no because he didn't slander him and there'd be no way to prove or quantify that as a loss of income.

Well, slander is to make false and damaging statements about someone - . oral defamation, in which someone tells one or more persons an untruth about another which untruth will harm the reputation of the person defamed. Slander is a civil wrong (tort) and can be the basis for a lawsuit. Damages (payoff for worth) for slander may be limited to actual (special) damages unless there is malicious intent, since such damages are usually difficult to specify and harder to prove. Some statements such as an untrue accusation of having committed a crime, having a loathsome disease, or being unable to perform one's occupation are treated as slander per se since the harm and malice are obvious, and therefore usually result in general and even punitive damage recovery by the person harmed. So if there is no actual proof of the cheating, the accusation appears slanderous. Damages would be another question, as the loss of earnings would be hard to quantify.

Though still no rush by Fernando to play a range of players live. He's probably too busy reading online revelations about Mrs Mercier.

live pros gonna live pro. Really is shameful

on your bike jason, on your bike

"I think washing the balance would be fair..."

"I think washing the balance would be fair..."

"I think washing the balance would be fair..."

"I think washing the balance would be fair..."

"I think washing the balance would be fair..."

"I think washing the balance would be fair..."


Doesn't that say it all really? There was no accusation of cheating at that point - she's talking about fairness, and brings up some BS reason about him offering discounts to others.

Just a plain, nasty angle to try and get out of a debt.

Yeah its truly unfortunate it will never be as legit as certain sports I grew up watching, such as Major League Baseball, America's national past time.

Weird how a massive drama bomb gets dropped and like ten people noticed

i noticed, i just wasn't the least bit surprised. perhaps others had the same read as me?

I have been following along the entire time and noticed, but I'm a nobody.

rename thread to natasha barbour is a liar and an angle shooter

yup, i actually remembered that first thread about her that got deleted.

i think plenty of ppl knew this might be the case, but we were drowned out by everyone defending jason bc they saw him on tv one time and that means he can't possibly be in the wrong

Thanks for posting that Dr, it certainly calls her character into question.

I wonder how much JM is down lifetime paying for her poker excursions, let alone extravagant lifestyle.

bout three fiddy

Wow Jaclyn and Fernando.
You get angry when you get ignored and you go this far? Didn't you think for one second...that maybe texting me after our pregnancy announcement and our gender reveal night was probably not the right time for us to be dealing with you...AGAIN.
I did read it and i started writing an answer to you. I wasn't ignoring you.
I just needed time to answer your massive text just like you probably took time to write it. But whatever here we are.
I don't care that you post that i tried to get a discount from you at PCA. I obviously thought you were cheating. You were walking around left and right offering people 50% discount and wearing an OFC addict shirt. Nobody had seen you before in poker. And I felt like for sure you cheated me. I decided to play you live before paying you to make sure it was the same person i was playing on the app. YOU REFUSED to play live at the beginning and I decided you wouldn't get paid before playing me live. After WATCHING my games (for hours) against other players playing live you finally decided to accept to play me.

Why don't you post these convos on the thread instead? The ones of me asking to play live and you being like: “Nah”.
You won a large amount of points in a short period of time on the app… Then i look at your games and you're crushing EVERY PERSON on there. Isn't that why you posted this thread? Cause we thought you were using a program etc...?
Then again, you want to know why i let it go....and never posted about it first?
Because if you were actually using a program like i was 100% sure you were after playing our first live session...would it be considered cheating or not?
So after debating this with a bunch of known players, i decided that i had no proof and that if you were using a bot or whatever program you created it still wouldn't technically be cheating but just getting help.
I still decided to never play you on app again.
So the convos you posted are just more proof that i thought you were cheating for sure.

I do have to address more BS Jacklyn posted:
1) i didn’t shuffle enough while i was going to LAND live? LOL Jacklyn were you there to write that?
We were shuffling back and forth and CUTTING every hand. Please stop with the BS.
2) I crushed him only in games he didn’t know? another LOL
most of my games with Fernando live were us playing HI HI HI which is the regular OFC version. Please get your facts straight before coming at me with BS.
3) scoring errors in my favor??? lol if i was making intentional scoring errors (which I wasn’t) , he wouldn’t even know- he couldn’t count at the bahamas. I had to tell him every hand what the score was cuz he had no clue. This was another reason it was clear to me something wasn’t right.

