yeah, let's compare Jason Koon with Justin Gatlin

If anything you can use Gatlin as an example for the drop off in performance in his mid 30s. Guy ran a 9.74 at age 33 and now can barely crack 10.00 even though he should be nearing his peak at age 39.

madlex makes a good point but Gaitlin was dealing with injuries this past year (we all agree here all bets are off on the dicussion if its an injury situation)

Gaitlin suffered the most from the Covid delay in the Olympics, had the games not been delayed an extra year there was speculation he would be the first 38 year old to win the gold medal in the 100m. Heck, his masters time from age 37 would have won him the bronze in this year's Tokyo games.

Re: J.Koon, do we know how serious he was in college sports? Was he losing sleep at night playing poker, frat parties, late night studying, chasing girls, eating bad residence food or whatever? Maybe he was actually capable of more than a 10.9 back then.

In any case, if he were to pull it off he would have to focus on his start no doubt, races are won and lost here and he would have to execute, like Gaitlin, the drive phase of the race to perfection. Gaitlin likely has more fast twitch fibers but with an excellent start Koon would have a shot at it if he were serious but no doubt he is losing time as every day passes.

I'm reading Maria Konnikova's book about poker and she says Koon looks like he just ran a triathlon, so obviously he can do this.

he can do it but time is running out. It would take him 2-3 years of intense training and by that time he'd be pushing 40. But even at 40 he can do it if we look at what Olivier Busquet achieved in the octagon by demolishing the young Mexican stud when Liv was 40 and ripped.

I’m a fat bastard on the wrong side of 40 currently eating cookies on the couch while rewatching a Marvel movie I’ve already seen 5 times, and I’m closer to Jason Koon in athletic prowess than Jason Koon is to 95% of the athletic freaks of nature mentioned ITT.

What does that have to do with Koon’s ability to complete this challenge? Not a goddamn thing.

Just like pretty much every argument/comparison ITT.

yeah, obviously, because he kind of looks fit

Phil Hellmuth could run faster than Jason Koon .........

That was the point of the example. I am saying a drop of .1 or .2 s is not as major as people are making it out to be. I don’t know what j koons pb was but I’m pretty sure he was physically capable of 10.7 at peak performance and if he wasn’t he could probably improve his training/technique for this bet.

People don’t really realize how different 10.9 is from competitive times for his counterparts either. There could be 1 in a billion capable of sub 9.8 but the physical limitations of a non competitive time like 10.9 falls off exponentially as you deviate from 9.8 so 10.9 isn’t really that restrictive. When u compete you kinda see this more it was like in highschool maybe 1 person in the nation was able to break a time but thered be a group of 5-10 kids .1-.2s behind and like 500-1000 kids .2-.5s behind and a full second behind wasn’t even worth talking about they’d compete in a different event if they wanted to be competitive and if they trained it wasn’t intense it was more casual so they didn’t ever obtain their true potential anyways.

Just an unreal amount of lol here - those people did well in later years but their physical skills all diminished- all of these QBs you are so proud of were slower and had less arm strength in their mid and late 30s, and some of them very much so. Koon is running 100m not engaging in a team sport where experience and good teammates can assist. You are making some of the worst arguments in this thread Ive ever seen, please stop posting.

I wouldn't bother taking madlex seriously, he is a lost cause, he probably was the same bloke who thought Olivier was on roids when he was 40 years old and demolished his young opponent in that MMA fight when he was 100% natural and acknowledged at 40 he was in the best condition ever of his life. Also yes you are correct, we don't know what Koon was truly capable of in those college meets, what he could have achieved with an ideal diet, rest sleep patterns, optimized training etc... dorm rooms, parties and cafeteria food isn't exactly optimal. I don't see why he couldn't be capable of a 10.7 if a 35 year old woman a year off giving birth to twins and who is 4foot11 can run that.

Or maybe you’re a troll and I am a 40 year old who has been running, cycling and (way too little) swimming for >500 hours/year for several years. Who knows?

A collegiate sprinter who barely broke 11 seconds has more or less nothing athletically in common with one of the greatest female sprinters of all time. He is an ordinary Joe and she is a one in a million physiological anomaly.

Of course anyone with half a brain would realize it doesn't matter if she is 2 feet tall and gave birth to a small herd of elephants last week, in track all that matters is the time on the clock.

That's not to say he definitely couldn't do it btw, it's just the reasoning in the Shelly Ann Fraser comparison is asinine.

I hear ya brother, she is definitely a genetic anomaly. But c'mon man please, do you realize Koon is nearly 6 foot in height, that is over a foot advantage he has over her. Her height is so short it falls as a median height for children ages 10-11. And some here think Koon couldn't defeat her? Incredible.

Shame you were not able to coach Andre the Giant, as he would be able to waltz to a gold with your teachings.

All the best.

Andre the Giant would have no chance against Robert Wadlow.

I'd say he runs pretty good - - a recent Triton win for $663k and is closing in on $45,000,000 in lifetime cashes.

i reckon koon should bet on himself to run 100m backwards in 8 seconds. that would be a easy win for koon.

It comes back to interest level with these prop bets. I don't really care if he can train for several months and complete some track feat. With athletic endeavors like races and stuff I prefer if the person floating the bet has some level of uncertainty, or is not an expert in the field. Betting on or against someone's niche talent is just paying them to do work. For the person betting against, it's appealing to profit off someone lazy or braggadocios, but for the spectators (NVG) I don't think this has much appeal past the discussion.

When I saw this thread get bumped, I thought maybe something happened. But noooooo.

Also:

Pretty sure no one runs better than Koon

If he is in fact french I'd like his chances.