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Jay "Whojedi" Newnum Caught Stealing from Foxwoods Jay "Whojedi" Newnum Caught Stealing from Foxwoods

01-09-2014 , 06:02 PM
Sharon Fish, a dealer from Foxwoods posted this on her twitter feed @fishgirl54


"As a dealer from Foxwoods, I can confirm that this is true. Pulled the money out of toke box with chopsticks!"

I don't think there is any doubt anymore on whether this is true or not.

Again, my question would be - what the heck is this guy thinking for $700???
Surely he seemed to have enough friends in the poker community that he would have been able to borrow $700 very easily.
01-09-2014 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PSUMike1999
Sharon Fish, a dealer from Foxwoods posted this on her twitter feed @fishgirl54


"As a dealer from Foxwoods, I can confirm that this is true. Pulled the money out of toke box with chopsticks!"

I don't think there is any doubt anymore on whether this is true or not.

Again, my question would be - what the heck is this guy thinking for $700???
Surely he seemed to have enough friends in the poker community that he would have been able to borrow $700 very easily.
Very low chance that this was his first instance of stealing, and he was just unlucky enough to get caught.
01-09-2014 , 06:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PSUMike1999
Sharon Fish, a dealer from Foxwoods posted this on her twitter feed @fishgirl54


"As a dealer from Foxwoods, I can confirm that this is true. Pulled the money out of toke box with chopsticks!"

I don't think there is any doubt anymore on whether this is true or not.

Again, my question would be - what the heck is this guy thinking for $700???
Surely he seemed to have enough friends in the poker community that he would have been able to borrow $700 very easily.
As has been stated before, he likely had either done it before, had intentions to continue to do it, or just really badly needed the money and wasn't thinking
01-09-2014 , 06:17 PM
Kilowatts is more then likely right here it's not the fist time, especially considering him having this chopstick device. Shame a guy threw away so much for so little. The community obviously loved him.
01-09-2014 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kilowatt
Very low chance that this was his first instance of stealing, and he was just unlucky enough to get caught.
Yeah, probably right.
01-09-2014 , 06:26 PM
He may been able to get money if he had asked but felt shame and embarrassment about not having the money that others seem to have and didn't want to look desperate.
pride and money makes people do some strange things.
01-09-2014 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by xalas
He may been able to get money if he had asked but felt shame and embarrassment about not having the money that others seem to have and didn't want to look desperate.
pride and money makes people do some strange things.
Right but using a chopstick device to pull money out of a toke box in an environment with cameras everywhere?????? Sounds less like desperation and more like a planned and calculated plan of theft.
01-09-2014 , 06:43 PM
So sad to see a person crossover to the "dark side".
01-09-2014 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Kilowatt
Very low chance that this was his first instance of stealing, and he was just unlucky enough to get caught.
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Originally Posted by PSUMike1999
Right but using a chopstick device to pull money out of a toke box in an environment with cameras everywhere?????? Sounds less like desperation and more like a planned and calculated plan of theft.
Ah, good... someone said this. Both here and in the Facebook post, people keep saying some variation of "why would he do this for just $700?" But it's altogether possible (and likely, in my opinion) that this is one of multiple attempts of this kind

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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
Lol at people ITT though, "I worked in poker media like Jay therefore he is an awesome dude".
Hmmm, I haven't gotten this sense at all. If anything, it has been more of a "I work in poker media. Thus, I know Jay. Jay is an awesome dude" tone. No causal relationship involved.

More accurately, however, it should have been: "I work in poker media. Thus, I know Jay. Jay seemed like an awesome dude because he is a nice guy and was awesome his job." Of course, we all know that being adept at a job and being a nice guy does not preclude someone from engaging in dishonest activities. (If anything, it probably aids them – they become that person you least suspect.)

Anyway, count me among those who are very, very disappointed to hear about this.

Last edited by Wilbury Twist; 01-09-2014 at 06:44 PM. Reason: Added PSUMike's quote.
01-09-2014 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PSUMike1999
Right but using a chopstick device to pull money out of a toke box in an environment with cameras everywhere?????? Sounds less like desperation and more like a planned and calculated plan of theft.
Acting out of desperation and calculating your scheme are not mutually exclusive ideas.

If the allegations are true, I would guess the root motivation was desperation which led to a breakdown in logic and morality.

Of course (if the allegations prove true) it's possible that he likes to methodically steal from dealers for fun and profit, but the evidence so far (chopsticks?) and his longevity on the poker circuit make that scenario unlikely.

I don't know Jay well enough to say anything definitive about his character or personality, but it's entirely possible (if the allegations are true) that he is both a "good guy" who also "did something unforgivable." Cognitive dissonance is a bitch!
01-09-2014 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by shaniac
Acting out of desperation and calculating your scheme are not mutually exclusive ideas.

If the allegations are true, I would guess the root motivation was desperation which led to a breakdown in logic and morality.

Of course (if the allegations prove true) it's possible that he likes to methodically steal from dealers for fun and profit, but the evidence so far (chopsticks?) and his longevity on the poker circuit make that scenario unlikely.

I don't know Jay well enough to say anything about his character or personality, but it's entirely possible (if the allegations are true) that he is both a "good guy" who also "did something unforgivable." Cognitive dissonance is a bitch!
Ha ha, nice!!!
01-09-2014 , 07:53 PM
Nobody finds the idea of a sticky tape chopstick device mildly amusing? I guess i am separated enough to be amused
01-09-2014 , 08:27 PM
Just so many shady and scummy people involved with poker and gambling. Nothing new here. Move along.
01-09-2014 , 08:34 PM
Photoshop anyone??
01-09-2014 , 08:38 PM
I wonder if he stole the chopsticks from noodle bar as well??
01-09-2014 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Booter Lazy
Poker. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Lawyers, bankers, used car salesmen, retail workers, politicians, mechanics, bartenders, bouncers, cops, prison guards, stock brokers...

