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06-04-2012 , 12:31 AM
lol he "intended to favorite it"

so gutless
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06-04-2012 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by noseeds99
lol he "intended to favorite it"

so gutless
Seriously. It's pretty lol that a guy who admits he doesn't understand how twitter actually works is in charge of the WSOP official twitter account.
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06-04-2012 , 02:46 AM
Seth did not intend to favorite it. He intended to retweet it, was challenged on the issue, and insisted that it stay up. Somebody changed his mind, he is using this excuse. This is not a theory.
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06-04-2012 , 02:50 AM
What a tool Palansky is.
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06-04-2012 , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by R*R
I know major US networks forced some changes on the NHL for example.
The Effel QJ interview almost makes it seem that ESPN is forcing the WSOP hand.

Also it seems they may be waivng this so called ruel for now but they may enforce it if ESPN tells them to. So who really knows wtf is going to happen. This should be clear before you pay your entry fee. Effel was really sketchy about this issue and it seems that ESPN will decide not him.

"the rule is in place, it is there if we need it" oh great bs disgression.
R*R:

I wonder if part of the problem is unrealistic expectations? I'm not sure exactly what Harrah's, (excuse me Caesar's Entertainment), was thinking when they bought the WSOP franchise from the Binion family. I suspect what they were thinking was that they could elevate poker (and the WSOP) into the same lofty stratosphere as golf and other professional sports. However, considering the general nature of poker, the boorish behavior of [some] "professional" poker players, and Caesar's apparent inability or unwillingness to crack down on deplorable behavior; I'm not sure if the general public (and major advertisers) will ever accept and embrace poker to the same extent that the general public accepts and embraces other sports - like golf.

As long as Caesar's fails to adopt a consistent set of rules - applied evenly to all poker players both amateur and professional alike - they'll continue to stumble from one disaster to the next. Maybe what David Bonderman and Texas Pacific Group should have done with the WSOP was hire somebody to run it that players universally respect - somebody like say Jack Binion or someone of his stature who actually understands the game.

Last edited by Alan C. Lawhon; 06-04-2012 at 08:47 AM. Reason: Minor edit.
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06-04-2012 , 08:55 AM
From Nolan's Final Report:

Among the more notable names that finished in the top 20 were -- Tommy Vedes (4th), Daniel Negreanu (5th), Thom
Werthman (10th), Steve Brecher (12th), Nam Le (16th), and John Juanda (18th).
No mention of Jon, so he isn't even "more notable".
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06-04-2012 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by plo ufo
the people saying they like the rule are people who dont play much or have never been in a position where they are playing for that much money up top. obv a bunch of dog-track tournament players dont care about this when theres only $800 up top.

the ppl saying Jon's a bitch and to man up etc are probably complete dolts imo. former hs drop outs or just unintelligent
excellent logical debating skills itt. lol ffs.
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06-04-2012 , 09:05 AM
So I retweet stories/comments from Aguiar's account about the incident (esp the one where he says that the @wsop acct banned him and can't handle the truth like Annie Duke) and *I* get banned as well.

If the @wsopprguy twitter account bans me, I don't care - I have no use for it, anyways.

But now I have to log out of my twitter account just to view the @WSOP tweets, which are semi-important considering the information it has.

The WSOP has taken 2-3 steps back this year. Granted when I am there next week, I'll be excited to play and just be focused on the poker, but this is just ridiculious.

The WSOP, Palansky, and really America, needs to get the sand out of their vagina.
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06-04-2012 , 11:40 AM
why would they make this rule when they have floormen who host the FT's, and announce every action. i guess some are better than others in covering every play. further, if this rule was adopted for the sake of the livestream, then they should have the floorman's announcing directly mixed in with the audio portion of the stream. and then for streams with no live commentating, they could plan ahead and use the better announcing floormen.
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06-04-2012 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MaverickUSC
Seth did not intend to favorite it. He intended to retweet it, was challenged on the issue, and insisted that it stay up. Somebody changed his mind, he is using this excuse. This is not a theory.
Yep, there is no way he doesn't understand what the difference between a favorite and a RT. Everyone makes mistakes, but just own up to it and move on. If he deleted the RT promptly and apologized to Aguiar this would have died down.
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06-04-2012 , 01:20 PM
No one has said Jon's not a b***** in 13 pages?
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06-04-2012 , 02:02 PM
Final rankings:

Most Offensive - retweet by the WSOP

2nd most offensive - Aguiar coming out looking like a whiny little B (only SLIGHTLY behind the re-tweet)

Least offensive - The horrible final table rule (can't stress how bad of a rule I think it is but re-tweet and Aguiar come out looking worse)
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06-04-2012 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by plo ufo
the ppl saying Jon's a bitch and to man up etc are probably complete dolts imo. former hs drop outs or just unintelligent
I realize this is veering a little off-course, but the phrase "former hs dropout" is tilting me. It's redundant. A former high school dropout would be someone who had once dropped out, but later went back to finish.

