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"when you see me on my poker account, thats when you know its me..."

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...beware-665197/

Also: TheItalienStyle down quite a bit it seems...hopefully all the talk that Blom90 is Isildur1 is not true :S

01-01-2010 , 10:37 PM

#52

handbag86

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,557

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiegoSanchez

"when you see me on my poker account, thats when you know its me..."

Yea but would he be playing 50/100 with brian hastings? (i don't know what he usually plays ??? )

01-01-2010 , 10:46 PM

#53

DiegoSanchez

enthusiast

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 98

annnd TheItalienStyle is busto.......

01-01-2010 , 11:06 PM

#54

goncalostar

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,372

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben wb

I'd say isildur's English was generally better than yours tbh. isildur and theitalienstyle's chat is very similar.

Yhea, i know that...maybe because i'm not isildur...

01-02-2010 , 01:06 AM

#55

drnkyourmlkshk

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 499

Browndogg plays much higher than 50-100 at times and is easily the nicest guy to ever play nosebleeds. He's a helluva player as well, very surprised FTP hasn't signed him.
Good tourney player, plays the highest stakes at time and won the 25k hu championship this year... just my 2 cents

01-02-2010 , 01:14 AM

#56

Tony Eusebio

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 531

Quote:

Originally Posted by F ******

How can you beat PA at 200/400 PLO and lose to everyone else at 500/1000? Isn't PA like the best PLO player?

durrr is just a plo fish, plain and simple

01-02-2010 , 01:42 AM

#57

Stoichkov130

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 538

Interesting that there is no OMGclayaiken or urindanger on that list,

both are break-even for 2009.

01-02-2010 , 02:03 AM

#58

jinzerd

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,875

ivey and antonius on top completely dominating thats pretty awesome. wasnt antonius down acouple mill too early in the year.

01-02-2010 , 02:27 AM

#59

peterpjames

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Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5,833

eli elezra won money in 2009?

01-02-2010 , 02:44 AM

#60

ekky

banned

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,261

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Eusebio

durrr is just a plo fish, plain and simple

its hard to make that judgement after only 400,000 hands. Do you have any idea of the variance involved in poker? theres only 2 ways we will know if durrrr is a winner in plo:

1) wait til hes played 100 million hands
2) wait til hes ran hot and turned his loss into a profit

01-02-2010 , 03:46 AM

#61

effuluck

banned

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,145

Quote:

Originally Posted by thatpfunk

plo is ****ing nuts

fyp

01-02-2010 , 04:02 AM

#62

Pork Fri Rize

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,410

Since when are random 30k pot PLO hands Postworthy ? no wonder these threads get so f'in big. Should be a rule only post hands of >75k pots IMO

01-02-2010 , 05:53 AM

#63

Jourdain

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Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,796

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterpjames

eli elezra won money in 2009?

You should play him in mixed games.

01-02-2010 , 06:01 AM

#64

F Retard

grinder

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 475

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Eusebio

durrr is just a plo fish, plain and simple

So by doubling the stakes durrrr just becomes more fishy? I'm starting to think he's not the luckbox that some people on this forum make him out to be if he wins the challenge.

Even though most people view the challenge as whatevers It made me respect his PLO game, Antonius just kills everyone else.

Maybe the stakes are so low to PA that he doesn't care about 200/400? Man I don't know, when you are winning 1,000,000 a day I'm sure getting 3 to 1 on 500,000 isn't much to a team full tilt member..maybe that's it...

01-02-2010 , 06:30 AM

#65

Spurious

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Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 18,593

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Eusebio

durrr is just a plo fish, plain and simple

just read every post that bottomset made in this thread...

01-02-2010 , 06:55 AM

#66

fish491

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Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,130

I guess Tonny Eusebio is such a PLO chrusher?

