I watched some HSPLO on there last week, the rake is uncapped, why would anyone want to play when that is the case. I have never 'grinded' so don't really follow all the capped, unbeatable rake arguements. However, most sites are capped so even large pots its normally a few to 10's of $, HSPLO on GG is 100's-1000's of $. I like the site so far for MTT's, but would never play PLO on there under that set-up.

very easy to play highstakes plo when u have guys like leon on your table... but still pretty ridic to have uncapped rake.

Ah, yes I kind of figured as I was typing that there must be positive $ implication involved. Agreed, crazy policy. Didn't notice if many regular stake PLO tables were running, and only saw the one HS running.

Cyril Mouly? As in https://youtu.be/BtL3J7iCiRk ?

the very same

cyril mouly is out of prison?

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $10/$20 - 3 players
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Nacho124441 (BU): $3,045.41 (152 bb)
Bit2Easy (SB): $2,546.35 (127 bb)
shevliak (BB): $888.25 (44 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($30)
Nacho124441 (BU) raises to $40, Bit2Easy (SB) 3-bets to $140, 1 fold, Nacho124441 (BU) calls $100

Flop: ($300) 3 4 8 (2 players)
Bit2Easy (SB) bets $253.51, Nacho124441 (BU) calls $253.51

Turn: ($807.02) Q (2 players)
Bit2Easy (SB) checks, Nacho124441 (BU) checks

River: ($807.02) 6 (2 players)
Bit2Easy (SB) bets $257.69, Nacho124441 (BU) raises to $2,651.90 (all-in), Bit2Easy (SB) calls $1,895.15 (all-in)

Total pot: $5,112.70 (Rake: $1.75)

Showdown:
Nacho124441 (BU) shows 5 7 (a straight, Four to Eight)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 40%, Flop: 36%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%)

Bit2Easy (SB) shows Q J (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 60%, Flop: 64%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%)

Nacho124441 (BU) wins $5,110.95





PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $10/$20 - 4 players
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vicenfish (UTG): $2,000.00 (100 bb)
UmakeMeSikkk (BU): $3,475.90 (174 bb)
Jayser1337 (SB): $2,176.53 (109 bb)
Nacho124441 (BB): $2,163.25 (108 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($30)
2 players fold, Jayser1337 (SB) raises to $60, Nacho124441 (BB) calls $40

Flop: ($120) T 4 3 (2 players)
Jayser1337 (SB) checks, Nacho124441 (BB) checks

Turn: ($120) 7 (2 players)
Jayser1337 (SB) bets $88.69, Nacho124441 (BB) calls $88.69

River: ($297.38) 7 (2 players)
Jayser1337 (SB) checks, Nacho124441 (BB) bets $443.45, Jayser1337 (SB) raises to $2,027.84 (all-in), Nacho124441 (BB) calls $1,571.11 (all-in)

Total pot: $4,326.50 (Rake: $1.75)

Showdown:
Jayser1337 (SB) shows 9 J (a pair of Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 70%, Flop: 80%, Turn: 16%, River: 0%)

Nacho124441 (BB) shows 7 J (three of a kind, Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 30%, Flop: 20%, Turn: 84%, River: 100%)

Nacho124441 (BB) wins $4,324.75





PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $10/$20 - 5 players
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vicenfish (UTG): $7,997.61 (400 bb)
Stefan11222 (CO): $4,570.14 (229 bb)
Nacho124441 (BU): $3,814.06 (191 bb)
Jayser1337 (SB): $2,000.00 (100 bb)
Nico Durrr (BB): $2,288.06 (114 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($30)
vicenfish (UTG) raises to $50, Stefan11222 (CO) 3-bets to $150, 3 players fold, vicenfish (UTG) 4-bets to $560, Stefan11222 (CO) calls $410

Flop: ($1,150) 5 5 2 (2 players)
vicenfish (UTG) bets $378.51, Stefan11222 (CO) calls $378.51

Turn: ($1,907.02) 2 (2 players)
vicenfish (UTG) bets $952.01, Stefan11222 (CO) calls $952.01

River: ($3,811.04) Q (2 players)
vicenfish (UTG) bets $2,856, Stefan11222 (CO) calls $2,679.62 (all-in)

Total pot: $9,170.28 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
vicenfish (UTG) shows A J (two pair, Fives and Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 32%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 7%, River: 0%)

Stefan11222 (CO) shows Q Q (a full house, Queens full of Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 68%, Flop: 83%, Turn: 93%, River: 100%)

Stefan11222 (CO) wins $9,167.28

That's what I was thinking too. These players are top of the food chain and making this little? Wow. Of course, most of the guys play on multiple sites but these numbers are very sad compared to earlier years.

