lol yeah

that and "peak would be in the 40's with perfect air, diet, ect."

So did the whole thing about humans only using 10 percent of their brains.

My fave is the claim that sure, she's won 9 worlds, 2 olympic events, and a stack of medals - but she's not an elite athlete because she's not tall enough.

Christine Sinclair just won a gold medal today for Canada at the age of 38. If she had listened to you she would have retired 15 years ago. I don't understand why you don't get it and are so ageist.

So you don't think J.Koon could out-run an extremely short single mom in her thirties? She went a 10.7

He certainly cannot outrun that specific mom in her thirties. He likely can outrun other random moms in their thirties. You probably cannot, regardless of their height.

All the best.

"Can Jason Koon outrun a random mom?" is a show I would watch

She's gone from a top ~10 player in the world 10 years ago to barely a starter on this Canadian team.

this isn't gonna happen seems like attention seeking

She is the captain of this gold medal winning squad at almost 40. Did you see the penalty she drew for Team Canada? She played it immaculately, one of the best from any Canadian player I've seen, man or woman of any age.

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I did not read entire thread - did the bet require starting from blocks?


I ask because after watching 4x110 relays, it seems running starts cut time by about a second.

I always assumed so, that would be a hell of an angle though lol

She's still world class and she's an impact player. She drew the foul that led to the tying goal.

You’re both saying the same thing. Unless you’re claiming she’s the same player today that she was between 2010-16 when she was in the top 10 of FIFA Women’s Player of the Year voting 4 or 5 times.

The point I was making mentioning my experience with my own physicality is that IMO being 35 is not a huge barrier to training up and performing well athletically if one has maintained good physical condition throughout ones life. By good physical condition I don't mean peak trained form, I just mean if someone stayed in decent shape and did not subject oneself to any outlandish abuse.

Also, as far as making bets with professional gamblers goes, this:

Yes you are correct essentially but I would go so far to say as she (Sinclair) is at the peak of her powers now leading Team Canada to her first gold medal.

Lets not forget Brett Hayden, the other Canadian 38 year old who smashed his PB and led Canada in the 4by100 relay with a record time, cracking 48 seconds in the lead off leg and smashing 20 somethings all across Canada in the trials.

That is why one might say it is quite foolish to think J.Koon, if he really applied himself, couldn't best the times he achieved as a scrawny College kid at the 100m.

Alrighty, I think we can be done with the trolling now. Thank you.

He is not a troll. This is a pointless thing to troll. Plenty of people are genuinely this clueless. In BFI there are two derps arguing with each other whether Covid started in 2017-8 or in 2002 (both being serious).



If he is going to do that, after not properly training for a long time (unlike the world class athletes who have been training their entire adult lives) then he better have a solid 1980s style montage playing as his soundtrack to help him get impossible progress in a quick period of time.

Shame the bet will never happen - seems like there would be some people who at least talk about supporting the losing side. Whether they would put actual money up is of course something different.

then why is Brady a complete freak?
and why does he have to eat a completely absurd diet and go to sleep at like 8pm to be able to do what he's doing when he didn't have to at 25?

lmao@ physically peaking in your 40s.

Brady a freak huh? and Randy Couture too who was heavy weight champion in the UFC at age 43? There are other countless examples but I am getting tired of the naysayers who think life ends at 22.

I see where you are coming from but you should expand your mind to the counter argument.

Its not troll, Brady(observing healthy habits) fits in nicely with my thesis that under optimal conditions humans could *theoretically* peak in the early 40s. Brady taps into a mere fraction of what is capable.

I think you're reading too much into the word "freak," maybe taking offense to it where none is intended. Substitute "freak" with "anomaly" or "exceptional case," and maybe you'll feel better.

No, it's not unusual that someone who is arguably the GOAT and who is doing unprecedented feats might be referred to as a freak.

And no, no one is saying life ends at 22. They're just saying that even reasonably high-level physical performance becomes less likely as a male adult gets into his 30s, and even less likely when they reach their 40s. No thinking human being is saying no one can do it or has done it, they're just saying it gets increasing rare when anyone – whether a previous top athlete or a basement dweller – advances in age.

Funny that this would need to be explained in what is ultimately a poker community, a place where far more people understand probabilities. Yes, sometimes long shots come through and things occasionally happen well against the odds. (Of course, this is also the reason why I agree that Koon's chances are no 0. They're just low.)

yes please give me countless examples of all of the other elite nfl qbs at 43 years old

and as the poster above me said I clearly wasn't using the term freak as a bad thing.

Can we drop Tom Brady from the peak physical athlete solution set? The guy gallops about as slow as you can and looks visibly labored after he does ... he wins because he is extremely experienced and has done nothing but live and breathe football for the last 30+ years ... he is also surrounded by an enormous offensive line and the most expensive receiving core in the NFL ... it's like saying Roger Federer is a top athlete still ... he's the most skillful and practiced tennis player of the last decade so his accuracy and shot selection keep him relevant at the top of the tour, but there aren't many inside the top 100 who he could beat in a sprint ...

sports contain a myriad of ways to compete and solve the formula that will grant success and victory ... sprinting does not ... it is a shame that Koon will not attempt this, because there would actually be some interest level in him attempting it ... our minds play the "what if" game all day long but actually getting to see an answer is why we love sport and competition

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