There are 2 facts that come out of this: The rule is indeed stupid and Jon Aguiar is a whiny brat.

Go look at Jon's tweets and posts on this forum, he blows every little thing out of proportion. Not just this incident.

[QUOTE=jh1711;33091942]The WSOP approved signs for communicating the required verbal statement will be announced tomorrow, but a delicious inside sauce send them to me early.

Classic I feel the same way although currently I can't play in WSOP because of Bananas.

Caesars Interactive Entertainment, which includes the WSOP brand, was sold to Cleveland Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert a couple of months ago http://www.lvrj.com/business/caesars...145966785.html. 50% then, with the option to buy more. Seth Palansky @WSOPRGUY days are numbered as a new WSOP regime, after the deal, is finalized. Who knows, the WSOP could be held at the Cleveland Horseshoe next year.

I am not familiar with his tweets, this rule merits a blowup. I mean they have to do what is best for TV, right. The same way Benny Binion use to give players good food and top shelf liquor because it was good for TV. If I was Binion's grandson I would go p**s on the final table and when I get asked why I did that " it will respond it is good for TV."

Aguiar tells QuadJacks retweet is, "One of the most disgusting failures in the history of social media for a major company."

this is the dumbest rule ever ainec

You're thinking of the Main Event broadcast b/c that was produced by ESPN. The side events were essentially the same as this year...but at least they added commentary for some.

wheres chainsaw when we need him

The rule is ridiculous no doubt, but Jon does seem to be a drama queen. He is crying on twitter about telling his parents he was slandered. Did the retweet happen before or after he was tweeting about a specific wsop employee being a dickhead. Neither situation is slander, but he seems to never see anything he does as classless. I would like to think there was a better way to handle the situation on both sides. I'd be shocked if this rule stands.

Biggest problem is IMO that the rule wasn't publicized well enough from the start. I was well aware of the "you can talk about your hand rule" (I call it the Daniel Negreanu rule). I did not read about this "you have to verbalize every action" rule anywhere. I imagine many of the players did not know about it either until they managed to get to the final table. Whatever you thinks about live-tells, forcing somebody change your behavior at such a high pressure moment is just wrong.

And to those who think that the rule does not make any difference and also to those who think they could ridicule the rule and the tournament director (who could issue a penalty that would literally cost you thousands of dollars). Take a look at the payouts - any event doesn't matter which - then think again.

It would be similar to the NHL telling it's players that for game 7 of the Stanley Cup they will have to play without their helmets so the fans can more easily identify who they are.

Silence is the poker players shield that they used the whole way to get to the final table. How can they change the rules at the final table and say their protection is no longer legal.

ooo he is there.


I was watching a few mins of what quadjacks is doing down today.

Marko was in the middle of another uncomfortable interview when our hero Chainsaw walked by and tried to karate chop the table in half.

His attemps to save William Reynolds were futile and he walked off in shame. but his presence was felt.

Aside from the fact that forcing them to announce their move is dumb, it wouldn't even be picked up by the mic. It's at times barely audible when the TD on the mic announces it.

WSOP should fire their idiots and hire more people like Jon Aguiar.

To be clear this was my tweet retweeted by wsop, I 100% agree with the rule bein terrible and that's not even what the tweet was about,

The tweet was about jon doing nothing but crying all day since the first day of WSOP thinking he is some super special person when really your just another online kid who isn't anybody, your time has passed just play poker and stop crying your the most whiny 5year old girl ever

Bitches gonna bitch tho

I'm glad I'm not you.

This is a perfect example of why private equity investors like Texas Pacific Group and David Bonderman, (the hedge fund that owns Caesar’s Entertainment), are so despised and hated. (You can add Mitt Romney and Bain Capital to that group.) These geniuses hire MBA’s and Harvard professors to take something great (the WSOP) and totally ruin it. Mr. Bonderman gives his marching orders to Mr. Loveman: “I’m paying you $5 million [or whatever he’s paying Mr. Loveman] to do a job. I don’t care how you do it, and I don’t care who does or doesn’t like it. Just maximize profits!!” Mr. Loveman salutes and says “Yes sir, boss!” and then turns around and repeats those orders to Seth Palansky and Jack Effel. It’s all downhill from there.

If you want to take a really great brand and a really great franchise and totally screw it up, just put an MBA in charge of it. Even if I could afford to play in the WSOP, I wouldn’t have anything to do with it. As long as players willingly put up with this kind of shabby treatment - where “super star” players are treated one way while all others are treated like second class citizens - these moronic “rules” are what they can expect. The object here is not to “promote and grow poker” as Mr. Palansky (or whoever) stated in that sarcastic tweet. The object is to make money for Mr. Bonderman and TPG. As far as Mr. Bonderman and Mr. Loveman are concerned, poker players come in a distant second to the folks who really matter: Their shareholders and the folks they owe $20 billion. In their world, he who has the gold makes the rules.

For all the players who still flock to Las Vegas every year to play in the WSOP – and still think the WSOP is the greatest thing since sliced bread – you might as well bend over and drop your pants.

What else - he/she has to state his or her action using sign language!

Me too I love my life way to much.

Just keepin it real

It's a well known fact that people who have to state that they are too busy "loving life" and things like that are literally ******ed. I actually think I somewhat agree that Jon might have taken it a bit too far, but at the same time agree with basically everything I've seen him say. So yeah.

I agree as well, but tweeting it 8 times a day isn't the way to go about Fixin it

And ya I like life so I am 100% ******ed lol

its usually the dealer who announced the raise size. Why not mic them for this purpose. you should never force players to play a certain way, speaking is a tool of poker(or being silent).

Terrible rule, probably non poker playing people who made the rule.

This rule is beyond ridiculous.

For the stream, there is a commentator, an announcer with a mic at the table, & the dealer announces all the actions. We don't need the players to say anything.

I was watching last night as the TD threatened to bag up the chips if the players didn't follow this rule.

Completely ridiculous.

+1

How does that dude have any money? He's a losing player in online tournaments according to OPR. OBV a losing player in live tournaments since he's never won anything.

Boggles my mind how these dudes stay in action.

this is more interesting to read when you take into account the former CFO of Caesars, Jonathan Halkyard, jumped ship to become CFO of NV Energy a few days ago. It seems like it was an unplanned departure soooooo ya. Halkyard was the genius who "managed" their massive debts, most notably during 07/08 when he negotiated large debt reductions/etc.

As for the rule, it's a stupid rule. I've played the series every year for the last 6 years or w/e, for probably 100+ tourneys and I can't believe some of the stuff they try to pull for their own benefit, without thinking of what it does to players.