win, so can I! Instead, most players are likely to watch and think, okay, so even if you get good hands you can't win against a field of pros.

I would love to see him get some coaching and playing a solid game to be honest. Then he would be a perfect ambassador for PS and poker in general, rather than just a good one.
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09-17-2017 , 05:21 PM
Listen, here`s the thing:

If you can't spot the I-phone in your first half minute in the bedroom, then you are the sucker.
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09-17-2017 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by the_glaive
I would love to see him get some coaching and playing a solid game to be honest. Then he would be a perfect ambassador for PS and poker in general, rather than just a good one.
Ther's nothing in it for him [to get coaching and playing a solid game]

What he wins a tourny for????? 8 million....

He makes that and more for a movie.

He gets paid money by Stars win or lose

And he can play for fun [and not have to spend time being coached]

So it's never going to happen.

Unless...

For him it's a dream to win an EPT / WSOP / etc

Then he would do it all off his own back

But unless he has that unlikely dream/passion - it's silly talk to suggest that a superstar would go into a contract on some proviso that he will get training and play a solid game

Never going to happen

He can get paid a load - to act like a clown and have fun [that's what he brings to live events] - and print / ad copy he brings his endorsement - that stars thinks will reach the demographic of player they want signing up

At this stage, I can't see Stars wanting to portray a sponsored player that shines the light on coaching and becoming a solid player

Haven't they spent the last few years trying to ditch those sorts of players [?] and 'letting go' those types of sponsored pros ????
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09-18-2017 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by All Hail Circe
Listen, here`s the thing:

If you can't spot the I-phone in your first half minute in the bedroom, then you are the sucker.
Cheating scumbag.

I guess he is more of a poker player than I gave him credit for..
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09-18-2017 , 01:06 PM
More like pussaystars. Am I right or am I right
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09-18-2017 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
Cheating scumbag.

I guess he is more of a poker player than I gave him credit for..
lol yea shocker a celebrity making 50 mil a year is banging lots of women
i'm truly appalled.
also hate to break it to you but santa is fake.
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01-02-2019 , 04:49 AM
Let's talk about Kevin Hart Net Worth, Is he still earning the same?
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01-02-2019 , 06:07 AM
Real men dont examine other mens pockets
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