I just think no one plays HS on stars anymore. I think because of corona this is the best year for online high stakes poker easily in last 5 years maybe more.

Why do you think this is? Doesn't stars have the best security and is the least likely site to run off with everyone's money. I thought these things would be high on the list for most players.

days where stars had the best support or security are behind us

Stars still highest security site, problem is that its actually hard to get a lot of money deposited to the site, and then 20k+ games are locked and stars seem to be reluctant to allow recs into these games.

Thanks. Guess these games won't run in 2020 without recs.

my boifin, whats your opinion on ai assitance or database assitance in your hs games? i mean oborra and co are banned, but still. what hinders other people from trying to do what they did?

do you think atm on ps there are cheaters at hs?

Don't think there's anyone on stars hs using any RTA software. Id guess that theres some sneakers at lower/midstakes esp 500z. Would be quite stupid to start using software at stars hs as player pool so small, so very easy to detect.

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $100/$200 - 2 players
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makeboifin (SB): $22,999.56 (115 bb)
Iimitless (BB): $22,668.07 (113 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($300)
makeboifin (SB) raises to $500, Iimitless (BB) 3-bets to $2,000, makeboifin (SB) 4-bets to $4,800, Iimitless (BB) calls $2,800

Flop: ($9,600) K 2 8 (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) checks, makeboifin (SB) bets $2,399.25, Iimitless (BB) calls $2,399.25

Turn: ($14,398.50) T (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) checks, makeboifin (SB) bets $5,198, Iimitless (BB) calls $5,198

River: ($24,794.50) Q (2 players)
Iimitless (BB) checks, makeboifin (SB) bets $10,602.31 (all-in), Iimitless (BB) calls $10,270.82 (all-in)

Total pot: $45,336.14 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
makeboifin (SB) shows 7 A (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 29%, Flop: 0%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

Iimitless (BB) shows 8 8 (three of a kind, Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 71%, Flop: 100%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

Iimitless (BB) wins $45,333.14





PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $100/$200 - 2 players
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Iimitless (SB): $22,065.85 (110 bb)
makeboifin (BB): $26,302.71 (132 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($300)
Iimitless (SB) raises to $500, makeboifin (BB) 3-bets to $2,000, Iimitless (SB) calls $1,500

Flop: ($4,000) A K 2 (2 players)
makeboifin (BB) checks, Iimitless (SB) bets $1,718.71, makeboifin (BB) calls $1,718.71

Turn: ($7,437.42) 8 (2 players)
makeboifin (BB) checks, Iimitless (SB) bets $4,643.68, makeboifin (BB) calls $4,643.68

River: ($16,724.78) 2 (2 players)
makeboifin (BB) checks, Iimitless (SB) bets $13,703.46 (all-in), makeboifin (BB) calls $13,703.46

Total pot: $44,131.70 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
Iimitless (SB) shows A 2 (a full house, Twos full of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 60%, Flop: 91%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

makeboifin (BB) shows 9 K (two pair, Kings and Twos)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 40%, Flop: 9%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

Iimitless (SB) wins $44,128.70

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $100/$200 - 2 players
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Iimitless (SB): $54,333.49 (272 bb)
makeboifin (BB): $20,000.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($300)
Iimitless (SB) raises to $500, makeboifin (BB) 3-bets to $2,000, Iimitless (SB) calls $1,500

Flop: ($4,000) 5 5 6 (2 players)
makeboifin (BB) bets $1,998.50, Iimitless (SB) calls $1,998.50

Turn: ($7,997) 9 (2 players)
makeboifin (BB) checks, Iimitless (SB) bets $2,662, makeboifin (BB) calls $2,662

River: ($13,321) Q (2 players)
makeboifin (BB) checks, Iimitless (SB) bets $14,060, makeboifin (BB) calls $13,339.50 (all-in)

Total pot: $40,000 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
Iimitless (SB) shows A 5 (three of a kind, Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 31%, Flop: 99%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

makeboifin (BB) shows Q A (two pair, Queens and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 69%, Flop: 1%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

