it completely baffles me how many people are calling this rule "completely stupid."

God forbid at a final table with 100s of 1000s of $ on the line, we have people clearly stating "check" instead of tapping a pinky or "raise" when moving chips all over the place near the front of their cards.

i mean, i understand if you disagree or think it goes too far or whatever, but it's not like they're forcing people to say, "i would like to bet 410,000 chips please." OMG!!! 1 syllablez is too much!

forcing it upon the players is pretty iffy, but calling it completely stupid is ridiculous IMO.

edit: disagree for implementing this at featured tables but final tables seems reasonable. seriously though, wtf with people thinking everyone is gonna get sick tells by someone saying "raise."

it is scandalous that they force the players to actually speak at a live-pokertable.

It's more of them saying 'You buy in, you pay us a fee, we change things to aid the broadcast of the event while hindering the actual event.'

If I had as many skeletons in my closet as Jon Aguiar does, I wouldn't be so quick to make such powerful enemies

This, plus calling you a bitch when you complain.

the best part of this is that the retweet the WSOP twitter account made LOL

I think the tweet was about being an attention whore.

You accomplished that well.

It's clearly a poor rule, but Aguiar does perpetually come across as a 'whiny bitch'.

So if this rule gives away tells shouldn't that give someone an advantage. I mean this rule can't be bad for everyone. It wouldn't bother me to announce my action.
I watched the live feed and it seemed to bother Bryan Pellegrino more than John initially. Bryan was bleeding chips and maybe had 10bb left and I could see his frustration. Then when the players started talking to floor John seemed to take over the agrument. Quickly after that John started bleeding chips and finished third. He let it affect his game and helped Bryan regroup.
I don't agree with the rule but John could of used it to his advantage and complained later.

Will be (mildly) interesting to see if DN addresses the non-enforcement of this rule until after he leaves - if that is true - and the rule itself, as vigorously as he last year went on about the non talking about your hand rule (I think it was).

Seems like a gross violation of the Americans w Disabilities Act. What happens if someone who is deaf, mute, or has some other form of physical handicap that doesn't allow them to speak/speak clearly makes a FT?

I agree with pretty much everyone else - having a rule that forces players to change their style of play at the FT is ludicrous. There are several other good options that have been mentioned (mic the dealer is the best, I think) that would improve the audience understanding of the action and leave the players alone.

Retweet was also ridiculous, and I unfolllowed @WSOP as a result.

TBH I didn't know the WSOP treated players this badly. What a shame. I hope something drastic happens to turn this around, because a mass boycott to force their hand just seems highly unlikely to happen, and as we saw with FTP, if a company has no reason to change their ****ty customer service, they just don't do it.

I think plenty of people agree With the original tweet, and coming from a random its nbd

When the WSOP account retweets it, it becomes one of the most ridiculous corporate social media fails possible

I have no idea how that retweet is still up, it is such a bad PR move... wtf is a franchise as big as WSOP doing? Very unprofessional, kind of sad actually they have no idea the ramifications of having that retweet of calling Aguiar a bitch.

i guess I'm in the minority, but I like the rule, wish they would have it all the time. I 100% verbalize all my actions except maybe for a decline of raise on BB, because I've been burnt with strange calls misinterpreting my action.

BUT, just requiring dealers to verbalize the action (which a good dealer does anyway) would seem a simpler way to solve things, no?

I don't know, based on the three posts I have seen from you I'd wager that your IQ is borderline ******ed.

It's also pretty standard for people who insist on calling people "whiny bitches" and think they should do something "like a man" don't have the intellect to do anything other than by force.

So I'm with the other guy, I'm glad I'm not you.

The people who are screaming that Benny Binion is turning over in his grave over this should realize that Benny's rest has been uneasy for quite some time. Remember when Paul Phillips and Richard Tatalovich got barred from Binions (when it was run by the Behnens) for talking to the LV Review-Journal about the juice on the WSOP entry fees?

Compared to that, Seth Palansky's nasty retweet is small potatoes, but it still ought to be a firing offence.

Rule is obv terrible.

Re-tweet is completely inappropriate and out of line.

That being said, is it just me, or does Jon Aguiar come across as being a super annoying little dick.

Haven't read through the whole thread but I can't be the only one that agrees that rule sucks...and the re-tweet by WSOP was even worse..yet Aguiar STILL comes across as total little ****-bag??

^ This.

Honestly I don't give two s**** about the rule, or about how Aguiar and Daniels choose to voice their opinion.

But the WSOP publicly embarrassed a player, and that's not acceptable behavior for a company/brand that represents the game of poker to most of the world. The identity of the player is irrelevant; the validity of the tweet is irrelevant. By proxy, the WSOP called a player a b**** and that's intolerable. Aguiar (and ALL players) deserve much better treatment from their hosts.

If you called a player a b**** in front of the other nine people at your table, the WSOP would penalize you for poor sportsmanlike conduct, as they're trying to create an environment where casual players and pros alike feel safe to compete in the game they love. But apparently it's okay for the WSOP to call a player a b**** in front of the entire world. Many of their Twitter followers are casual players - how does this make them feel about attending the Series? Are they more or less likely to participate when they know they might be publicly insulted by the company hosting the event?

If the WSOP called me a b**** to 72k people, heads would roll.

Aguiar Tweet:

"@NickJivkov thanks Nick, enjoy the bracelet, I'm sorry that all this crap ever had to be a part of such a memorable experience"

Completely disingenuous IMO. He's loving all this attention. Not to mention the fact it gives him an excuse to get on his soap box.

Let others fight the good fight and zip ur whiny little pie-whole already.

This rule, and wsop as a whole, is a ****ing fail.

Playing some 20+ events over the last 3 years let it be known i will not miss giving insane fees to these pigs this summer.

Further for those of you who find your self in the fortunate position of being at a FT but have to face this Bull**** rule i would suggest...

WHISPER YOUR ACTIONS, OR EVEN just mouth them, when they ask you to speak up, raise your volume about 0.5%, rinse and repete.

#FUWSOP

are you allowed to make your action first and then verbalize what you just did, or are you supposed to always verbalize first? its dumb either way, but if its the latter that would bother me a lot more.

Jon did seem kinda whiny to me when i watched the livestream.
I realize the rule is annoying and Primo joined Jon in making fun of it, but in combination with him demanding a toilettebreak in midgame and saying "you cant tell me you wouldnt wait if phil helmuth wanted a break right now" shows he was looking for drama.

No one is asking you to check up on his tweets, try ignoring him.

Man, some of these people are MAD.

the people saying they like the rule are people who dont play much or have never been in a position where they are playing for that much money up top. obv a bunch of dog-track tournament players dont care about this when theres only $800 up top.

the ppl saying Jon's a bitch and to man up etc are probably complete dolts imo. former hs drop outs or just unintelligent