People are people. And people from all walks of life are going to so all sorts of shady **** if they think they can get away with it or if their back is against the wall.

The thing that makes poker stand out is that it's gotten increasingly tougher to make money and there are a ton of people just barely hanging on. A lawyer that's nearly broke is pretty damn likely to pad his hours or outright steal money from client accounts. A mechanic whose repair shop is struggling is pretty likely to try charge people for a bunch of unessesarry repairs. A cop who is paying alimony and child support to 2 ex-wives is pretty likely to pocket some cash that is getting seized when the opportunity presents itself. There's a very small percentage of people out there that are scrupulously honest. There's another very small percentage of people that are looking for any and all opportunities to cheat/steal. For the vast majority, it's all just a matter of circumstances.
01-09-2014 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Adebisi
Lawyers, bankers, used car salesmen, retail workers, politicians, mechanics, bartenders, bouncers, cops, prison guards, stock brokers...

People are people. And people from all walks of life are going to so all sorts of shady **** if they think they can get away with it or if their back is against the wall.

The thing that makes poker stand out is that it's gotten increasingly tougher to make money and there are a ton of people just barely hanging on. A lawyer that's nearly broke is pretty damn likely to pad his hours or outright steal money from client accounts. A mechanic whose repair shop is struggling is pretty likely to try charge people for a bunch of unessesarry repairs. A cop who is paying alimony and child support to 2 ex-wives is pretty likely to pocket some cash that is getting seized when the opportunity presents itself. There's a very small percentage of people out there that are scrupulously honest. There's another very small percentage of people that are looking for any and all opportunities to cheat/steal. For the vast majority, it's all just a matter of circumstances.
You sir win the fool award of the thread. Congrats
01-09-2014 , 09:37 PM
So funny, chopstix with duct tape is pretty good idea. Where are the boxes left unattended where can stick the chopstix in? otherwise he's have to be a ninja and just do it real quick when the dealer doesn't see.
01-09-2014 , 10:05 PM
I guess he took " chopping the pot " way too literally
01-09-2014 , 10:11 PM
Not sure whats more annoying itt, the whole "poker players are scum, no surprise here" or the "omg but hes such a friendly guy, this must be all made up".
The most dangerous scammers, and the most successful, are the ones with charisma.
I dont know Jay at all, and realize that hes very well-liked and all, but this isnt the most shocking thing ever-- its not like poker media reporters are swimming in money. Assuming he did this on multiple occasions, lets not forget that kleptomania is a serious issue for some people, leading to seemingly stupid actions like using chopsticks to fish out cash from tip jars in casinos full of cameras.
01-09-2014 , 10:19 PM
I'm so sick of 'poker players are scum' posts. I have made a lot of friends all over the world (I've lived in at least 8 countries) both inside and outside of poker, some of the poker players being fairly well known in the poker world and others (most) unknowns; the vast, vast majority of my poker friends are excellent people who have lived up to the trust I have placed in them repeatedly.

I lived in Kosovo during the period leading up to the bombing/Serbian invasion doing refugee work. While I was there, all of the news that came out of there that was seen by friends living in the US or elsewhere (outside of Kosovo) was of violence, deaths, and the like. When i spoke to people who didn't live there, they frequently asked how I could handle all the violence and wasn't i worried about getting injured or killed. I repeatedly had to explain that their view was through a filter--the media--and all the media reported was the bad stuff. Living there, I felt just fine walking the streets of Prishtina or driving to different towns/cities. You never heard anything about the quiet days or the good deeds people did there because that's not news. It was the same when i lived in El Salvador during the civil war there. My point? Poker player pays off a loan, does something nice, or lives up to trust placed in him is rarely going to be worthy of a thread whereas poker player steals/leaves large debt unpaid/runs out on staking agreement in heavy makeup will be. This is a huge and very effective filter, but a lot of people just don't seem to get this.

I will say this, no joke: I've known many of both, and I would trust a random poker player far more than a random UN employee any day of the week.
01-09-2014 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Adebisi
Lawyers, bankers, used car salesmen, retail workers, politicians, mechanics, bartenders, bouncers, cops, prison guards, stock brokers...

People are people. And people from all walks of life are going to so all sorts of shady **** if they think they can get away with it or if their back is against the wall.

The thing that makes poker stand out is that it's gotten increasingly tougher to make money and there are a ton of people just barely hanging on. A lawyer that's nearly broke is pretty damn likely to pad his hours or outright steal money from client accounts. A mechanic whose repair shop is struggling is pretty likely to try charge people for a bunch of unessesarry repairs. A cop who is paying alimony and child support to 2 ex-wives is pretty likely to pocket some cash that is getting seized when the opportunity presents itself. There's a very small percentage of people out there that are scrupulously honest. There's another very small percentage of people that are looking for any and all opportunities to cheat/steal. For the vast majority, it's all just a matter of circumstances.
This is an excellent post. Read it just after posting what I posted above. A+.
01-09-2014 , 10:41 PM
no proof yet ITT
innocent til proven guilty
01-09-2014 , 10:58 PM
In before Matt Savage announces new TDA rule banning chopsticks at final tables and Daniel Negreanu posting a rant about it.
01-09-2014 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by shaniac
I don't know Jay well enough to say anything definitive about his character or personality, but it's entirely possible (if the allegations are true) that he is both a "good guy" who also "did something unforgivable." Cognitive dissonance is a bitch!
I want to make this sentence into a T-shirt.

      
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