Iimitless (SB) wins $39,997





PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $100/$200 - 2 players
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Iimitless (SB): $24,351.82 (122 bb)
makeboifin (BB): $27,406.06 (137 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($300)
Iimitless (SB) raises to $500, makeboifin (BB) 3-bets to $2,000, Iimitless (SB) calls $1,500

Flop: ($4,000) 9 6 4 (2 players)
makeboifin (BB) bets $3,038, Iimitless (SB) calls $3,038

Turn: ($10,076) K (2 players)
makeboifin (BB) bets $5,036.50, Iimitless (SB) raises to $19,313.82 (all-in), makeboifin (BB) calls $14,277.32

First River: ($48,703.64) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Second River: ($48,703.64) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $48,703.64 (Rake: $3)

First Showdown: Board: 9 6 4 K Q

Iimitless (SB) shows A Q (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 60%, Flop: 43%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

makeboifin (BB) shows K 5 (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 40%, Flop: 57%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

makeboifin (BB) wins $24,350.32

Second Showdown: Board: 9 6 4 K Q

Iimitless (SB) shows A Q (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 60%, Flop: 43%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

makeboifin (BB) shows K 5 (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 40%, Flop: 57%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

makeboifin (BB) wins $24,350.32

Those ytd #s are what good 2/4 regs were making in 2010

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $50/$100 - 6 players
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niabios (UTG): $4,000.00 (40 bb)
antoha1998 (MP): $5,847.03 (58 bb)
limmouse (CO): $10,834.87 (108 bb)
Harleyy30040 (BU): $6,751.24 (68 bb)
pokerkluka (SB): $10,250.00 (103 bb)
GlitchSystem (BB): $10,667.25 (107 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
4 players fold, pokerkluka (SB) raises to $300, GlitchSystem (BB) 3-bets to $900, pokerkluka (SB) 4-bets to $2,350, GlitchSystem (BB) calls $1,450

Flop: ($4,700) 7 7 8 (2 players)
pokerkluka (SB) checks, GlitchSystem (BB) bets $1,173.75, pokerkluka (SB) calls $1,173.75

Turn: ($7,047.50) A (2 players)
pokerkluka (SB) bets $1,478.93, GlitchSystem (BB) calls $1,478.93

River: ($10,005.36) 6 (2 players)
pokerkluka (SB) bets $2,500.09, GlitchSystem (BB) calls $2,500.09

Total pot: $15,005.54 (Rake: $5)

Showdown:
pokerkluka (SB) shows T J (a pair of Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 39%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%)

GlitchSystem (BB) shows 4 A (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 61%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%)

GlitchSystem (BB) wins $15,000.54

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $50/$100 - 6 players
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niabios (UTG): $2,689.15 (27 bb)
antoha1998 (MP): $4,497.80 (45 bb)
limmouse (CO): $8,238.89 (82 bb)
Harleyy30040 (BU): $11,694.30 (117 bb)
pokerkluka (SB): $11,455.85 (115 bb)
GlitchSystem (BB): $29,942.47 (299 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($150)
4 players fold, pokerkluka (SB) calls $50, GlitchSystem (BB) checks

Flop: ($200) 2 4 7 (2 players)
pokerkluka (SB) bets $100, GlitchSystem (BB) raises to $400, pokerkluka (SB) calls $300

Turn: ($1,000) T (2 players)
pokerkluka (SB) checks, GlitchSystem (BB) bets $1,500, pokerkluka (SB) calls $1,500

River: ($4,000) 8 (2 players)
pokerkluka (SB) checks, GlitchSystem (BB) bets $3,000, pokerkluka (SB) raises to $9,455.85 (all-in), GlitchSystem (BB) folds

Total pot: $10,000 (Rake: $5)
pokerkluka (SB) wins $9,995

200/400/800 PLO @GG. Leon with the occasional 1600

limitless posted a picture of having 300k stack in those games yesterday, and that he paid 40k rake after 5 hours sesh lol

Incredible that a site with UNCAPPED RAKE has the most HS traffic. Absolutely bizzare.

When everyone has a different affiliate giving them a different amount of rakeback you never really know how much each person is getting back from the insane amounts of rake paid.

When the 25k daily tournies were running I heard some incredibly high rakeback% numbers being offered by exclusive/highstakes affiliates that was shared on twitter.


I imagine the guys who play high stakes on GG a lot are close friends with people with power and/or sway within GG to get the best deals possible

were HS games on GG only played at plo?