01-02-2010 , 07:09 AM

#67

Tony Eusebio

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 531

sarcasm? look at the piece i quoted

lol @ you people

01-02-2010 , 11:57 AM

#68

Jamie Platinum

Moonwalking

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 7,198

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pork Fri Rize

Since when are random 30k pot PLO hands Postworthy ? no wonder these threads get so f'in big. Should be a rule only post hands of >75k pots IMO

Chill out, brah. The 'rule' is 50bb + and given that 50/100 is consider High Stakes, that entails even $5k pots, though I tend to post 100bb and up and the said hands are 300-1000 big blind hands. Plus when **** is slow, something needs to stir up conversation and a lot of the $30k pots are played with more finesse than the $75k. It's not only about the gambollllllll

01-02-2010 , 12:05 PM

#69

Jamie Platinum

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 7,198

Full Tilt Poker $40/$80 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Volody512345 (BB): $6538.00
variance_LOOL (CO): $18304.00
Himan33 (BTN): $10124.00
Denoking (SB): $23380.50

Pre Flop: ($120.00)
1 fold, Himan33 raises to $240, 1 fold, Volody512345 calls $160

Flop: ($520.00) K

(2 players)
Volody512345 checks, Himan33 bets $420, Volody512345 raises to $1780, Himan33 requests TIME, Himan33 calls $1360

Turn: ($4080.00) 5

(2 players)
Volody512345 bets $4518 all in, Himan33 calls $4518

River: ($13116.00) T

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $13116.00
Volody512345 shows K

(two pair, Kings and Jacks)
Himan33 shows K

(two pair, Kings and Fives)
Volody512345 wins $13114.00
(Rake: $2.00)

Last edited by Jamie Platinum; 01-02-2010 at 12:07 PM. Reason: Another fun but small hand

01-02-2010 , 12:23 PM

#70

ImprovinNewbie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bottomset

jesus you are dense, the point is he's breakeven buyin wise but down money because he's lost at the highest stakes, generally vs the same player base as what he played at 200/400(and he's up 900k vs PA at hu 200/400 for example)

no one is saying that his graph by $$ doesn't look awful, but it looks massively different than the graph by BB

I guess expecting nvgtards like you to understand something that simple is way too much to ask

both his plo and nlhe are within +- 5buyins of 0 aka a 225k breakeven stretch, where he lost at the wrong stakes, I mean if you switch it around and he ran good at 500/1k and lost at 200/400 and was up 4.5M its not like he's massively better, just fortunate to run good at the biggest stakes while in a breakeven BB stretch

bottomset owns

01-02-2010 , 01:07 PM

#71

cpitt398

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Quote:

Originally Posted by drnkyourmlkshk

Hi Andrew

01-02-2010 , 01:11 PM

#72

King_of_NYC

betting he never calls me again

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,383

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie Platinum

Don't acknowledge their crap JS. Your work is amazing and we appreciate you. Even if da pots aren't a gazzillion dollars at the end

01-02-2010 , 03:18 PM

#73

Koshur

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,045

Quote:

Originally Posted by bottomset

doesn't the fact that the sample size at 5/1k is way bigger than the 2/4 sample size make a difference in the analysis? Maybe he is running well in the challenge? Also they were buying in for 80k in the 2/4 challenge so that also changes the numbers. Too many discrepancies anyhow to be conclusive.

01-02-2010 , 04:01 PM

#74

inn_Nstruct

old hand

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,839

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koshur

doesn't the fact that the sample size at 5/1k is way bigger than the 2/4 sample size make a difference in the analysis? Maybe he is running well in the challenge? Also they were buying in for 80k in the 2/4 challenge so that also changes the numbers. Too many discrepancies anyhow to be conclusive.

deep play = more skill involved.

01-02-2010 , 05:01 PM

#75

bottomset

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Koshur

he has a winrate of just under 4BB/100 right now in the challenge, its conceivable but unlikely that his edge(if it exists) is that big

a good chunk of the challenge was played with 100bb stacks, also a lot of 500/1k was very deep, I'm not sure the average effective stacksize for each level but I'd guess it was reasonably similar

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