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I agree with this, i dont know zigmund plo game but his NL is preety bad. And if

you play NL that bad, i dont think you can crush PLO.

Maybe he was on a upswing and has now breakeven variance, and as such he is loosing ?

Why are you comparing NLH with PLO? They're worlds apart.

07-04-2011 , 07:08 PM

#502

pulhAz0r

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maybe continents, but certainly not worlds.

07-04-2011 , 07:14 PM

#503

David123

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Haid0r

you f*****S could atleas say thank you for me posting over 60 hands and not grinding myself !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hey, just logged on. thanks for the HHs, as always great work

keep it up!

ziggi just needs to refocus and he'll be back winning. too much partying imo.(and lame music videos)

07-04-2011 , 07:32 PM

#504

tobbe

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So Isildur is up 200k this year?
And with the Stars sponsorship he has probably made a million.

07-04-2011 , 07:35 PM

#505

MauvaisOeil

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yeah how much is he up if anyone has made the good maths (CG+SNG+RB)

07-04-2011 , 07:38 PM

#506

hoogoallin

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thnx for the HH Haidor! I can't believe i missed this one

Time to watch the more boring stuff

07-04-2011 , 07:39 PM

#507

RodAbinader

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don't understand why would anyone feel bad for ziggy. the guy is a gambler, who certainly knows the risks and swings of the game and probably can afford this kind of downswing. if not, shame on him.

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07-04-2011 , 07:39 PM

#508

Masq

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He's down in SNG's now.

Isildur1 2,621 $0 $4,153 0% -$1,168

07-04-2011 , 07:40 PM

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Loctus

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What we need is:

Someone who datamined the zig vs isil match to provide the standard deviation in bb/100. Then take a reasonable winrate (5bb/100?), plug it into the simulator and see how many million hands a decent sample size would be lol...

07-04-2011 , 07:42 PM

#510

fiiiish

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPYkNMNw5ew

Last 15 minutes of teh match.

07-04-2011 , 07:47 PM

#511

moki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David123

hey, just logged on. thanks for the HHs, as always great work

keep it up!

ziggi just needs to run better and he'll be back winning. too much partying imo.(and lame music videos)

FYP.

Isildur1 is the one who got it in bad on that huge hand... and he's never ahead of any hand Ziigmund is 5-bet shoving there.

Ziigmund wins that 61/39 pot, as he does a bit less than 2/3rds of the time, and we have a very different result... and he doesn't tilt shove his remaining $50K stack either.

07-04-2011 , 07:50 PM

#512

KansasCT

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pulhAz0r

zigmund was once considered the best plo player in the world, i just can't understand how someone would say something like this.

07-04-2011 , 07:50 PM

#513

Masq

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Loctus

Would 1bb=$100 or $900?

07-04-2011 , 07:56 PM

#514

moki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KansasCT

zigmund was once considered the best plo player in the world, i just can't understand how someone would say something like this.

Ziigmund has monkey tilt issues, it seems. That last hand where he dumped his remaining $50K stack wasn't necessary.

Sucks to be on the wrong end of two huge 60/40 & 40/60 pots.

Last edited by moki; 07-04-2011 at 08:08 PM.

07-04-2011 , 08:00 PM

#515

David123

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Quote:

Originally Posted by moki

true that. but i think that my initial statement holds true, in general

but this specific session couldve gone either way easily.

07-04-2011 , 08:08 PM

#516

moki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Haid0r

112 k pot ! and its over!
isil bustin zigmund!

Poker Stars, $50/$100 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #9909072

Isildur1 (BB): $217,510.80 (2,175.1 bb)
Ilari FIN (SB): $56,294 (562.9 bb)

Preflop:
Ilari FIN raises to $300, Isildur1 raises to $900, Ilari FIN raises to $2,700, Isildur1 calls $1,800

Flop: ($5,400) 3

(2 players)
Isildur1 checks, Ilari FIN bets $5,399.50, Isildur1 raises to $21,598, Ilari FIN raises to $53,594 and is all-in, Isildur1 calls $31,996

Turn: ($112,588) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($112,588) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $112,588 pot ($0.50 rake)
Final Board: 3

Isildur1 showed 8

and won $112,587.50 ($56,293.50 net)
Ilari FIN showed 2

and lost (-$56,294 net)

Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

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pokenum -o 8d 3c 7c 9d - 2d 4d 5h 9h -- 3h 9s 8h
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing 9s 8h 3h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
7c 3c 9d 8d 499 60.85 321 39.15 0 0.00 0.609
4d 2d 9h 5h 321 39.15 499 60.85 0 0.00 0.391

07-04-2011 , 08:14 PM

#517

Folding Soup

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Quote:

Originally Posted by moki

Yeah, but Isildur obv calculated the 50k implied tilt equity in the hand. :P

07-04-2011 , 08:17 PM

#518

RodAbinader

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isi was drunk outta his mind, what a bunch of sickos.

07-04-2011 , 08:18 PM

#519

Loctus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masq

Would 1bb=$100 or $900?

Still $100 obv. I just don't see anyone have much of a edge over someone else in a game like that. My point is that I'm pretty sure that the samplesize required for any sort of measurment is gigantic. Running bad in a couple of 1000bb+ pots would take a while to equalize..

07-04-2011 , 09:52 PM

#520

ben wb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Loctus

Well this simulator only goes up to 10 million hands and it would easily be more than that. The 3x/9x sessions aren't much different than flipping really but still great fun.