As a non-dropout, you should know better. :-D
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06-04-2012 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by John Wray
I realize this is veering a little off-course, but the phrase "former hs dropout" is tilting me. It's redundant. A former high school dropout would be someone who had once dropped out, but later went back to finish.

As a non-dropout, you should know better. :-D
As a current HS dropout, I knew this!
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06-04-2012 , 08:43 PM
Seth Palansky ‏@WSOPRGUY
Going forward the @WSOP account will be managed by @WhoJedi and @jesswelman.
Retweeted by WSOP



^ not satisfied if this is the only action taken vrs him
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06-04-2012 , 08:47 PM
Seems like plenty to me

You really wanted him fired? C'mon man
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06-04-2012 , 08:49 PM
Hi John aguiar,

You are an excellent player.
I agree with a lot of things you tweet and say.
However, that does not mean you don't come off as douchey and whinny overall.
One time you came to Foxwoods and played megastack..sitting at a tsble behind you..u just would not stfu about them potentially canceling the guarantee during what I recall was a brutal winter storm etc.
I just kept praying you'd stfu.
All this being said I understand why you are frustrated but you can chose to sit out the wsop ?
Oh no wait you don't do that because it's profitable?
Seems like you are just all about doing what's right kid?
Like not canceling a guarantee obviously due to weather. Thats also profitable yeah?
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06-04-2012 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCanoe
Seems like plenty to me

You really wanted him fired? C'mon man
I think he deserves to be fired and I would prefer somebody player friendly to be in his position.

I once got fired from my pizza delivery job for calling a customer a Bitch. I think his position should be held to a little bit higher of a standard than me in my pizza delivery days. just sayin
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06-04-2012 , 09:47 PM
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06-04-2012 , 10:06 PM
I hope he got a decent pay cut atleast.

because if not he just got rewarded for failure.


Oh nos I have less responsibility now? I have do to less and get paid the same.

I really messed up
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06-04-2012 , 10:15 PM
How much different would this be if the bitch comment was directed toward a female player?
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06-04-2012 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by spacegod
How much different would this be if the bitch comment was directed toward a female player?
"A bitch is a bitch"
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06-04-2012 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PardoG
Hi John aguiar,

You are an excellent player.
I agree with a lot of things you tweet and say.
However, that does not mean you don't come off as douchey and whinny overall.
One time you came to Foxwoods and played megastack..sitting at a tsble behind you..u just would not stfu about them potentially canceling the guarantee during what I recall was a brutal winter storm etc.
I just kept praying you'd stfu.
All this being said I understand why you are frustrated but you can chose to sit out the wsop ?
Oh no wait you don't do that because it's profitable?
Seems like you are just all about doing what's right kid?
Like not canceling a guarantee obviously due to weather. Thats also profitable yeah?
Foxwoods attempting to cancel that guarantee was a disgrace and downright illegal. It's a guarantee. It's only because people like Jon had the guts to challenge them that they didn't cancel it.
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06-04-2012 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by spacegod
How much different would this be if the bitch comment was directed toward a female player?
Judging from the speed at which they removed the comment, probably not much... just additional outrage.
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06-04-2012 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCanoe
Seems like plenty to me

You really wanted him fired? C'mon man
Yes.

From his LinkedIn page, presumably written by him "Public Relations practitioner handling Sports & Entertainment events for Caesars Entertainment and Caesars Interactive Entertainment (CIE) in Las Vegas. Oversight of the world's largest gaming event, the World Series of Poker."

He clearly doesn't get "Public Relations" and any higher up that isn't thinking about demoting him/firing him is just as bad at their job as he is at PRing. I feel like this is PR 101, "don't call your clients/customers bitches, directly or indirectly in a public forum."
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