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06-09-2018 , 07:42 PM

#51

golfbum983

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Originally Posted by PeteBlow

To who?
He's got more bracelets than most of them combined.

Hellmuth has what 11 nl braclets and Ivey has 0?

Does that make him 11 times better and nlh then Ivey

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06-09-2018 , 07:49 PM

#52

SrslySirius

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Originally Posted by golfbum983

Hellmuth has what 11 nl braclets and Ivey has 0?

Does that make him 11 times better and nlh then Ivey

Actually it means that Hellmuth is infinitely better than Ivey at NLHE. So is Jerry Yang.

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Originally Posted by Sam Ganzfried

I think there should be a single hand of NLH between Bonomo, Holz, Colman, Hellmuth, and Ivey to determine once and for all who the best NLH tournament player ever is.

This is the only way to be sure.

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06-09-2018 , 07:49 PM

#53

Sir Huntington

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Originally Posted by golfbum983

Hellmuth has what 11 nl braclets and Ivey has 0?

Does that make him 11 times better and nlh then Ivey

LOL this got me googling thinking "wait Ivey has no bracelets?"

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06-10-2018 , 12:12 AM

#54

ihiteveryfish

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Originally Posted by that_anon_pgc

Obv 99% of it is variance but he is playing way better than 1/2/3 yrs ago

in the most recent pokernews video
he did say that he's "lucky" to get these results

but he also stated that he got no tough matches of winning the HU championship against Dpeters and some other online wizards

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06-10-2018 , 02:28 AM

#55

SenseiPoker

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Originally Posted by golfbum983

Hellmuth has what 11 nl braclets and Ivey has 0?

Does that make him 11 times better and nlh then Ivey

No, it makes Helmuth infinitely better than Ivey because the lim of 11/x as x -> 0 is equal to infinity. If Ivey had 1 NL bracelet, the Helmuth would only be 11 times better than him at that specific form of poker.

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06-10-2018 , 05:05 AM

#56

billstraightener

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He max late regged the 5k NLH, and got 7x the starting stack, He is clearly running well.

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06-10-2018 , 05:12 AM

#57

epcfast

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He's the 4 best NLH tournament players ever - would be the ten best if he didn't open up a few extra windows to make it fair.

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06-10-2018 , 11:40 AM

#58

Xenoblade

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obviously on a heater but bonomo is pretty good, it's impossible to tell who's the best player in poker, results certainly don't cut it

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06-10-2018 , 02:00 PM

#59

getmeoffcompletely

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>X wins a couple of 45 man SNGs
>X becomes the best player of all time

Like clockwork

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06-10-2018 , 02:05 PM

#60

Xenoblade

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just like LLinus atm for cash game

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06-10-2018 , 04:07 PM

#61

_red_dog

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SJW fish on a heater.

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06-10-2018 , 07:35 PM

#62

Bageled

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Originally Posted by TreadLightly

variance and playing well, similar to dan coleman and fedors run (i think now passing them or close to it)

also the obv lolmultiaccounting online and SJW personality has helped him crush the competition

How is Mr Coleman doing this year? Anyone know?

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06-10-2018 , 09:14 PM

#63

Katman

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Talk to me when he's getting a 1.85 markup.

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06-10-2018 , 09:46 PM

#64

anthonyps321

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Originally Posted by .isolated

Brilliant27 is quite frankly the best player of this or any generation.

Is this is an inside joke from an old Post? I looked at is opr and it doesn't quite reflect what you're saying LOL

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06-10-2018 , 10:13 PM

#65

TreadLightly

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Originally Posted by Bageled

How is Mr Coleman doing this year? Anyone know?

based on instagram he is grinding the beach and snowboarding life

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06-10-2018 , 10:54 PM

#66

.isolated

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Originally Posted by anthonyps321

Is this is an inside joke from an old Post? I looked at is opr and it doesn't quite reflect what you're saying LOL

This thread should answer your question. It's a shame that he retired from the game in 2016. I didn't realize that.

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06-11-2018 , 01:54 AM

#67

TouchOfEVil

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Justin is great, putting this out there:

Last edited by TouchOfEVil; 06-11-2018 at 01:59 AM.

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06-11-2018 , 11:10 AM

#68

SuperSwag

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Still think Fedor is the goat.

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06-11-2018 , 11:57 AM

#69

'-'_@_

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Originally Posted by ihiteveryfish

The "censored" arrow is hilarious, less so if it was set up on purpose.

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06-11-2018 , 12:13 PM

#70

SrslySirius

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That was 100% done on purpose. Still pretty clever though, two birds with one stone. Brightly colored arrows (particularly in yellow) that point to interesting elements (like a WSOP bracelet) are well known to be GTO in YouTube thumbnails. Although this rounded edge unoutlined version seems poor.

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06-11-2018 , 12:35 PM

#71

ihiteveryfish

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Originally Posted by SuperSwag

Still think Fedor is the goat.

Fedor was so pissed about Bonomo in SHRB this year, saying Bonomo slowrolled him on a 7744x board both of them made flush. Fedor got a smaller one and eventually Bonomo called with nut flush. It was kind of painful to watch lol

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06-11-2018 , 12:42 PM

#72

Sam Ganzfried

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Originally Posted by ihiteveryfish

That hand in and of itself signifies the passing of the torch, IMO

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06-11-2018 , 01:50 PM

#73

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Originally Posted by ihiteveryfish

I do understand the variances but his run in last 5 months is quite something.
I am wondering if someone follows his hands history and pick up some of his secrets winning so many tournaments as compared to the past.

Start with the worst hand and win more than normal, start with the best hand and have it hold up more often than normal. Throw in a few timely bluffs and you are the best ever, if ever is 5 months

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06-11-2018 , 02:10 PM

#74

SrslySirius

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Originally Posted by unlucky4me

Throw in a few timely bluffs and you are the best ever, if ever is 5 months

There is an idea called Last Thursdayism that says you can't disprove the theory that the universe popped into existence last Thursday. This is one of those not serious ideas, like Schroedinger's Cat, that just serves to make a point.

But still, maybe the universe was created 5 months ago and Justin Bonomo is the greatest NLH tournament player in its history. This is unfalisifiable and my beliefs are sacred so don't @ me.