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Jared Huggins DENIED by PokerStars Big Game (w/ Negreanu staking offer) Jared Huggins DENIED by PokerStars Big Game (w/ Negreanu staking offer)

01-29-2011 , 08:11 PM
All it would take would be a few high-volume players to stage a sit-out on stars to get their point across. Many regs generate over $100k/year in rake, and some well, well over that.

So, if you play on Stars and care enough to send a message, even a dozen players sitting out a week or two (or more) can cost them far more than the $100k Jared would have been staked.

And who knows, in your absence you may just find a different site you like better.

I mean, the point of the big game is to get people top play on their site. By ignoring what we want (unless they provide a logical reason), we can strike them the only place they feel it.

And it really doesn't take that many people. Just think about how much rake you generate for them...and see if they think you are worth listening to.
01-29-2011 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Boiler_bd
So sick, they'll probably put some bimbo who plays poker twice a year with a sugar daddy in his place.
no, Vanessa Rousso was on the show last season
01-29-2011 , 08:12 PM
Spoiler:
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01-29-2011 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Negreanu
Just saw this and am absolutely shocked. I have no idea why he wasn't chosen. I know that FOX investigates contestants backgrounds, looking for any criminal past, etc. but I've got no clue why they wouldn't pick him. Sorry to all those that supported Jared, I was one of them.
Daniel, you say you don't know so you just drop the possibility that he can't pass a criminal background check? That's completely irresponsible. Won't be long for people to begin speculating what felony conviction he has.
01-29-2011 , 08:15 PM
nobody is going to boycott stars...u guys wont even stop playing you ub
01-29-2011 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by King Fish
All it would take would be a few high-volume players to stage a sit-out on stars to get their point across. Many regs generate over $100k/year in rake, and some well, well over that.

So, if you play on Stars and care enough to send a message, even a dozen players sitting out a week or two (or more) can cost them far more than the $100k Jared would have been staked.

And who knows, in your absence you may just find a different site you like better.

I mean, the point of the big game is to get people top play on their site. By ignoring what we want (unless they provide a logical reason), we can strike them the only place they feel it.

And it really doesn't take that many people. Just think about how much rake you generate for them...and see if they think you are worth listening to.
notsureifserious.jpg

I mean, people are not willing to do that to reduce the rake and you think they'll do it for jared ****oing higgins?

eloel.

Last edited by The Furor; 01-29-2011 at 08:17 PM. Reason: and lol at asking SNE to stop grinding ducy?
01-29-2011 , 08:18 PM
Well Jared has been pretty honest about his past - maybe that's the part Stars or Fox don't like. When you think about it this positive story could be twisted into something negative very fast.
01-29-2011 , 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Fish
All it would take would be a few high-volume players to stage a sit-out on stars to get their point across. Many regs generate over $100k/year in rake, and some well, well over that.

So, if you play on Stars and care enough to send a message, even a dozen players sitting out a week or two (or more) can cost them far more than the $100k Jared would have been staked.

And who knows, in your absence you may just find a different site you like better.

I mean, the point of the big game is to get people top play on their site. By ignoring what we want (unless they provide a logical reason), we can strike them the only place they feel it.

And it really doesn't take that many people. Just think about how much rake you generate for them...and see if they think you are worth listening to.
I'm not sure the community should start trying to force 'Stars into doing anything as I am sure they will stand their ground to make a point.

And maybe there are other issues involved that we don't know about.

But if they did just make a bad decision hopefully they will realise this, admit they made a mistake and put Jared in the big game.

It's not the end of the world though, Jared seems like he's in a good place now and hopefully he takes advantage of all the training he's been doing and pwns some pokers.
01-29-2011 , 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bwana devil
Daniel, you say you don't know so you just drop the possibility that he can't pass a criminal background check? That's completely irresponsible. Won't be long for people to begin speculating what felony conviction he has.
+1

funny post by DN

"I don't know why he isn't allowed on. I know we don't allow child molesters on the show, etc... but I don't know why he wasn't allowed."

obv he didn't intend any harm by it, just pretty lol
01-29-2011 , 08:22 PM
I am extrememly surprised by this. I could maybe understand if Stars had found one or two candidates that they prefer, but to find a whole Series worth?