Also, i m going to address "the people you talked to" that i slowpayed in my life.
The truth is, at some points in my life, i might have taken a bit more time to pay 2 or 3 people due to rough times or due to waiting to get paid from other players like a lot of people and there's nothing wrong with being honest about it. When you do find someone that i haven't paid tho, please bring him forward cause you simply won't find that.
Also, Jason's never PAID my debt. The fact that people even think or write that is so outrageous. I've been playing poker for 10 years. I have my own money and bankroll and i never needed him to pay for my "debts".
Jaclyn, since you took the time to write this post for him.
Why don't we chat here since you clearly lost my number?
Let's go with how we were playing a while back...we broke even and quit the game and you opened up to me about having no money and living at i don't know which friend's house?
This was during your PNIA issues if i recall?
I mean i didn't want to go there but you're making me.
I don't know how you went from literally playing tiny on the app, and having no money (and if i need to find the texts of you saying that on my old phone i will eventually), to playing 50's and destroying the world on the app right after meeting Fernando?
This whole thing is SHADY to say the least.
The fact that you two decided to post about it instead of confronting us first anyway shows the level of intelligence you two have combined: WHAT exactly is a good outcome from you having this thread?
A) people stiff you cause there's allegations of you cheating
B) people think you are the best and you get no action ever again.
So how did two people so smart that crush the world on the app and make infinite videos decide that posting this thread would be good for them in any way possible?

Fernando i had started typing a message to you that night. It was saved in my notes but i was waiting for Jason to review it before i answer you since you post everything publicly.
I actually just sent you a picture of the note i wrote on thursday which is the day you wrote me. But Had no time to fix it and review it since.

In my note, i do say: WE DONT MIND playing either of you live. But we re not gone set up a game thats gonna take days to prove a point that can't be proven in a short live session. So why don't we stop with all the offers to play (on your terms)?
I'd always play either of you live. and if you upped your stake and find Jason in Bobby's room he ll happily play you too.
We don't think that your 5 min mathematical video (however long that took u to make) proves anything… when we played at PCA 2016, you were terrible- bottom line, you had no clue what you were doing. I’m sure You have gotten better for sure. Everyone does after years. So please don't act like you're suddenly this mathematics wizard...when really the resume that was posted on this thread about you was all about you being a COMPUTER wizard.
This is literally my last answer to both of you.

I'm honestly sorry if you didn't cheat and you're just two wizards who found each other at the right time.
I would play you anytime in Vegas like usual on my tourney breaks etc either of you.
Jason would play you too if you played the Bobby's room stakes.
Also,
With your two brains combined: Jacklyn, i've played you and we broke even way back right?
I also invited you to my wedding and actually liked you and we chatted a ton?
So why do you think that the rumor of YOU cheating would come from me? You never won money from me, you've never even played Jason. SO do you think it's possible that the people you were playing were convinced you were cheating and that they happen to be in close association with Jason (since you started playing High stakes players?) and that they all were really suspicious of your app play?
Just think about that for a second and maybe ask all the people you crushed if they felt cheated...and maybe you'll get to the bottom of that rumor.

All Jason or I ever did was warn people (only when they asked) saying that we personally wouldn’t play you and that you seem to be beating basically everyone

I think Fernando looked really creepy in the video, and I told all my friends to keep their kids away from him.

uhhh

Some light reading for Natasha.

thats a preggo lady´s incoherent rambling folks or well, maybe just the random paragraphs and enter hitting and all those ****ing dots make it look like that.

this natasha Mercier sounds lunatic in her post

She be cray cray
How dare mere mortals taint her GENDER REVEAL NIGHT!!!!!

Holy wall of text. But this part seems pretty damning and Jaclyn will have some explaining to do, and Natasha will have to provide further proof that the doctor was indeed busto. How does she go from busto to challenging people for 50/pt after meeting Fernando?

Is Fernando a really good coach? Was he playing for her on the app? Or were they really cheating and smearing Natasha's character is now a diversion tactic?

Ok then, not your debt. Just your extravagant lifestyle of flying all over the world, staying in the nicest hotels, and playing poker tournaments way out of your bankroll. All of which makes it far easier to pay your debts I'm sure... when you're not trying to negotiate your way out of them with no just cause, that is.

Grab a towel JBoss becasue you are dripping with irony.

lol