I hope you get well soon.

there are new owners now. your reputable account doesn't work. we as poker players should be allowed to express ourselves in regard to things such as 'rake'.

the fbi has infiltrated this site.

no one argues this.

we just want to be able to say

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"No one cares, no one cares.
No one cares, no one cares.
No one cares, no one cares."

Kenneth, what is the frequency?

No one cares, no one cares.

atrocious postious

All I see is hunter2

i think we should talk about lower raked poker.

When I first came up with the concept called Ideal Poker it was necessary to create a term/definition to illuminate a point.

Around that time Dnegs tried to convince the players that higher rake was better than lower rake. One of the BS stories he told on Joey’s cast was one where the juicy games were the higher rake games. Obviously you would have to be a psychopath narcissist to believe that the higher rake fueled the profitability of the games.

This is where I think language matters.

I called this concept ‘effective rake’. Not really stopping to know whether or not there is already a term for it or whether effective rake means something else to players. But the concept is simple.

At two different games where rake is exactly the same you might be more profitable at one game than the other. This speaks to the concept of EFFECTIVE rake.

Since Ideal Poker is an extension of Ideal Money, it was natural then through synthesis to understand that effective rake is a hidden metric, that depending on how the poker ‘ecosystem’ was setup could someday be illuminated such that the players could use it to judge and evaluate the “quality” of the chips a a site offers.

Today players rightfully protest unfavorable changes to the game but I think that as customers they would be able to coalesce game theoretically if there was such a metric to agree.

Does everyone here know the story of Niman Kenkre: https://www.pokertube.com/article/ni...s-poker-player

No one believed him. We need players like Niman Kenkre.

Creativity. The industry used to be full of talented minds. They left with the effective rake. And that is the nature of poker.

How to tell scam.

There is the internet truth and there is nature. We should define our reality as that which is nature. Lets say we do...

Recently over the years the advent of bitcoin, {something people call} blockchain technology, and {perhaps} some new form of digital money alternatives have created {perhaps} the advancement of new poker site technologies.

We are poker players so we don't know which if any of those things happened or are real (hence the curly braced considerations). So how can we evaluate the nature of projects and proposals?

The internet will tell you that virtue poker is a reputable blockchain venture and the internet will also suggest this is doubly so because Phil Ivey endorses:

https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...nt-Round-of-5m



Some people think discerning truth is hard. It's not; thats a lie. Its gaslighting. Truth is easy. Virtue poker is a lie. There is no such use of blockchain technology and part of the reason we know its a lie is because it has phil ivey's face on it. Now keep something in mind, on the internet what i Just said is BULLSHIT. On the internet if phil ivey endorses something that means its secure. But we define our reality in regard to nature.

As poker players I will explain to you what you need to understand about the word blockchain. First we understand what it is not so we can spot scams:

https://www.ibm.com/topics/blockchain

Ibm is selling a lie here. Ibm sells what they call blockchain solutions and they define them as immutable. Blockchains are NOT inherently immutable. Anyone speaking as though they are, is a gaslighting scammer.

Bitcoin is a proposed {blockchain} implementation that is CONJECTURED (it can't be proved!) to be secure and immutable. It may or may not be secure/immutable but regardless a blockchain does not imply security or immutability.

The phrase blockchain afaik comes from Satoshi and bitcoin but the concept is older and simple and this is what the mods here need to understand when vetting proposals:



the 'chain' that bitcoin creates and leaves a trail of is simply groupings or sets of transactions which are combined via a mathematical function in which the output is stored in the next block.:

Its important to understand this is what the word blockchain means to see how silly it would be to imply that this would be something inherently secure or immutable. EVERY BLOCK OF DATA IS CRYPTOGRAPHICALY VERFIABLY LINKED TO THE VERY FIRST BLOCK OF DATA {GENESIS} BUT THIS SAYS NOTHING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE SYSTEM IS IMMUTABLE OR SECURE!!!

If someone or a project speaks about 'blockchain' as if it provides security to their projects then you know its a scam.

Hi JB, get help.

Sincerely,
everyone on twoplustwo

No we have to pay attention to this for a moment now.

BFI isn't the right place and I just get my posts deleted anyways if its not crypto.
This guy wants to put up 1k, or 5k if i get the backing, that I can't convince 4 of 7 judges we mutually choose that I am the expert on John Nash's Ideal Money. He's calling me out and calling me chicken.

Other names, sklansky/mason, dunno if they are around or that makes sense. Bobo Fett was agreed on.

Raidalot was agree upon, tried to look for others from this thread Ideal Poker which is an esoteric key to Ideal Money
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...*****-1353102/

Its a volunteer type thing, there is game theory that the winner can pay the judges. I shouldn't be very energy intensive.

I dunno if i broke a rule posting this, I'm being called out, and I'm absolutely willing take the bet.

Why exactly are you posting this in the NVG moderation thread?

Probably for the same reason why he thinks he's the "expert" on "Ideal Money" and naming random people that hardly have any reason to care about this as neutral arbitrators is an effective way to proceed.

Its the most public place here and where most of the named seem to all post.

I don't know why you would think you know who the expert on the subject is. Lets find an escrow. Someone ask Timex.

This thread has a very specific purpose, and you posting your business here unrelated to moderation issues is highly inappropriate. Don't be too shocked if the posts on the subject are deleted from this thread in the very near future.

My question was mostly rhetorical. Please limit this thread to questions about NVG modding.

Looks like Jbouton didn’t get fully-rested from his last 3-day vacation lol.

jbouton unsuccessfully tried to throw in Nash's Ideal Money into the Ukraine vs Russia debate.


Candybar responded that jbouton is clueless about Ideal Money and that's when jbouton blew a fuse mentally.


If someone can stake jbouton $5k here he much appreciates it so he can engage in a debate with Candybar about Ideal Money.

Was it surprising to you that it didn't work out?

Does all this “furr” your eyebrows, jbouton?

Also, is this a safe thread for us to mock jbouton's attempts at "Ideal" blah blah or is that against the rules? Asking for a friend.

Giver