They have really messed up with this decision.
01-29-2011 , 08:22 PM
Pretty bad decision in every way. He has easily the most interesting story out of anyone they had last season or will have this season, regardless of what you think of him.
01-29-2011 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AnoDonk
I really wish FTP gives him the online pro deal.. $35/hour + 100% rakeback. Costs FTP next to nothing and gives them good karma and publicity. Would also be a nice little payback for Stars getting Isildur1.
MAKE IT HAPPEN FTP!
01-29-2011 , 08:26 PM
PS is a business. Bottom line.

They reserve the right to do what they did, but they will also reap the PR consequences. Could be interesting. Could not. Happens all the time.

Anyway, gl to Jared in his future endeavors.
01-29-2011 , 08:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Fish
All it would take would be a few high-volume players to stage a sit-out on stars to get their point across. Many regs generate over $100k/year in rake, and some well, well over that.

So, if you play on Stars and care enough to send a message, even a dozen players sitting out a week or two (or more) can cost them far more than the $100k Jared would have been staked.

And who knows, in your absence you may just find a different site you like better.

I mean, the point of the big game is to get people top play on their site. By ignoring what we want (unless they provide a logical reason), we can strike them the only place they feel it.

And it really doesn't take that many people. Just think about how much rake you generate for them...and see if they think you are worth listening to.
( ) Stars ever reversing their decision under pressure from 2+2 minority
( ) Pro 2+2ers ever staging sit-out at Stars over this
01-29-2011 , 08:34 PM
Thank you for your great contribution to this thread stevdoro.
01-29-2011 , 08:41 PM
shame.
01-29-2011 , 08:51 PM
Still believe the good faith effort of the many involved were rewarded in the end. JH is better off for the support and hand-up than if he were to have been ignored and flamed in OP. Things happen for a reason and oftentimes work out better in the end anyhow.

gl to you Jared and continued successes to you my friend.
01-29-2011 , 08:51 PM
Might be a reason why pokertstars didnt let him join the game. People just randomly say stars is chit without knowing some explanation behind their decision. Might be a clear reason why he wasnt picked for this, people are narrowminded. I didnt like the decision myself either, but hey gotta wait for some explaination before bashing imo.
01-29-2011 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Negreanu
Just saw this and am absolutely shocked. I have no idea why he wasn't chosen. I know that FOX investigates contestants backgrounds, looking for any criminal past, etc. but I've got no clue why they wouldn't pick him. Sorry to all those that supported Jared, I was one of them.
Would begging for chips in the chatbox during the qualifiers be a disqualifying factor?
01-29-2011 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gorgeouss
seriously?

just in case you are, the 2+2 community worth easily over 20m$ a year for stars, probably way way more.

assume we have a standard stars supernova (me), lets say 200kvpp?
thats ~37k$ in rake per year, gets around 40% rakeback, so lets say 22k per year.
5 200k supernovas are worth 100k.
50 are 1m.

in the internet poker thread alone, there are like 30 SNEs.
feel in the blanks.

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as for the dropped ball, it's quite the ball.
leaving the person and his story aside, just from a PR standpoint, what better portrays the poker community than this?

who's the ****** here, exactly, and who's giving him a Bill Lumbergh?
lol notsureifserious.jpg

If you are though, think about your math, your #s,what you're suggesting, and the reality, then try again.

also, lol @ people thinking PS doesn't know what they're doing and didn't realize how big a letdown this would be but did it anyway. They're not level 1 thinkers over there where it's simply "Hey, this jared guy has a lot of people who want to see him get on the show, we gotta put him on". It's a bit more sophisticated than that.
01-29-2011 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by alwaysdegen
but hey gotta wait for some explaination before bashing imo.
Yea - make sure you bump this thread when you've gotten that explanation...
01-29-2011 , 09:02 PM
I guess its standard for people to judge other people/companies etc without listening to their part of the story.
01-29-2011 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MinusEV
Yea - make sure you bump this thread when you've gotten that explanation...
Well make sure you keep judging people/companies in the future without listening to their part of the story dude. Thats really clever! Your judgement is based on one side of the issue, so you assume that stars is bad without having facts, solid imo. Even if you didnt like the decision, at least make sure you have some facts behind or wait for some official explaination dude.

Last edited by alwaysdegen; 01-29-2011 at 09:10 PM.
01-29-2011 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by alwaysdegen
I guess its standard for people to judge other people/companies etc without listening to their part of the story.
Again - where do you find this story? Or the people/company willing to share it?
01-29-2011 , 09:09 PM
Jared show would have had the highest ratings. All the 2+2er's that wanted him would have watched & all those negative haters would have been right there watching it too.

Stars should remove the whole voting system, since it is now deemed pointless.

      
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